Tolerance versus Absolute Equality

[jonks]

Originally posted by: darkxshade
It's not a law, it's a rule... and it says no headwear

but can jews wear a yarmulke? if yes, then the rule not allowing muslim headscarves (that don't obscure the face) is discriminatory.

And the difference between a law passed by a legislature and a rule enforced by a judge is irrelevant. A judge's rule is unquestionably governmental action, it doesn't have to be passed by a legislature to violate the 1st amendment.

 

[Oceandevi]

It is a simple law. Why do sexist policies of ancient myths get this amount of credit?

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Oceandevi
It is a simple law. Why do sexist policies of ancient myths get this amount of credit?

What law?

 

[stag3]

ROFL @ cylon

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Perknose
Did you even bother to fully read the second story?

Did you even bother to fully read the thread? My argument has nothing to do with the stories, but people's reactions to them.

Yes, I bothered to read the thread. Did you read my post?

IN YOUR POLL, you ask, "Should the girl have had legal action against her for "selling" halls defense?"

She has had ZERO legal action against her. You state an action that did not happen. If you had actually read the story, you'd know that. Perhaps you'd now like to edit your poll question, which is a myth and incorrect.

How can you possibly conduct a poll about how people feel about something that didn't happen?

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Perknose
How can you possibly conduct a poll about how people feel about something that didn't happen?

Ask the people that feel it.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Perknose
How can you possibly conduct a poll about how people feel about something that didn't happen?

Ask the people that feel it.

Your second poll question is materially incorrect, due to your not bothering to read (or fully comprehend) the story. Apparently, you are smugly ok with perpetuating blatant misinformation, even when it is pointed out to you.

Wow. You seem to have extremely low standards for yourself where accuracy with the truth is concerned. Or are you just too stubborn to admit you made a basic mistake, even when it it blindingly obvious?

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Perknose
Wow. You seem to have extremely low standards for yourself where accuracy with the truth is concerned. Or are you just too stubborn to admit you made a basic mistake, even when it it blindingly obvious?

Only blindingly obvious to assholes like yourself.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Perknose
Wow. You seem to have extremely low standards for yourself where accuracy with the truth is concerned. Or are you just too stubborn to admit you made a basic mistake, even when it it blindingly obvious?

Only blindingly obvious to assholes like yourself.

rant

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Perknose
Wow. You seem to have extremely low standards for yourself where accuracy with the truth is concerned. Or are you just too stubborn to admit you made a basic mistake, even when it it blindingly obvious?

Only blindingly obvious to assholes like yourself.

rant

Keep going, we'll pretend we care what you think.

 

[So]

No and No. The halls are not a drug. Vitamin C isn't medicine, it is a candy with a dietary supplement, and AFAIK, schools haven't made it illegal to sell candy in school.

 

[jonks]

maybe i read it wrong, but having read the story and seeing that no legal action was taken, I understood the poll to be asking "(though no legal action was taken) should there have been legal action taken against her?"

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
1st question: Yes

2nd question: No

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: jonks
maybe i read it wrong, but having read the story and seeing that no legal action was taken, I understood the poll to be asking "(though no legal action was taken) should there have been legal action taken against her?"

Here's the question:

Should the girl have had legal action against her for "selling" halls defense?

If it had said "have had legal action TAKEN against her" or "have (no 'had") been subjected to legal action against her" then yes, but as the question stands, there is only one possible interpretation in English.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: darkxshade

Originally posted by: Mucho
If orthodox Jews can wear their yarmulke in court why can't a Muslim woman wear her scarf?

ohhhh curveball

I asked the same question about a nun in a habit.

read up on both. nuns have different habits they can wear, and ive seen nuns wearing habits with no head cover. my bro got married in a catholic church, he turned catholic a few years ago, our family started as baptist. i talked to a nun there for about 10 minutes before i knew she was a nun. i was expecting the full penguin habit. jews wear their caps for religious ceremonies, along with certain specific locations/ events. court for a speeding ticket is likely not on that list. even then hecedic would likely take it off before going in the courtroom.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: jonks
maybe i read it wrong, but having read the story and seeing that no legal action was taken, I understood the poll to be asking "(though no legal action was taken) should there have been legal action taken against her?"

That probably would be more grammatically correct. The story says several times that the father wanted to know why his daughter was accused, not that she was in any real trouble. But the thread itself is an argument over zero-tolerance policies. Thats why I posted links to the threads, not the stories.

So which did you vote for?

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Perknose
rant

Keep going, we'll pretend we care what you think.

Works for me. :laugh:

Sorry for derailing your thread. My anger was primarily with the media-whore actions of the father of the girl, and the way the media outlet played right along. It got transferred to you. My bad.

You do pose interesting societal questions.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Perknose
Works for me. :laugh:

Sorry for derailing your thread. My anger was primarily with the media-whore actions of the father of the girl, and the way the media outlet played right along. It got transferred to you. My bad.

You do pose interesting societal questions.

:thumbsup:

Yea the article is a mess. I don't know why it was even reported the way it was. I feel bad for the teacher, who most likely was making a light-hearted joke.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist
jews wear their caps for religious ceremonies, along with certain specific locations/ events. court for a speeding ticket is likely not on that list. even then hecedic would likely take it off before going in the courtroom.

don't know many jews do ya

 

[SagaLore]

So far scarf is close to split, but c drops is overwhelmingly no.

What if the father potentially gets in legal trouble, rather than the girl, since he gave them to her to take with her? And they had menthol in them? Would opinions change? Is this more of an age issue?