today's thing I don't understand: being "on time"

[Paul98]

Time doesn't exist. It's just human imagination.
If time did exist, it should be the same everywhere - New Zealand or New York.
Can it be, that some live in the future and some in the past? just think for yourself....
February 29th? Did time got somehow f8cked up?
Anyone born on 2/29 should skip 3 birthdays every 4 "human years"?

Sure time exists, you can measure it, and it isn't the same everywhere. Two clocks can be in sync to one person, and to another person they may not be in sync.

 

[Crono]

Being on time is showing up during the period of time that won't annoy or anger the one(s) whose expectations of "on time" you are trying to meet.

Some workplaces have a tolerance of 5-10 minutes, some more or less than that.

 

[Gintaras]

Two clocks can be in sync to one person, and to another person they may not be in sync.

Tell this to your boss, when you coming late to work...

 

[Gintaras]

Some workplaces have a tolerance of 5-10 minutes, some more or less than that.

Not workplaces have a tolerance, but there are LAWS(I think, state by state) of grace period - when it should be considered late or not late.

If grace period by law is let's say 6 minutes, your boss can not fire you, if you're late by 5 minutes.

 

[GasX]

I am on time if I have everything set up and ready to go and have my first patient in the room at the scheduled start time. For a complicated case that could mean 30 minutes early. If I am the schlub doing colonoscopy sedation, it's 15 minutes and I have time for coffee.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

The one that makes me crazy are the folks who show up early and then stand around bullshitting til 5 minutes after they were supposed to start.

 

[IronWing]

The one that makes me crazy are the folks who show up early and then stand around bullshitting til 5 minutes after they were supposed to start.

I had a project with a Native American tribe. It was excruciating. The meeting was scheduled for 1pm. 1pm comes and goes. Everyone is there by 1:30. Still nothing happens. Around 2:15 people start to settle in at the table and then, through some secret sign or secret consensus, the meeting gets underway around 2:30. There is no rhyme or reason to why the meeting starts when it does. I've tried to detect some type of social prerequisites as to when they decide to start without coming up with anything. This happens at every single meeting. I think they do it to piss off the gringos.

 

[Gintaras]

I had a project with a Native American tribe. It was excruciating. The meeting was scheduled for 1pm. 1pm comes and goes. Everyone is there by 1:30. Still nothing happens. Around 2:15 people start to settle in at the table and then, through some secret sign or secret consensus, the meeting gets underway around 2:30. There is no rhyme or reason to why the meeting starts when it does. I've tried to detect some type of social prerequisites as to when they decide to start without coming up with anything. This happens at every single meeting. I think they do it to piss off the gringos.

Good thing you weren't given a machine gun and sent to Afganistan to support a democracy...

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I had a project with a Native American tribe. It was excruciating. The meeting was scheduled for 1pm. 1pm comes and goes. Everyone is there by 1:30. Still nothing happens. Around 2:15 people start to settle in at the table and then, through some secret sign or secret consensus, the meeting gets underway around 2:30. There is no rhyme or reason to why the meeting starts when it does. I've tried to detect some type of social prerequisites as to when they decide to start without coming up with anything. This happens at every single meeting. I think they do it to piss off the gringos.

You've never heard of Indian time? They don't do it to piss you off, they had legitimate reasons (to them) for being late. You see life, family and, tribal obligations take precedence over 'business.' I appreciate the perspective and wish I could live that way too.

 

[IronWing]

You've never heard of Indian time? They don't do it to piss you off, they had legitimate reasons (to them) for being late. You see life, family and, tribal obligations take precedence over 'business.' I appreciate the perspective and wish I could live that way too.

If we were waiting on someone to show up, that I could understand. Everyone is there, just marking time, until it's time.

 

[Soundmanred]

In the Air Force, they say if you're on time you're late and should arrive 15 minutes early to everything. This gets very annoying when someone giving out a time accounts for 15 minutes early so you end up showing up 30 minutes early instead or even worse if it compounds and multiple people push the start time 15 minutes each time they pass it to the next person.

 

[IronWing]

in the air force, they say if you're on time you're late and should arrive 15 minutes early to everything. This gets very annoying when someone giving out a time accounts for 15 minutes early so you end up showing up 30 minutes early instead or even worse if it compounds and multiple people push the start time 15 minutes each time they pass it to the next person.

y u do this?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

If we were waiting on someone to show up, that I could understand. Everyone is there, just marking time, until it's time.

You're not getting it. To you or me, asking "how are you doing?" is a perfunctory greeting. To an Indian it requires a lengthy discussion of family, children, fishing and work comes dead last. Jumping straight into the crass business of "business" without polite enquiry and reply is downright rude. Never think that just because you're both speaking English means you're speaking the same language.

 

[BoomerD]

Not workplaces have a tolerance, but there are LAWS(I think, state by state) of grace period - when it should be considered late or not late.

If grace period by law is let's say 6 minutes, your boss can not fire you, if you're late by 5 minutes.

While laws vary by state, your boss can fire you for just about any reason...even if he doesn't like your shirt.

The few laws that do cover this would be to cover how you're paid. Your boss might be able to dock your pay if you're more than X minutes late. I've worked places that 10 minutes late = 30 minutes of lost pay...but if you worked 10 minutes over time, you also got an extra 30 minutes @ time and a half.

 

[darkxshade]

You arrive early or late... I think of on time as a means of expressing that you're still on your way but won't be late.

 

[Nebor]

In the Air Force, they say if you're on time you're late and should arrive 15 minutes early to everything. This gets very annoying when someone giving out a time accounts for 15 minutes early so you end up showing up 30 minutes early instead or even worse if it compounds and multiple people push the start time 15 minutes each time they pass it to the next person.

 

[destrekor]

In the Air Force, they say if you're on time you're late and should arrive 15 minutes early to everything. This gets very annoying when someone giving out a time accounts for 15 minutes early so you end up showing up 30 minutes early instead or even worse if it compounds and multiple people push the start time 15 minutes each time they pass it to the next person.

I hate hate HATE every single leader who does this.
(<--- not one of the ones who commits such criminal waste of time)

Arriving "on time" and standing in formations for over an hour before something starts? Especially before the ass crack of dawn? I'm usually thinking up ways to kill every single person involved in the timehacks at that point.

 

[destrekor]

too true :awe:
school environments seem to be the worst. Went through that same exact routine (run in morning) on a few occasions last summer, and each time we twiddled our thumbs for over an hour. ugh

worse is when you still get in trouble for "being late", when, after your scolded (though written reprimand still to be dished out later in the day), you return to formation and stand there, pissed off, for an hour before the top brass shows up ...and the last unit or two with smart leaders (usually Warrants) who say "fuck that" to the early-to-the-early-to-the-early-to-the-early formation.

 

[Via]

Just be there when you should be.

Sometimes, in the middle of a hectic day, I rush to make a small window of time for myself. Maybe it's only 10 minutes, from 1:50-2:00, to clear my head, grab a soda, check my e-mail, whatever.

When the person who I'm supposed to meet at 2:00 shows up early and disintegrates my little "vacation" I can't help but feel a little annoyed.

 

[Gintaras]

Sure time exists, you can measure it, and it isn't the same everywhere. Two clocks can be in sync to one person, and to another person they may not be in sync.

http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jun/in-no-time

 

[HAL9000]

For me being on time is being there and ready to do whatever it is you need to do for the time it starts.

E.g. If you work involves you being sat at a desk in a suit, and you are there sat in your desk in a suit at 9am when you work day starts, then you're on time. But if your job involves you being dressed as a dinosaur then you need to be dressed in the suit for 9am, not just there.

 

[cronos]

In the Air Force, they say if you're on time you're late and should arrive 15 minutes early to everything. This gets very annoying when someone giving out a time accounts for 15 minutes early so you end up showing up 30 minutes early instead or even worse if it compounds and multiple people push the start time 15 minutes each time they pass it to the next person.

In the Air Force, they say if you're on time you're late and should arrive 15 minutes early to everything. This gets very annoying when someone giving out a time accounts for 15 minutes early so you end up showing up 30 minutes early instead or even worse if it compounds and multiple people push the start time 15 minutes each time they pass it to the next person.

what is this sorcery?

 

[shortylickens]

We had the fifteen minute rule in the Navy too.
I hate that shit. Its especially bad if you are busy and do multiple things per hour. You can never possibly get anything done. You're always rushing to be early for other things.

Of course having learned that policy in the Navy, I am often irritated in civilian life with people who perpetually show up 15 minutes late.
Seriously dude, if you are always that late then obviously you arent getting up early enough. Do you think theres a correlation between your inability to learn calculus and your inability to learn time management?

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

what is this sorcery?

I was kind of wondering this myself. If I'm one in a billion that means there's like 7 other mes on earth right?

 

[rudeguy]

what is this sorcery?

hole
lee
shit

I am scared. Hold me?