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Toasty - Home Depot 3-Tier Mini Rack $5.97, Bulk CAT6 deals

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If you guys are really in need of one of these shelving units, I found some local.

I am honestly not trying to capitolize on this, but I don't want to completely waste my time, either.

FS
 
Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Could you tell me generally where they are kept in the store? I just don't want to walk all around a HD which is pretty big.
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sweet.

Award for laziest person of all time! lol....

If you cant enjoy walking around a HD for 10 minutes- you dont know how to enjoy life!

Dont worry- your XBOX will still be there when you get home!
 
Originally posted by: lowepg
Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Could you tell me generally where they are kept in the store? I just don't want to walk all around a HD which is pretty big.
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sweet. award for laziest person of all time! lol....

If you cany enjoy walking around a HD for 10 minutes- you dont know how to enjoy life!

Dont worry- your XBOX will still be there when you get home!
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lol.... 🙂
 
Originally posted by: lowepg
Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Could you tell me generally where they are kept in the store? I just don't want to walk all around a HD which is pretty big.
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sweet.

Award for laziest person of all time! lol....

If you cant enjoy walking around a HD for 10 minutes- you dont know how to enjoy life!

Dont worry- your XBOX will still be there when you get home!
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But I was right to worry. I walked all around HD and didn't find the rack.
 
Originally posted by: vetteguy

It just has to do with the cable spec. Will short cables work? Yes. But since they're out of spec manufacturers of equipment can't guarantee you won't have problems. That's all.
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It doesn't have anything to do with the cable specifications. It has to do with the ethernet specification. Specifically, CSMA/CD (Carrier Sense Multiple Access With Collision Detection).
Basically, the minimum cable length is to allow enough time to pass during transmission for collision detection to function properly, but if you're using even semi-modern equipment it's running in full-duplex which bypasses the CSMA/CD protocol. No collisions occur so no collision detection is necessary and no minimum segment length is required.

Technical read

 
Originally posted by: VaG
Originally posted by: vetteguy

It just has to do with the cable spec. Will short cables work? Yes. But since they're out of spec manufacturers of equipment can't guarantee you won't have problems. That's all.
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It doesn't have anything to do with the cable specifications. It has to do with the ethernet specification. Specifically, CSMA/CD (Carrier Sense Multiple Access With Collision Detection).
Basically, the minimum cable length is to allow enough time to pass during transmission for collision detection to function properly, but if you're using even semi-modern equipment it's running in full-duplex which bypasses the CSMA/CD protocol. No collisions occur so no collision detection is necessary and no minimum segment length is required.

Technical read
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So what about what cmetz said?:
Some devices will have problems with cables that are too short, most notably certain RealTek-based NICs. FYI.

 
Originally posted by: Slickone

So what about what cmetz said?:
Some devices will have problems with cables that are too short, most notably certain RealTek-based NICs. FYI.
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He also said "There's a minimum cable length, I believe it's 1m." which would make him off by 1.5m (5 ft.) on the spec he quoted. He also said "Not to mention that 1ft cables are not all that useful, length-wise." There are already a few people in this thread that disagree and I don't think it would be too hard to find more people with an eye for detail. Even if I gave him the benefit of doubt that would make him 1 for 3, which is not a good average in my book.
 
I have been using the 1ft "out of spec, below minimum length..." cables for a week. I personally don't care about specs, the cables and work fine, period. How will your device know how long the cable is anyway? I don't think my Linksys router, VOIP box, Gigabit switch are measuring cable length. It's only a path to the system.

All the 1ft cables are used for connecting devices at 10/100 speed (VOIP, Linksys Wireless Router, DSL modem, Gigabit switch). High speed local transfers take place using 14ft Cat6 ethernet cables through the SMC Gigabit switch. There have been ZERO problems with VOIP, on 3Mb/sec DSL streaming music, downloading files from the net, surfing, etc. It all goes through 1ft Cat6 cables.

Other info
Benchmarks Cat5 VS Cat6 via SMC Gigabit switch transferring a Fedora OS DVD. Visually watched in Ubuntu Linux Network monitor. Max 22MBytes/sec using either 14ft Cat6 or 10ft Cat5, didn't seem to matter. The speed seemed to be more stable on Cat6, but I feel it was not likely due to cables since they both reached the same max speed. I have seen 27MBytes/sec using two SATAII drives on the same LAN also. This compares to approximately 8MBytes/sec with 10/100 equipment.

PC1
AMD64 3200
Asus A8N-E
80gig SATAII Hitachi

PC2
AMD64 3000
Chaintech VNF4-Ultra
160gig PATA Seagate 7200.7

As for the wine rack, your on your own. I have no use for one, but the woman I spoke with there mentioned they had them on sale too.
 
I picked up 5 mini racks yesterday for $5.97 each in Harrison Ohio. They had 30 or so left there. It was the only store in a 50 mile radius around me that had any left. Check at the service desk with the SKU from the first page and they can tell you what store has them. Check near the plastic storage boxes or a clearence Isle.
 
All but one of our IDF rooms (6 total, not counting server room) use 1ft cables between the switches and the patch panels that go out to the floor. It was a project that was just done < 6 months ago.

No problems whatsoever (~500+ connections). The 1 room that hasn't been switched over yet is such a PITA any time we need to dis/connect a port. The cables are snaked up/over/around the racks or just dangling loose. It's very unsightly, and overall just a big bird nest of cables.
 
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