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Another applicant listed previous experience at an engineering firm as a part-time programmer while finishing school. His school-based website has a page where he says he was a PC tech there.
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That doesn't mean he WASN'T a part-time programmer there at some point.
 
Originally posted by: krmarks
Smells like discrimination.....I wonder the legality of that. I think you can only make hiring decisions based on a resume, an interview, and a background check from a certified company.
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Discrimination only pertains to race, skin color, gender, religious affiliation, nationality - protected classes.

It's not even invasion of privacy - what expectation of privacy do you have if you put something out on the web?

They started calling it "world wide web" for a reason. Before you put that racist rant on your site, remember that anyone could read it. Anyone.

The old adage "Think before you speak" is more important than ever.
 
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Another applicant listed previous experience at an engineering firm as a part-time programmer while finishing school. His school-based website has a page where he says he was a PC tech there.
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That doesn't mean he WASN'T a part-time programmer there at some point.
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hey stop that talk, everything you read online is up to date, complete, accurate, factual, and 100% infallable truth!
 
Originally posted by: OdiN
What the hell is wrong with you people?

So the whole "If I have to sleep, I'll sleep at work" thing....that can't be a joke? You're disqualifying people because of a personal website? What an asshole.
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Even if it's a joke, it's indicative of their character. I don't think someone who would make that kind of joke has the greatest work ethic.
 
No offense but I think you did them a favor by passing on there resumes. They likely would not want to work for an uptight anal prick like you all seem to be.
 
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Another applicant listed previous experience at an engineering firm as a part-time programmer while finishing school. His school-based website has a page where he says he was a PC tech there.
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That doesn't mean he WASN'T a part-time programmer there at some point.
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hey stop that talk, everything you read online is up to date, complete, accurate, factual, and 100% infallable truth!
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:laugh:
 
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: krmarks
Smells like discrimination.....I wonder the legality of that. I think you can only make hiring decisions based on a resume, an interview, and a background check from a certified company.
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Discrimination only pertains to race, skin color, gender, religious affiliation, nationality - protected classes.
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That is not completely true. It can also extend to marital status and sexual orientation. I am pretty sure it could be argued in court and possibly won if they felt they were not hired due to a blog or a facebook. It is blurring the lines from making judgements based on skills. I would tread lightly in that situation.

Article on the legality of facebook

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Originally posted by: gigapet
No offense but I think you did them a favor by passing on there resumes. They likely would not want to work for an uptight anal prick like you all seem to be.
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That attitude will take you far in life.
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: gigapet
No offense but I think you did them a favor by passing on there resumes. They likely would not want to work for an uptight anal prick like you all seem to be.
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That attitude will take you far in life.
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so conversely its a requirment to want to work for an uptight anal prick in order to get far in life?
 
Originally posted by: krmarks
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: krmarks
Smells like discrimination.....I wonder the legality of that. I think you can only make hiring decisions based on a resume, an interview, and a background check from a certified company.
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Discrimination only pertains to race, skin color, gender, religious affiliation, nationality - protected classes.
Click to expand...

That is not completely true. It can also extend to marital status and sexual orientation. I am pretty sure it could be argued in court and possibly won if they felt they were not hired due to a blog or a facebook. It is blurring the lines from making judgements based on skills. I would tread lightly in that situation.

Article on the legality of facebook

edited for link and quoting
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Some employers even use a credit report as a deciding factor these days. Even though you don't need credit to have a job, it says a lot about a person if they have poor credit. I'd rather have someone with good credit work for me than someone who has bad credit. I'd rather have someone who has the sense to NOT brag about evading the police on the Internet work for me rather than someone who doesn't have the sense to keep their mouth shut.
 
Originally posted by: gigapet
No offense but I think you did them a favor by passing on there resumes. They likely would not want to work for an uptight anal prick like you all seem to be.
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For all you know, he works for an outsourced hiring agency, doesn't reflect about the actual work environment.

Have y'all seen the total wastes of organic materials that infest the office environment? Unless they applicant pool is small, their goal is similar to that of universities, find any excuse to remove this person from the application pool.


Originally posted by: krmarks
That is not completely true. It can also extend to marital status and sexual orientation. I am pretty sure it could be argued in court and possibly won if they felt they were not hired due to a blog or a facebook. It is blurring the lines from making judgements based on skills. I would tread lightly in that situation.

Article on the legality of facebook
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That article specifically says they can use google, your web site, and your blog, just not facebook because of the terms & conditions.
In this digital age, employers can easily find out more information about you than you would care to reveal during a job interview. Your future employer can Google you, surf your Web site and read your blog to research more about you. While such extensive background checks are distasteful, they are not illegal. Information posted on Web sites and blogs is public and freely available to all, including nosy corporate recruiters.
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I agree with you, but I do wonder the legality of it. I personally do not find it ethical to go the route of google and facebook. I would rather let it all come out in the interview and resume/cover letter.
 
Originally posted by: krmarks
I agree with you, but I do wonder the legality of it. I personally do not find it ethical to go the route of google and facebook. I would rather let it all come out in the interview and resume/cover letter.
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If you don't want someone to know, why bother taking the time to put it on the internet where hundreds of billions of people across the world have access to it?

If you're stupid enough, then you deserve the negative consequences.
 
Originally posted by: krmarks
I agree with you, but I do wonder the legality of it. I personally do not find it ethical to go the route of google and facebook. I would rather let it all come out in the interview and resume/cover letter.
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You can find out a lot more about a person with google than they'd be willing to tell you themselves. That's the point.

There is no expectation of privacy when you post stuff about yourself on the Internet.
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: krmarks
I agree with you, but I do wonder the legality of it. I personally do not find it ethical to go the route of google and facebook. I would rather let it all come out in the interview and resume/cover letter.
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You can find out a lot more about a person with google than they'd be willing to tell you themselves. That's the point.

There is no expectation of privacy when you post stuff about yourself on the Internet.
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But where does the expectation come from that the info on the google results page is at all accurate? Transcripts, work experience, credit reports are all from sources that can be validated and checked for accuracy. Google results do not carry such guarantee on the quality of information they contain. So really you are running a high risk of disqualifying high quality canidates based on low quality information. edit: That practice just seems like a sloppy, innapproriate and unprofessional method of evaluation.
 
It's not the privacy that I am hung up on. That part I fully agree with. Stupid is as stupid does, but it is the ethics of hiring based on something other than skill set/interview skills. We all know business ethics do not really exist. I mean people sue over everything....freakin spilled coffee for christ sake. It won't take long for this to be added to the list.
 
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: krmarks
I agree with you, but I do wonder the legality of it. I personally do not find it ethical to go the route of google and facebook. I would rather let it all come out in the interview and resume/cover letter.
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You can find out a lot more about a person with google than they'd be willing to tell you themselves. That's the point.

There is no expectation of privacy when you post stuff about yourself on the Internet.
Click to expand...

But where does the expectation come from that the info on the google results page is at all accurate? Transcripts, work experience, credit reports are all from sources that can be validated and checked for accuracy. Google results do not carry such guarantee on the quality of information they contain. So really you are running a high risk of disqualifying high quality canidates based on low quality information. edit: That practice just seems like a sloppy, innapproriate and unprofessional method of evaluation.
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It seems like Kranky is at least putting some effort into verifying that he has the right person. Like the last one - the guy's experience matched up, he just fudged with the job title.
 
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