To those of you that disliked Seinfeld

[Dean]

It is true that every guest on Seinfeld, got their lives ruined or they got killed on the show. Only the main cast was left unscathed. They were ruthless and funny.

 

[neutralizer]

I just don't think Seinfield is funny. As for the comedies that I watch, I enjoy The Office, Futurama, and Family Guy.

 

[Dean]

Originally posted by: neutralizer
I just don't think Seinfield is funny. As for the comedies that I watch, I enjoy The Office, Futurama, and Family Guy.

None of those shows have anything on Seinfeld. The Office is meh. The others well, while funny, offered the same every episode

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: DonVito
To me the defining characteristic of Seinfeld, and what I love most about it, is its total amorality. I remember seeing an interview with Larry David where he talked about how he and Jerry sat down when they created the show and decided there would never be a "very special Seinfeld." The characters would never learn anything from their experiences, and would continue to be completely shallow and self-absorbed from episode to episode. There would never be a moral to the story.

To me, Seinfeld is a pure comedy in way that is essentially unprecedented. The preachy, faux-emotional episodes of MASH and Frasier are, IMO, completely phony and lame (they're kind of the power ballads of situational comedy). Seinfeld, on the other hand, is the real deal - pure booze, no mixer.

As I said in the other Seinfeld thread, I really can't respect an adult who dislikes Seinfeld. That is kind of a deal-breaker for me.

Exactly. In this way Seinfeld and the Simpsons revitalized and transcended the dying half-hour-comedy format.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Dean

Originally posted by: neutralizer
I just don't think Seinfield is funny. As for the comedies that I watch, I enjoy The Office, Futurama, and Family Guy.

None of those shows have anything on Seinfeld. The Office is meh. The others well, while funny, offered the same every episode

Absolute, steaming, retarded BS regarding Futurama at least :roll:

Back on topic, and ignoring crazed Seinfeld fans...I find Futurama hilarious, and extremely clever, and i love Monty Python and Blackadder.

I canit imagine 'dean' has ever actually watched either of the last two, have you

 

[aloser]

Originally posted by: DonVito
To me the defining characteristic of Seinfeld, and what I love most about it, is its total amorality. I remember seeing an interview with Larry David where he talked about how he and Jerry sat down when they created the show and decided there would never be a "very special Seinfeld." The characters would never learn anything from their experiences, and would continue to be completely shallow and self-absorbed from episode to episode. There would never be a moral to the story.

To me, Seinfeld is a pure comedy in way that is essentially unprecedented. The preachy, faux-emotional episodes of MASH and Frasier are, IMO, completely phony and lame (they're kind of the power ballads of situational comedy). Seinfeld, on the other hand, is the real deal - pure booze, no mixer.

As I said in the other Seinfeld thread, I really can't respect an adult who dislikes Seinfeld. That is kind of a deal-breaker for me.

That's one of the reasons that I can't really respect an adult who likes Seinfeld. To just continuously make the same mistakes, scenarios, etc. detracts all credibility - but maybe that was one of the points that they were going after.

As to "preferences" - well, personally I go for anything clean (or mostly clean, since there isn't much "clean" stuff anymore).

 

[Dean]

Yea Dug I have watched both. I could never get into Futurama and although I still watch Family Guy, it is no longer on my "Must See" list. Maybe I am just getting old. It all comes down to the age groups who watch them I guess. Now the Simpsons from seasons 2-12 kicked a$$, so I'm not totally against animation.

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: DonVito
To me the defining characteristic of Seinfeld, and what I love most about it, is its total amorality. I remember seeing an interview with Larry David where he talked about how he and Jerry sat down when they created the show and decided there would never be a "very special Seinfeld." The characters would never learn anything from their experiences, and would continue to be completely shallow and self-absorbed from episode to episode. There would never be a moral to the story.

To me, Seinfeld is a pure comedy in way that is essentially unprecedented. The preachy, faux-emotional episodes of MASH and Frasier are, IMO, completely phony and lame (they're kind of the power ballads of situational comedy). Seinfeld, on the other hand, is the real deal - pure booze, no mixer.

As I said in the other Seinfeld thread, I really can't respect an adult who dislikes Seinfeld. That is kind of a deal-breaker for me.

It was your post in the other thread that got me to post this thread. Although, I still repect people that dislike Seinfeld, I don't understand them.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: DonVito
To me the defining characteristic of Seinfeld, and what I love most about it, is its total amorality. I remember seeing an interview with Larry David where he talked about how he and Jerry sat down when they created the show and decided there would never be a "very special Seinfeld." The characters would never learn anything from their experiences, and would continue to be completely shallow and self-absorbed from episode to episode. There would never be a moral to the story.

The only other show I've come across with this characteristic is the scifi show Lexx.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Squisher

Originally posted by: DonVito
To me the defining characteristic of Seinfeld, and what I love most about it, is its total amorality. I remember seeing an interview with Larry David where he talked about how he and Jerry sat down when they created the show and decided there would never be a "very special Seinfeld." The characters would never learn anything from their experiences, and would continue to be completely shallow and self-absorbed from episode to episode. There would never be a moral to the story.

To me, Seinfeld is a pure comedy in way that is essentially unprecedented. The preachy, faux-emotional episodes of MASH and Frasier are, IMO, completely phony and lame (they're kind of the power ballads of situational comedy). Seinfeld, on the other hand, is the real deal - pure booze, no mixer.

As I said in the other Seinfeld thread, I really can't respect an adult who dislikes Seinfeld. That is kind of a deal-breaker for me.

It was your post in the other thread that got me to post this thread. Although, I still repect people that dislike Seinfeld, I don't understand them.

I can't see any rationality behind liking a show simply because it's 'groundbreaking'. That's totally inane, somewhat like prefering a Model-T to a 2006 Lexus because the Model-T was so amazingly original

I dislike the show because it's crude, inane, and often painfully forced humour IMHO. Nobody could fail to get it, because they flog every joke & silly situation to death.

If you can't respect me for having my own opinion about something, that's remarkably closed minded & parochial

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: dug777
I can't see any rationality behind liking a show simply because it's 'groundbreaking'. That's totally inane, somewhat like prefering a Model-T to a 2006 Lexus because the Model-T was so amazingly original

I dislike the show because it's crude, inane, and often painfully forced humour IMHO. Nobody could fail to get it, because they flog every joke & silly situation to death.

If you can't respect me for having my own opinion about something, that's remarkably closed minded & parochial

Game....set....match....Don Vito.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: dug777
I can't see any rationality behind liking a show simply because it's 'groundbreaking'. That's totally inane, somewhat like prefering a Model-T to a 2006 Lexus because the Model-T was so amazingly original

I dislike the show because it's crude, inane, and often painfully forced humour IMHO. Nobody could fail to get it, because they flog every joke & silly situation to death.

If you can't respect me for having my own opinion about something, that's remarkably closed minded & parochial

Game....set....match....Don Vito.

yeah...

*runs away*

 

[iamwiz82]

The beauty of Seinfeld is that it was written by a bunch of guys with no sitcom experience who decided to do things the way they wanted and it worked.

The characters aren't fake, they are real. Larry David wrote Kramer exactly how the real Kramer was, and George is Larry, and Jerry is, well, Jerry. The humor coming out of it is real, as well.

I just watched the interview yesterday with Larry David were he explained how the real Seinfeld discussions with NBC went, and how he did exactly what George did in the episode (THIS IS THE SHOW!). You cannot make a lot of their stories up.

 

[pontifex]

i'm with a few other people in saying that I don't dislike it, but i've seen way funnier stuff than that. for example, Kids In The Hall is hilarious.

My one friend likes Curb Your Enthusiasm so he had me watch a few episodes. SOme of it was funny but everything looks forced and the actors suck. they try too hard to be funny.

 

[rh71]

I couldn't stand the 3-sec jingles between scenes. And in one episode, there were A LOT of scenes. My God that was so fricken annoying.

 

[SuperSix]

I think Seinfeld is a bit too cerebral for most.

 

[Rock Hydra]

I prefer stand-up comedy and sketch comedy, over sitcoms.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Feldenak
M*A*S*H

:roll:

Not fan of social commentary with your comedy?

Not at all. MASH was a decent show and during the Trapper John/Henry Blake years it was quite funny. After that it sucked and it went on for what? 3 times as long as the Korean War?

Not nearly as good as Seinfeld.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Feldenak
M*A*S*H

:roll:

Not fan of social commentary with your comedy?

Not at all. MASH was a decent show and during the Trapper John/Henry Blake years it was quite funny. After that it sucked and it went on for what? 3 times as long as the Korean War?

Not nearly as good as Seinfeld.

In its later years, MASH was SO painfully formulaic that I find the later shows almost unwatchable. Week in, week out, it was a repetitive, manipulative blend of 24 minutes of family-friendly comedy and p6 minutes of preachiness about the horrors of war. Meh. As I said, the reason I admire Seinfeld is its purity of vision - they never felt any obligation to preach, and in fact they deliberately avoided it.

 

[iamme]

Originally posted by: DonVito
To me the defining characteristic of Seinfeld, and what I love most about it, is its total amorality. I remember seeing an interview with Larry David where he talked about how he and Jerry sat down when they created the show and decided there would never be a "very special Seinfeld." The characters would never learn anything from their experiences, and would continue to be completely shallow and self-absorbed from episode to episode. There would never be a moral to the story.

To me, Seinfeld is a pure comedy in way that is essentially unprecedented. The preachy, faux-emotional episodes of MASH and Frasier are, IMO, completely phony and lame (they're kind of the power ballads of situational comedy). Seinfeld, on the other hand, is the real deal - pure booze, no mixer.

As I said in the other Seinfeld thread, I really can't respect an adult who dislikes Seinfeld. That is kind of a deal-breaker for me.

couldn't have said it better myself. including the part about not liking Seinfeld being a deal breaker. the moment someone utters "i don't like Seinfeld", they become my enemy. my foe. my........












.....newman.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Feldenak
M*A*S*H

:roll:

Not fan of social commentary with your comedy?

Not at all. MASH was a decent show and during the Trapper John/Henry Blake years it was quite funny. After that it sucked and it went on for what? 3 times as long as the Korean War?

Not nearly as good as Seinfeld.

In its later years, MASH was SO painfully formulaic that I find the later shows almost unwatchable. Week in, week out, it was a repetitive, manipulative blend of 24 minutes of family-friendly comedy and p6 minutes of preachiness about the horrors of war. Meh. As I said, the reason I admire Seinfeld is its purity of vision - they never felt any obligation to preach, and in fact they deliberately avoided it.

And because of this admiration, you feel nothing but contempt for those who can't stand it? :roll:

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: dug777

And because of this admiration, you feel nothing but contempt for those who can't stand it? :roll:

I don't recall using the word "contempt." I said I don't really respect anyone who actively dislikes Seinfeld. That was probably a poor choice of words - what I meant is that I don't think I could really get along with such a person.

Seinfeld is the smartest, funniest live-action sitcom ever broadcast in the United States IMO (the other shows that I see as being of a similar caliber are the UK Office and Fawlty Towers, though the brief Police Squad! series might qualify as well), and I have a hard time understanding how anyone with a fully-developed sense of humor could fail to appreciate it. That doesn't necessarily make them bad people, just people I have a very hard time relating to. I guess I'd say the same thing about someone who disliked The Sopranos, the movie Adaptation, and some other works of art. It just suggests I have little common ground with them.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: dug777

And because of this admiration, you feel nothing but contempt for those who can't stand it? :roll:

I don't recall using the word "contempt." I said I don't really respect anyone who actively dislikes Seinfeld. That was probably a poor choice of words - what I meant is that I don't think I could really get along with such a person.

Seinfeld is the smartest, funniest live-action sitcom ever broadcast in the United States IMO (the other shows that I see as being of a similar caliber are the UK Office and Fawlty Towers, though the brief Police Squad! series might qualify as well), and I have a hard time understanding how anyone with a fully-developed sense of humor could fail to appreciate it. That doesn't necessarily make them bad people, just people I have a very hard time relating to. I guess I'd say the same thing about someone who disliked The Sopranos, the movie Adaptation, and some other works of art. It just suggests I have little common ground with them.

It was. I understand you much better now, and i see where you are coming from. I think you also fail to take into account cultural differences, i asked my gf what she thinks of it just then and her comments, unprompted by me, were that she found it annoying and 'forced'...she then proceeded to ask me if i liked it, so she wasn't aware of my dislike of it beforehand...

 

[lokiju]

My fiancee doesn't/didn't like it but likes Friends.

I never really got into Friends myself but could enjoy it if there was nothing else on.

We both love Scrubs though and is probably the best comedy based show on these days.

 

[sao123]

I dont really like vulgar, sexual innuedno filled humor.... (which i believe this started with Roseann... which i sorta liked, but got bored with at the end.)

Shows automatically disqualified:

Seinfield
Everyone loves raymond
Family Guy
Simpsons
Married with Children




I prefer TV form a different age...
Matlock
McGuyver
Perfect Strangers
Family Matters
Major Dad
All in the Family
Sanford & Son
MASH
3 Stooges
The Jeffersons

Possibly the only show of today I like is Law & Order, which is coming rapidly to an end.