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To the people that are waiting to upgrade

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choliscott

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In many different threads, people have mentioned they were going to wait until Haswell before they were going to upgrade (& yes I know, people are waiting for what Intel & Amd future offerings)

Since the reviews & benchmarks have been released (except for end user based ones), so I just had a couple of questions..

1) What is your upgrade plan now?

2) Are you upset that you didn't upgrade sooner?
 
My upgrade plan is to wait for at least an intel 8 core cpu for mainstream (none xeon based), which will probably be a while. I have an old i7 970 6 core and don't want just a 10 to 20 percent increase in performance. Leaving it a couple of generations rather than just one or two.
 
My reaction to Haswell is completely meh. Very disappointing chip.

1. Still, might as well get Haswell since it is at its worst, the same as Ivy, a bit hotter but fine for mild overclocks, has more features, and will be a nice upgrade from Core 2.

2. Delayed by 3 months, not too bad of a delay.
 
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Nope, I wanted to know what Haswell had to offer. Now I'm just going to get it.

If I had 2500k (or was you), I wouldn't care. Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, Haswell are all pretty much similar.

Just have to wait now until intel releases an architecture with significant improvements. All the improvements I expected Haswell to have, it doesn't really do. I think AMD is more suited for what I wanted out of Haswell, which is a cheap part that is just good enough, when it comes to HTPC, Notebook, etc.
When it comes to Ultrabook, maybe Haswell is better but it's SO hard to do apples to apples comparisons with laptops we'll probably never know.

Intel's approach with Haswell was supposed to be lower power consumption. The numbers are so wild across reviews, I feel as if Haswell didn't really deliver. There is no break out "Wow" yet, but I guess we'll see how it's implemented in other devices in the mobile sector before I jump to conclusions. I just expected more though.

I'm hoping that I can get a cheap Intel Nuc now that Haswell is out. Would be perfect for my living room. The whole HTPC sector is a mess though in general. I feel it could be done a lot better but we're moving to ultra tiny devices, rather than devices that actually look like HTPCs. Lian Li is the only company so far to make an HTPC that I feel looks like it actually belongs but I don't have a link to it.
 
I'm not unhappy with the Haswell chips. It's just that, in most cases, they don't provide enough of a performance increase to warrant the cost unless one has a pre-Sandy Bridge system.

I'm actually interested to see what IB-E brings in Q3. The fact that LGA 2011 is getting a bit long in the tooth may actually work in favor of a bargain hunter; if I can find a good deal on a board, IB-E might be a cost effective path towards lots o' cores.
 
I have been (sort of) thinking of upgrading from i7-860 (mild OC operating @3.5-4.0GHz) for the past years, just for the sake of it. Nearly jumped onto the IB bandwagon last year, but the CPU still coped and a GPU upgrade was the better option.

I have the itch to go Haswell now, but as I'm still not running into bottlenecks yet, I probably will hold on yet longer.
 
1) Screw it. Waited with the i7 920 long enough (retiring it to the folks). Paid the new adaptor tax difference over a comparable 3770K combo at MC (~$110) and got the 4770K + Z87-GD65.

2) We'll see. If I can squeeze at least 4.6GHz out of the 4770K (~5.7GHz Nehalem equivalent), I wouldn't mind having waited.
If I only manage to eke out 4.3GHz out of it (~4.8GHz Sandybridge equivalent), I'd be royally pissed and it would make high clocking SB adopters look like Nobel prize winners.
A 4.8 - 5GHz SB on a now discounted Z77 mobo? Sign me up!
 
choliscott said:
1) What is your upgrade plan now?

2) Are you upset that you didn't upgrade sooner?
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1. Same as before. I need to upgrade my system, and Haswell offers the best performance at its price point, and a new socket that will hopefully last one more generation.

2. If I had the money at the time, a 2500K would have been one of the best upgrades in history in terms of price/performance. However that's irrelevant since at the time, I was just finishing my studies and didn't have a job.
 
choliscott said:
1) What is your upgrade plan now?
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See what the selection of affordable mobos with add-in USB chips is like (2 USB 3.0 headers on the board! We've had that many or more since the early 2000s for USB 2.0, so step up to the plate with USB 3.0, already! I don't want to buy a card for what should be on the board, and I don't want to crawl to get to the fast USBs!), in the coming months, and consider buying if a good one comes up.

2) Are you upset that you didn't upgrade sooner?
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I would have upgraded sooner, if that had been the case. For 90% of what I do, my motherboard's RAM being maxed out is much more of an issue than CPU performance, and I'm much more concerned about getting long-term useful integrated features (more USB 3.0s, AVX2, TSX, decent IGP if I ever need it) than about the minor speed differences. Up to Haswell, there has abeen a distinct choice between Intel having performance, and AMD having features, while I want both, without using 2-3 expansion slots to get some of them.

While some issues may come to light, early reviews are looking promising. I could stand more CPU performance, sure, but getting my money's worth now will mean having something I can not need to upgrade for a few more years.
 
Honestly, I'm just waiting for Broadwell and Skylake to fall flat on its face
I'll see how steamroller/excavator looks in the future.
 
I'm interested in how steamroller performs and how it compares to Haswell seeing as Haswell isnt much better then Sandy Bridge 5-10% at most!

but steamroller is a massive 30-50% vs Bulldozer moving away from crippled 8 cores back to "almost" full 8 CPU cores

Probably wont beat Haswell on single threaded but maybe in multi.
 
i wood prolly git haswell evin though i dont needit if they was still a micracenta here. so ill prolly wait and hope that it reopens. no ackchally ill prolly gist byte da bullit and gitit from newegg (i hate frys) once da new steppin' cums out
 
A little disappointing thus far. Got 4.4GHz on both chips (same batch # from MC) with 1.2V, which according to ASUS means they're dogs 🙁
 
videoclone said:
I'm interested in how steamroller performs and how it compares to Haswell seeing as Haswell isnt much better then Sandy Bridge 5-10% at most!

but steamroller is a massive 30-50% vs Bulldozer moving away from crippled 8 cores back to "almost" full 8 CPU cores

Probably wont beat Haswell on single threaded but maybe in multi.
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got a cite?
 
Steamroller should be good, but we can't expect miracles from its performance improvement over Piledriver. I'd give it 10-20% at best, maybe even 5-15% to be more conservative. Like anyone, I hope it blows us all away, but it'll never have the performance/watt that Intel enjoys.

AMD may be able to catch up to Haswell level performance with Excavator, but I don't ever expect AMD to be able to do it at Haswell power levels.
 
WhoBeDaPlaya said:
A little disappointing thus far. Got 4.4GHz on both chips (same batch # from MC) with 1.2V, which according to ASUS means they're dogs 🙁
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Ouch. Yeah thats still super fast, but not an improvement for desktop enthusiasts. Sticking with 5Ghz 2700 until I see a solid 20%+ oc vs oc overall performance leap (including IPC).
 
probably going to go with haswell-E when it comes out. IB-E IPC increase was almost nothing, just power savings. PC is barely on so i don't care about power consumption.
 
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choliscott said:
In many different threads, people have mentioned they were going to wait until Haswell before they were going to upgrade (& yes I know, people are waiting for what Intel & Amd future offerings)

Since the reviews & benchmarks have been released (except for end user based ones), so I just had a couple of questions..

1) What is your upgrade plan now?

2) Are you upset that you didn't upgrade sooner?
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My upgrade plans are unchanged. Coming from an i7-920 it will be a decent upgrade.
 
choliscott said:
In many different threads, people have mentioned they were going to wait until Haswell before they were going to upgrade (& yes I know, people are waiting for what Intel & Amd future offerings)

Since the reviews & benchmarks have been released (except for end user based ones), so I just had a couple of questions..

1) What is your upgrade plan now?

2) Are you upset that you didn't upgrade sooner?
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1) I am one of the many people with an i7920 that was waiting for Haswell. I am more than a little dissapointed with it but I will still likely upgrade once the new stepping is released. This is more to upgrade the chipset than actual performance though. Though coming from a terribly heat limited C0 920, Haswell should offer me some nice increases.

2) I am not upset that I have not upgraded yet, but I am upset I have not had a reason to upgrade. I used to build an entire new system every 2 years and feel like I had made serious performance upgrades. I bought my i7920 in Feb 2009 and have only upgraded my gpu and added a SSD since then.
 
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Arkaign said:
Ouch. Yeah thats still super fast, but not an improvement for desktop enthusiasts. Sticking with 5Ghz 2700 until I see a solid 20%+ oc vs oc overall performance leap (including IPC).
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Is that on a P67, Z68 or Z77?
I suppose 4.4GHz isn't too shabby, since it's more or less a 4.8GHz IVB, which isn't easy to get (at reasonable Vcore anyway).
 
choliscott said:
1) What is your upgrade plan now?

2) Are you upset that you didn't upgrade sooner?
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I'm still using a Phenom II, so I'm definitely going to upgrade to Haswell as planned.

If I knew OCing was going the way it is now, I would have just jumped on Sandy Bridge. At this point, I'm not entirely sure what the point of K processors are now.

It's not like I think Haswell sucks, but it's surely a bit of a disappointment from a performance/OCing standpoint. However, I think we pretty much knew what to expect, but I just had to wait for the "latest and greatest." Well, at least for the notebook market, Haswell is more exciting. I'll be looking forward to seeing a Surface Pro 2.
 
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