To my fellow non "swing-state" voters....

OCGuy

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I'm not referring to the states where there is a 10% difference. I am talking about a Republican in California, or a Democrat in Texas type situation.

If you do, why? Other propositions/measures on the ballot? Or do you just feel it is your civic duty?
 

LS8

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I always vote, regardless. I am in a "swing-vote" state so to speak.

I always choose the candidate I think will do the job best. Voting party lines is an archaic practice for the intellectually challenged in my opinion.
 

fskimospy

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Chances are pretty good that neither of the two major parties are the party closest to your true beliefs anyway, so if you know that the state is locked up no matter what you do why not use that newfound freedom to vote for the 3rd party candidate who does support your views?
 

child of wonder

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I vote on the other issues and positions on the ballot, not just President.

But, living in South Dakota, my vote for President is meaningless.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: LS8
Voting party lines is an archaic practice for the intellectually challenged in my opinion.
So by that definition I guess we're to gather you'll be voting party lines.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: LS8
Voting party lines is an archaic practice for the intellectually challenged in my opinion.
So by that definition I guess we're to gather you'll be voting party lines.
RD: in another thread I asked how you'd be voting on the "Question 1, 2, 3" in Mass - there's no (D) behind the questions to make it easy on you :)
 

LS8

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: LS8
Voting party lines is an archaic practice for the intellectually challenged in my opinion.
So by that definition I guess we're to gather you'll be voting party lines.

Struck a nerve did I?
 

Drako

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I vote in all elections, no matter what. My wife's votes usually cancel mine out, if she decides to vote :).
 

g8wayrebel

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Missouri = swing state mess.
I live in blue hell in St Louis , but I'm red tried and true.
I always vote for purpose on issues and electorates...not necessarily party lines (R most often by a long shot).

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: LS8
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: LS8
Voting party lines is an archaic practice for the intellectually challenged in my opinion.
So by that definition I guess we're to gather you'll be voting party lines.

Struck a nerve did I?
Hey don't mind me, according to the Republican partisans I'm a Simpleton because I never voted for a Republican for President. I might not always vote Democrat but I definitely won't vote Republican.
 

LS8

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: LS8
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: LS8
Voting party lines is an archaic practice for the intellectually challenged in my opinion.
So by that definition I guess we're to gather you'll be voting party lines.

Struck a nerve did I?
Hey don't mind me, according to the Republican partisans I'm a Simpleton because I never voted for a Republican for President. I might not always vote Democrat but I definitely won't vote Republican.

So your attack on me was to prove what? That you agree with me?

I can't say that I would never vote for a Republican and I can't say I would never vote for a Democrat. Voting for someone because they have a D or an R in front of their name is ridiculous, but most people do it anyway.
 

jpeyton

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I'm a Democrat in a blue state, I vote, and your poll doesn't make any sense.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
I'm a Democrat in a blue state, I vote, and your poll doesn't make any sense.

Please enlighten me as to which part doesnt make sense?
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: jpeyton
I'm a Democrat in a blue state, I vote, and your poll doesn't make any sense.

Please enlighten me as to which part doesnt make sense?
I'm not in a swing state, but my state is blue, and that option isn't listed in your poll.
 

nageov3t

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I go to the polls to vote for local issues/elections as well as congress, may as well vote for president while I'm in there even though NJ isn't a competitive election.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: LS8
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: LS8
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: LS8
Voting party lines is an archaic practice for the intellectually challenged in my opinion.
So by that definition I guess we're to gather you'll be voting party lines.

Struck a nerve did I?
Hey don't mind me, according to the Republican partisans I'm a Simpleton because I never voted for a Republican for President. I might not always vote Democrat but I definitely won't vote Republican.

So your attack on me was to prove what? That you agree with me?
That wasn't as much of an attack as it was me just mocking you for being so full of yourself as to call others intellectually challenged because they might not agree with you

I can't say that I would never vote for a Republican and I can't say I would never vote for a Democrat. Voting for someone because they have a D or an R in front of their name is ridiculous, but most people do it anyway.
I could see myself voting for a Republican if he first told the Social Conservatives/ Ridiculous..err..Religious Right to take a hike. The last Republican nominee that did that was Barry Goldwater who was also the last Republican nominee that truly followed Republican ideals. The problem I had with him was his hawkish approach to Foreign Affairs.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: jpeyton
I'm a Democrat in a blue state, I vote, and your poll doesn't make any sense.

Please enlighten me as to which part doesnt make sense?
I'm not in a swing state, but my state is blue, and that option isn't listed in your poll.


The point of the poll was for the people who know thier vote will not count due to the electoral college process.
 

LS8

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
That wasn't as much of an attack as it was me just mocking you for being so full of yourself as to call others intellectually challenged because they might not agree with you

And why shouldn't I make that judgment? If it were untrue perhaps but you and I both know it's a ridiculous practice. Maybe it isn't PC or a popular view, that doesn't matter.

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I could see myself voting for a Republican if he first told the Social Conservatives/ Ridiculous..err..Religious Right to take a hike. The last Republican nominee that did that was Barry Goldwater who was also the last Republican nominee that truly followed Republican ideals. The problem I had with him was his hawkish approach to Foreign Affairs.

I don't have a problem with a candidate hailing from a certain religion so long as they hold true to the principles and ideals of the Constitution. They can believe what they want, it's none of my business and truthfully I don't even consider it in my judgements of the person so long as they don't have a record of using said beliefs to dictate how they act in government.

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: LS8
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
That wasn't as much of an attack as it was me just mocking you for being so full of yourself as to call others intellectually challenged because they might not agree with you

And why shouldn't I make that judgment? If it were untrue perhaps but you and I both know it's a ridiculous practice.

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I could see myself voting for a Republican if he first told the Social Conservatives/ Ridiculous..err..Religious Right to take a hike. The last Republican nominee that did that was Barry Goldwater who was also the last Republican nominee that truly followed Republican ideals. The problem I had with him was his hawkish approach to Foreign Affairs.

I don't have a problem with a candidate hailing from a certain religion so long as they hold true to the principles and ideals of the Constitution. They can believe what they want, it's none of my business and truthfully I don't even consider it in my judgements of the person so long as they don't have a record of using said beliefs to dictate how they act in government.
Which excludes the Religious Right and the Social Conservatives who seem to be the base for the Republican Party.
 

LS8

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: LS8
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
That wasn't as much of an attack as it was me just mocking you for being so full of yourself as to call others intellectually challenged because they might not agree with you

And why shouldn't I make that judgment? If it were untrue perhaps but you and I both know it's a ridiculous practice.

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I could see myself voting for a Republican if he first told the Social Conservatives/ Ridiculous..err..Religious Right to take a hike. The last Republican nominee that did that was Barry Goldwater who was also the last Republican nominee that truly followed Republican ideals. The problem I had with him was his hawkish approach to Foreign Affairs.

I don't have a problem with a candidate hailing from a certain religion so long as they hold true to the principles and ideals of the Constitution. They can believe what they want, it's none of my business and truthfully I don't even consider it in my judgments of the person so long as they don't have a record of using said beliefs to dictate how they act in government.
Which excludes the Religious Right and the Social Conservatives who seem to be the base for the Republican Party.

For me it excludes anyone who would seek to enact laws in our country that at their heart aim to limit our civil rights, be that person a Christian, Muslim, atheist, Democrat, Republican, anybody. I would no more vote for a Christian who advocates the forced teaching religion in public schools than I would vote for an atheist who advocates the restriction on the teaching of religion. Which brings me back to my original point. You vote for the person, not the party. I think we are pretty much on the same page here.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: LS8
[I would no more vote for a Christian who advocates the forced teaching religion in public schools than I would vote for an atheist who advocates the restriction on the teaching of religion.
Well when an Atheist actually gets elected then I'll cross that bridge.
 

LS8

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For better or for worse, I don't think you are going to see that happen any time soon.

:)
 

MovingTarget

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Despite not being beholden to any particular party, I am what amounts to a dead pixel on what otherwise is a really red state. I still vote on principle, but the winner-take all system makes it statistically worth nil.
 

magomago

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of course. i need to make aware that there are voters who think this system sucks, and will most definitely vote for a 3rd party to give them the voice they need