To Hedgehog or not to Hedgehog that is my question.....

[schuang74]

So should I or shouldn't I? I read the Tom's hardware review and they didn't like it all that much (middle performer). I then read the Anandtech review and they loved it (top performer). What's up with that? I don't mind spending the $$ but is it worth it? Or should I go for an Alpha or Taisol or Globalwin or Thermatake? Ahhh! This sucks!

 

[Viperoni]

quiet: Globalwin fop32-1
loud: Globalwin fop38

 

[jsbush]

Alpha Pal6035 with YS-Tech 27.2cfm fan: quiet!

From what people have told me the FOP32-1 and the FOP38 and the Taisol and the Alpha are all about equal. I heard the taisol was quieter though.

 

[Netopia]

I've put together about a dozen T-Bird and/or Duron systems now. I've used PAL-6035's, HedgeHogs and CoolerMaster's. By FAR, the best results have been with the HedgeHog. I've used a bunch of different fans and all of them, from the Delta Black label on down... with the HedgeHog, even a Black Label volted all of the way down to 5v and it still (even as we speak) is able to cool a Duron 600 @ 950 effectively.

Though it's more expensive, my vote would be the HedgeHog. I am interested in getting my hands on some Taisol's though.

Joe

 

[ginfest]

I'm OC a P-3 650 FCPGA with 1.75 Vcore(reads 1.80 in the CUSL-2)@ 936 with an Alpha PAL 6035, using the Sanyo-Denki fan from Alpha. This fan is quieter, I also have the YS-Tech fans, the difference is night and day!
Ambient (room temp) is 20 C
mainboard temp=23-25 C
at idle CPU internal diode=25-27C
at full load (say Q3 for hours)35-37C
If you have a choice, the Alpha is the best cooler, and the Sanyo-Denki fan the quietest.
Mike G

 

[hydrobum]

Does the weight of the Hedgehog come as a factor? Heard it was pretty heavy for HS.

-Hydro

 

[PlunX]

If you get a HedgeHog, I'd suggest putting a 5500RPM fan on it rather than leaving the 4500RPM fan on there that comes with it (even though I've heard that some come with 6800RPM fans).

 

[silky]

I have both the Hedgehog and an Alpha. There is no difference in Temp's between the two on my system. I have tried three different fans (26,30,36cfm's) and there is no differnce. Looks wise the Hedgehog is a beautiful piece, but if you want the most bag for you buck, go with the Alpha.

 

[Mikewarrior2]

Silky,

If that is on a Socket A platform, whose temp readings are highly inaccurate, compressed, and tons of other issues(see sig for more details), then there probably was a temp difference between alpha and hedgehog, only that due to thermistor location, the temp change was not registered.


Mike

 

[schuang74]

Mikewarrior

OK if you are so knowledgeable in why the HSF comparisons are so inaccurate, why don't you come up with an accurate comparison instead of going around wasting your time trying to disprove the other results. I have read your past comments and have yet to benifit from them in any way. OK so they are all inaccurate......... SO WHAT!? Where does that leave the rest of us trying to make decisions. SOL. I agree just by the inconsistencies of the results from the various HSF reviews how flawed the testing could be, but give us something constructive instead of trying to boost your own ego. I don't doubt what you know to be true, my point is SO WHAT?

 

[Renob]

Schuang 74 WOW and ouch...............

 

[TuOni]

There are two different types of hedgehog. When Toms Hardware reviewed the hedgehog. I believe that it was the first version of the hedgehog that had these small grooves on it which effected its cooling capabilities not to mention its safeness to use on a socket chip. Anyway I am running my duron 650 @ 1000 and it is at 87 degrees. My alpha pal was 94 degrees so my case stands

 

[Mikewarrior2]

schuang74,

I have stated before that I do not have either the time nor the money to do my own testing.I have said on NUMEROUS occasions that hte Overclockers.com's recent tests are the best thing to come yet. You obviously don't care about the truth. I do, and i think a lot of people do as well. Just because you're one $tupid f#ck who thinks i'm boosting my own ego, explain how I am doing that?

DO I make money by telling people this? DO I get paid for the time I take posting this information? Did I get paid to learn about why they are inaccurate? What do I personally have to gain from doing this. I benefit in no way by posting this information and in addition have to deal with Stupid morons like yourself.

If you've read my page, my whole point on doing this is to PREVENT teh spread of disinformation by big websites(ala TomsHardware and Anandtech). If you dont' believe they are spreadign disinformation, or that I am here to boost my own ego, then don't f%cking agree with me. Believe all the big websites. but to all the new users being FED LIES by these websites, it is important to know there are major problems with the reviews.

Mike
P.S. Sorry for the language to everyone else

 

[Mikewarrior2]

TuOni,

What is your ambient case temp? Unless it is 10C, your readings are very, very, very under-read by the mb.


Mike

 

[subhuman]

schuang74,

obviously you don't really care too much about the actual performance of a hsf unit, so just use the retail fan, it's free, and only 1 or 2* difference based on most tests *wink*

mikewarrior is spreading the truth, and if you don't want to hear it, then don't read it. but, if you want the best performance out of your hsf unit, then you need to realize that the method most large websites use is inaccurate, and that the built-in probe on your motherboard is basically lying to you.

also, the hedgehog is undoubtedly the best hsf, BUT, they do need some slight modification to ensure the maximum thermal dispensation. this involves lapping it (basically, just sanding it) up to 2000 grit. i suggest a 600 grit to get it smoother, then move to 1000, then 1500, then finish off with 2000... the less thermal paste you use, the better, just a SMALL dab of ArticSilver on a lapped hsf gives the best results in my experience (and higher overclocks in many cases!)