To Good To Be True!?!? PS2 (Rumoured) To Drop to $199 on 12/26!!! (Warning: Flames inside!)

[GQUnknown]

yo monkey boy,

This is a friggin forum not a college test, i don't have time like you to make sure everything is spelled right. Geez, get a life and go out side sometimes. It'll do you some good.

(I am only attacking emonkey because he flamed me first and now he is acting like a baby "oh gq is so mean he attacked me on im" shut up crybaby.

Can't take the heat don't play with fire.

And whats up with these newbie coming here with their 1st post flaming and sh!t.
Defref must of created a whole bunch of accounts to act like someone agrees with him.

Hey newbie go shine my boots and attempt your 1st pricematch before you flame okay.

Newbie Newbie new. MUAHAAHAAHA

 

[IshmaelLeaver]

I'm suprised the mods haven't locked this yet.

Hey, here's another rumor for you: Gamecube is going to be released early.

 

[Bob61]

Wow, what a hot deal. I'll have to purchase two of this deal! Where's the lock!

 

[serialb]

<< Also the PS2 isn't outselling the XBOX. Theres more PS2's out there because It's been out a year. But day by day the cube and xbox vastly outsell the ps2. >>



Dude, read the news and don't pull figures off your ass

 

[emonkey]

I saw that article too, but its doing it by quarter and since the XBox and GC were released a month after quarter start then PS2 had a jumpstart.

But regardless of who is selling more, the bigger question is "Who cares?" (other than complainers) There is enough room in the market for all three so anyone who takes a rumor of a pricedrop personally really needs to chill out and not blow their lid everytime they visit this thread.

 

[aja]

Wouldn't that be nice though. Still, since Microsoft is losing money anyway, I think that they should go ahead and drop the X-Box to $199. That way I could have both and not feel guilty.
Not that I'd feel guilty anyway.

 

[Hoysauce]

OMG, I have wet dreams over FFX!!!! If I wasn't moving soon, I'd get a PS2 in a second just for FFX!! =)

 

[flomokev]

<< The PS1 came out @ $299 and I think maybe even $399 at first. I remember my roomate in college just had to have one the week it came out. If I recall Sony made a $100 price drop about a year later. >>



I called Sony of America and you're right, the PlayStation did hit the market back in 1995 for around three hundred. The tech on the phone, when I ask about PS2 price cut, gave me a line that the thing is still current technology.

 

[DurocShark]

Ya'll are *STILL* arguing over this.

I'm not buying one till Feb, whether it's $300, $200, or 25 cents. If I wanted one now, I'd buy it now.

If we all waited for the next price drop before buying something, we'd all still be using our C=64's! (mmm... Turrican...)

LoL

 

[SpeedTester]

This pretty much sums up what kind of person Gqmoron is.

I am gonna call BS on this one.

PS2s are selling better than both XBOX and gamecube at $299, now why would you fix something that aingth broke. Seem slike DefRef can't afford a PS2 and is trying to make every body wait till dec. 29. that way he isn't the only one with out a PS@.

Come on guys they had been over a dozen rumors that PS2 lowering prices. I heard this bs too many times now.

If you don't wanna pay $299 for a PS2 then you would have to wait till 2003. Nuff said.

PS2 is not gonna have a price drop for at least another year.

DefRef:

you said you don't care about consoles, yet you post a thread about consoles. Bullsh!t
you say PS@ is gonna drop the price to $199. Again bullshit.

For all you ignorant people that don't believe that PS2 outsells xbox and gambecube, don't you read the news. Besides people by consoles to play the GAMES that they want. Okay i got a PS2 to play 9 of the 10 best games availible NOW. FFX, GTA3, MGS2, GT3, and Devil May Cry are only out on PS2 right now.

I was thinking about buying an XBOX at Virgin for $210 but figured i didn't want it to collect dust. OH well

IT A FACT PS2 OUTSELLS BOTH THE GAMECUBE AND XBOX EVEN THOUGH ITS BEEN OUT OVER A YEAR.
REASON = BECAUSE IT IS PLAIN AND SIMPLE: ITS BETTER HOWEVER YOU WHICH WAY YOU LOOK AT IT.
PEOPLE HAVE A BETTER TIME PLAYING THE PS2, THEREFORE THAT IS WHY THEY BUY IT. NUFF SAID.

Oh yeah to all you xbox and gamecube fanboy who is gonna reply to this post. =JJJJ===D~~~~


DefRef,

Stop being a big baby, 1st you say that the ps2 is gonna drop to $199 at 12/29. Now you say its only rumored to drop. Sh!t you next you are gonna say that it was a joke. Muahaahaa.

Stop playing game on these bored okay.

Moderators please lock this useless thread. PS2 ainght gonna drop to $199 any time soon. Everybody know its. DUUUah

Again I gotta call Bullsh!t on this deal


DefNeff,

Take your BS hot deal out of this forum. Pissing everybody off here.

DefRef,

Get that diaper outta you @ss, its in to deep.

what you gonna miss is all the great games for 2 weeks. Don't people buys things that they want. Why don't you tell people not to buy a PS2 until 2005, that way it should be in the bargain bins for under $100, all they gotta do is wait right, that is your model.

the point i am trying to make is that not everyone likes to wait, time is money. And I and everyone else with a brain nows that your ATOMIC HOT deal is a joke.

Thats why every one is pissed off, your telling everyone to wait 2 weeks for a deal that is not going to happen, so why should anybody wait. your giving false info with your "what do you gotta lose" crap. Sh!t what kid would want to wait after christmas for a nice gift.

Anybody who plans to get the PS2, should get it now, not wait for something to not happen.

If there was a slim chance of a price drop to $199, then wait. but this rumor is completely bullSh!t so don't get anybodies hopes up. No one should wait for something that is not gonna come true.

Nuff said.

Again i call bs

DefRef,

Look you little sh!t face. U are pissing everybody off here. So why don't you just shut you yap.
No, I do not work for Sony. Maybe you work for Microsoft and want to devalue the PS2 by saying it will have a price drop of 1/3. Well guess what you crap aight gonna work. Cuz anybody with a half a brain will be buying the PS2 as shown on every statistic availible.

Why am i so pissed off, Simply because you are making this up with your "reliable source" bullcr@p.
How bout i tell you not to eat for 15 days because food will be cheaper on 12/29/2001.

Lets put it this way I would be real happy if the PS2 indeed is getting a price drop. But the fact is that is simply not true and i am sick of you BS. Thas is what angers me. I don't know what your motives are but you are trying very very hard to make people believe your trash.

And your the one with the lack of economics fanboy. If your so smart why don't you go buy 1,000,00 xboxs at $299 and sell them for $99. Maybe you will make some money. that is your way of thinking.

Please read everyones post idiot. If the PS2 is selling out in everystore and is selling better than the competition why would the want to lose opportunity cost.

Defref,

Stop with this nonsense, your source this your source that. Show the friggin proof. In 9 days everybody is gonna see what a big fat lier you are. Friggin Crybabie. Go change your diaper.

Well my friggin source says the m$ will be giving out xboxs and lose $400 per console in jan 2002 because they want to make money on the games, isn't that where the money is. So everyone shouldn't buy an xbox. its no big deal what do you have to lose if they don't give the xbox away in jan. we all can buy it then.

Some one didn't take their prozac today
You want people to stop a flaming each other, but yet you add fuel to the fire. You are really intelegent.
Besides I will stop talking trash to defref once he stops talking trash to me. So why don't you mind your own business.

yo monkey boy,

This is a friggin forum not a college test, i don't have time like you to make sure everything is spelled right. Geez, get a life and go out side sometimes. It'll do you some good.

(I am only attacking emonkey because he flamed me first and now he is acting like a baby "oh gq is so mean he attacked me on im" shut up crybaby.

Can't take the heat don't play with fire.

And whats up with these newbie coming here with their 1st post flaming and sh!t.
Defref must of created a whole bunch of accounts to act like someone agrees with him.

Hey newbie go shine my boots and attempt your 1st pricematch before you flame okay.

Newbie Newbie new. MUAHAAHAAHA


Hey Jackass GQUnknown,

You sit here and attack somone and dont think your going to get some
negative feedback from him? The only one causing crap here is you, with your
useless non-informing posts
Get a life you loser, and Merry Christmas.

If Defref is right you all better appoligize to him.
Thanks for the tip Def, hopefully it'll work out @ 199.99

 

[mithrandir2001]

PS2 fanboys sure are a bullheaded bunch. I can think of no other console owning group that is so defensive about their chosen platform. Dissenters are to be silenced, unfavorable news is to be squashed, anything other than Sony is to be annihilated. I don't know if it's out of fear or out of a desire to justify their pricey console purchase to themselves and others.

 

[TheTec]

Def did you got already some more infos from your source ?

 

[whazzzzzup]

The ps2 price will not drop! Here's evidence....

Link to IGN

"Sony will not drop the price of the PS2 in 2002. Instead, it will continue to sell the PS2 for $299, bundled with the Network Adaptor and the HDD."

Edit: my bad...should have read the whole article...thx bubba...predictions are predictions....

 

[bubba]

That is not evidence... Look at the title, "Predictions". That is merely a guess.

 

[DefRef]

OK, here's the entire e-mail I received today from my guy on the inside:

[DefRef], last night at work I verfied the information I got regarding the playstation 2. There has been a change. It is going down to 199 on December 26th, not the 29th. There is even a reason for it.

A tentative release date just came out for the Playstation 3. Midway through NEXT YEAR. Once the release date goes fully public, the price will be dropped.

Tell all those "I know more than you," effing morons in those chat rooms to kiss my white, hairy ass.

Make of it what you will. I can already hear the #1 complaint, "The DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS?!?!? What's to keep everyone from just returning what they got the day before and rebuying?", and I totally agree. It doesn't make sense, but that's what he says.

One way or another, we'll KNOW ABSOLUTELY how good this info is in FIVE DAYS. Next Wednesday, we'll either be $100 ahead....or not. There's nothing lost by waiting and as my mother says, "It's not your birthday." (unless it actual is, like it was for my grandfather), so you life won't be ruined if you can't start FFX until Wednesday. Peace out.

/me pulls on asbestos jockeys

 

[IshmaelLeaver]

PS3 next year? There's no way they could have developed the hardware that fast, and think of how PO'ed PS2 owners would be if it came out so soon.

Your "source" is BS.

If the price doesn't drop on the 26th, I hope you get banned from AT.

 

[emonkey]

Awww defref. I was on your side this whole time but it turns out your "source" is full of it. The PS2 is very capable still and releasing another system so soon doesnt make sense. I'd edit it out unless you want to encourage the angry flamers that are on their way.

Dang it!

 

[crypticlogin]

Okay, I was trying to keep an open mind and maybe even hopeful on this, but the Playstation 3 release in 2003 is a lie.

<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_1216000/1216551.stm">BBC article -- IBM will be the CPU designer for PS3... chip production not to start until 2004</a>
ZDNet article...


I guess that doesn't mean the PS2 price drop couldn't occur, but the reasoning behind it is an outright, boldfaced lie.

edit: fixed broken link.

 

[mithrandir2001]

That BBC article is from March 2001...things change.

I can certainly believe that Sony would release the PS3 before 2004. You have to understand that Sony is JAPANESE. They are ruthless, committed competitors. They revere market share as if it was dishonorable to lose it. Sony will not allow itself to lose market share, but they realize that the PS2 will not be able to compete technically with X-Box or Gamecube...the PS2's technology is weaker and the development kit a problem to work with. 2004 is too long to wait for the PS3 and Sony knows it. PS2 is barely ahead in the current sales race with X-Box/GC and as supply ramps up, the PS2 will fall behind. It's already under 50% of current sales and I think Sony is deeply troubled. And with Sega now available to write games for all platforms, the viablility of non-Sony consoles seems much stronger.

Seeing the PS2 dropped to $199 on 12/26 seems a bit of a stretch for me, but it does not seem out of the realm of possibility.

 

[labmice]

don't know about you guys... but here are the reason why i think ps2 is better...

1) software (ie Final Fantasy X, Metal Gear Solid 2, Silent Hill 2, Soul Reaver 2, etc... just to name a few)

2) Neo4 (lets you play back up game, non-swap for cdr, and swap for dvd-r).

and if ps2 drop their price, which im pretty sure they'll do, but i don't really think it's going to be 33%... nonetheles ps2 is a better buy overall, that's just my opinion.

 

[ThePanda]

<< don't know about you guys... but here are the reason why i think ps2 is better...

1) software (ie Final Fantasy X, Metal Gear Solid 2, Silent Hill 2, Soul Reaver 2, etc... just to name a few)

2) Neo4 (lets you play back up game, non-swap for cdr, and swap for dvd-r).

and if ps2 drop their price, which im pretty sure they'll do, but i don't really think it's going to be 33%... nonetheles ps2 is a better buy overall, that's just my opinion. >>



I have both gamecube and ps2, and both are phat systems . I'm pretty sure that Neo4 company isn't making it anymore though, and you would end up buying the games you really want anyway because of the dvd format. But you need to get a gamecube in addition to your ps2 just to get super smash bros melee. or if you can't afford all that, get the original on n64. great multiplayer games

 

[jtallon]

<< I can certainly believe that Sony would release the PS3 before 2004. You have to understand that Sony is JAPANESE. They are ruthless, committed competitors. They revere market share as if it was dishonorable to lose it. >>



Uhm, or they could just be a big company trying to make money. I don't think being Japanese has *ANYTHING* to do with it.

Once the 'hype' of the Gamecube and Xbox wear off, it will be an interesting market - all 3 systems do essentially the same things, which is to play high quality 3d games on a TV. I don't think DVD matters TOO much, and I don't think broadband does much either. You have to remember that the majority of the market for these systems is NOT 'technical'. Moms buy game systems for their kids. Kids buy them with their own money. Only the real geeks like us buy them because they can push 3 million polygons in super-bitmapped tri-linear shading... We're the geeky (and vocal) minority.

Since all of them are *REALITIVEY* equal in horsepower, it comes down to the games. I've got a brother with an Xbox that tells me how much it kicks ass, but there are only about 3 games worth buying on the Xbox right now. He's getting pretty darn tired of playing Halo... Give it time, and it'll be a competitor. Same for the Game Cube.

But right now, and for the next 6 to 8 months, the PS2 will rule because you can go buy at least a dozen games for it that kick ass.

Sony will bring the price down to $249 around Easter - that's my prediction. It's selling strongly enough to hold that price until the Christmas season of next year, when it'll be at $199.

JMHO.

 

[emonkey]

nevermind

 

[crypticlogin]

<< That BBC article is from March 2001...things change. >>



No argument there. But production cycles from design to mass fabrication for a chip like "The Cell" (their name, not mine) is at a bare minimum, one year. Add that to the fact that the Fishkill foundry that the chip is supposed to be fabbed at was only announced in October of 2000 (link to story here). Fabrication facility construction is a multi-year project -- to build a fab from the ground up and have it churning out chips in under two years, to my knowledge, has never been done. AMD and Intel fabs tend to follow a three year construction schedule. So you see, my skeptism lies in the fact that the core of the PS3, this IBM produced chip, can't possibly be fabbed before 'Midway through NEXT YEAR'.



<< I can certainly believe that Sony would release the PS3 before 2004. You have to understand that Sony is JAPANESE. They are ruthless, committed competitors. They revere market share as if it was dishonorable to lose it. Sony will not allow itself to lose market share, but they realize that the PS2 will not be able to compete technically with X-Box or Gamecube...the PS2's technology is weaker and the development kit a problem to work with. 2004 is too long to wait for the PS3 and Sony knows it. PS2 is barely ahead in the current sales race with X-Box/GC and as supply ramps up, the PS2 will fall behind. It's already under 50% of current sales and I think Sony is deeply troubled. And with Sega now available to write games for all platforms, the viablility of non-Sony consoles seems much stronger.

Seeing the PS2 dropped to $199 on 12/26 seems a bit of a stretch for me, but it does not seem out of the realm of possibility. >>



Again, no argument. I agree that It would be in Sony's interest to throttle production but in reality, I think it's impossible.

 

[mithrandir2001]

<< I don't think being Japanese has *ANYTHING* to do with it. >>


I'm afraid it really does. Japanese companies are run differently than American companies...for better or worse. Just look at car manufacturers. The Big 3 is content on selling by virtue of price and spec sheets, whereas the Japanese invoke "soft" feelings like quality, reliability, commitment, loyalty, reputation and continual improvement.

Sony probably considers market domination more important than bottom-line profits. Japanese LOVE brands and branding. Sony wants to be the market leader in any market segment it competes. It will not allow MS or Nintendo to eat its cake...and they will have to drop the price of the PS2 to remain highly competitive.


<< all 3 systems do essentially the same things, which is to play high quality 3d games on a TV. I don't think DVD matters TOO much, and I don't think broadband does much either. You have to remember that the majority of the market for these systems is NOT 'technical'. Moms buy game systems for their kids. Kids buy them with their own money. Only the real geeks like us buy them because they can push 3 million polygons in super-bitmapped tri-linear shading... We're the geeky (and vocal) minority.

Since all of them are *REALITIVEY* equal in horsepower, it comes down to the games. I've got a brother with an Xbox that tells me how much it kicks ass, but there are only about 3 games worth buying on the Xbox right now. He's getting pretty darn tired of playing Halo... Give it time, and it'll be a competitor. Same for the Game Cube.

But right now, and for the next 6 to 8 months, the PS2 will rule because you can go buy at least a dozen games for it that kick ass. >>


Wow, by the sounds of your argument, we should all have Dreamcasts. High quality 3D games, no DVD but that doesn't matter, broadband is available (at a price) but that "doesn't matter". Moms and kids on budgets (the majority of console buyers) would love the $49 price instead of $199 and $299. You can go out and buy at least a dozen games for the Dreamcast that kick @ss. Hmmm. But the Dreamcast is almost dead and is being sold for firesale prices.

I'd gather, then, that the 3 remaining systems are indeed different enough from one another to create winners and losers.