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isaacmacdonald

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Originally posted by: leinadM
Originally posted by: Hatari Chic
Originally posted by: leinadM

I understand what you are saying, but you know, there are some things that simply cannot be watered-down.

Even things that cannot be watered down can require a gradual approach and a developed relationship to provide context for the discussion.

There's a time for a gradual approach, and there's a time for the straight foreword truth.

Insofar as the truth is some laughably archaic POV based on defunct utilitarianism.

 

Kev

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Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: Hatari Chic
Originally posted by: leinadM

I understand what you are saying, but you know, there are some things that simply cannot be watered-down.

Even things that cannot be watered down can require a gradual approach and a developed relationship to provide context for the discussion.
Did you just ask me out for a beer?

hahahahahahah :beer:
 
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Originally posted by: Ranger X
Originally posted by: Ulfwald
Originally posted by: Jehovah
So you think homosexuals having children aren't "natural"?

You're one of those "creationist" nutjobs, aren't you?

I am too.

If we evolved from Monkeys, then why are there still monkey around? Why is there a "missing link" We have found evidence to support just about every other theory on Earth, but why not this one?
Well there's no proof of Creationism either so what's your point?

You wackos never cease to amuse and entertain . . . we didn't "evolve" form monkeys. That's a common misconception, actually. Humans and monkeys have evolved from a common ancestor, we did not evolve from monkeys. And the thing about you guys being wackos . . . it's a (semi)joke - I still think you guys are wackos, but hey, whatever floats your boat . . . ;););)
 

Kev

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leinadM: you should check out that thread again. i actually gave you some support...still waiting for someone to debunk me.
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: Ulfwald
Originally posted by: Jehovah
So you think homosexuals having children aren't "natural"?

You're one of those "creationist" nutjobs, aren't you?

I am too.

If we evolved from Monkeys, then why are there still monkey around? Why is there a "missing link" We have found evidence to support just about every other theory on Earth, but why not this one?

Well, there are actually a great deal of theorys that we can't substantiate entirely, and I think there is quite a bit of substantial proof to back up the theory of evolution. Just check out a Discovery Channel special on prehistoric man sometime. Just out of curiosity tho, is there any evidence whatsoever to back up the theory of God? I could never find anything concrete. (Tho I am reading this book called "A Case for Christ" and it's somewhat interesting)
 

AreaCode707

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Originally posted by: leinadM

I don't think anything would be effective here.

You're incorrect, but as is the case nearly 100% of the time, real conversation in a one-on-one environment when both parties have gotten to know and respect each other is where effective discussions about belief take place.
 

leinadM

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Originally posted by: Hatari Chic
Originally posted by: leinadM

I don't think anything would be effective here.

You're incorrect, but as is the case nearly 100% of the time, real conversation in a one-on-one environment when both parties have gotten to know and respect each other is where effective discussions about belief take place.

Other than the part where you said "You're incorrect", I completly agree with you. :)
 

Rainsford

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You know what scares me about religion? If you come up with an opinion on your own, chances are you might be willing to change your mind. But if your religion tells you that you must hold a certain opinion, nothing on Earth can change your mind. After all, what on Earth can compare to the word of God, right? So you get wars based on religion where people do horrible things to each other and refuse to come to any sort of compromise because they believe they have God on their side. Religion is fine, as long as you don't let it take over your thinking for you. I'm sure you are convinced you are speaking the truth, but the real truth is that you are simply repeating what you've been told to believe. The world is full of people like you, and I'm convinced that the world would be a much better place if people would stop believing and start thinking.
 

iwearnosox

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Originally posted by: leinadM
Originally posted by: Atlantean
When did God tell you that homosexuality was wrong?

The Bible <--- Gods Word.
God created man in his own image, so he must have some homosexual tendencies. Maybe Jesus had a gay brother or something?
 

imported_Papi

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What people "think" and what is actually right are two different things.

One should not assume what is right for another idividual. It's is you who will suffer the out come.
 

BAMAVOO

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It's not that you're not entitled to your opinion, it's just that bible thumping christian trolls offend my own dedication to the great true lord, satan


You have issues dude.


Seek ye first the kingdom of GOD!
 
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Well, by saying that children should not be raising a child, you're making several broad, plainly idiotic implications:

-That all homosexuals act in a specific manner that is unsuitable for a child to grow up in,

-That there IS a definite "correct" way a child should be raised (environment, how they should be treated) regardless of what/who the child is,

-That we were designed with intent built in (this opposes the evolution theory - the reason I said that you're a ridiculous "creationist", BTW).

Point #1 is obviously false - so don't sterotype.

Point #2 - whoo boy, where to begin with - by saying that there's something wrong with a child's household based solely on the fact that both parents are same-sex (regardless of how they raise the child), you're saying that there's an ideal situation for a child to grow up in - why not take this further and say that there's an ideal culture for a child to grow up in? An ideal race of parents? Why does the parents being homosexual affect their abilities to be a parent?

Point #3 - well, if you're a creationist, I con't argue otherwise because you're alread - nevermind. ;););)

You sir, are a victim of heteronormativity.
 

Atlantean

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Originally posted by: leinadM
Originally posted by: Atlantean
Originally posted by: leinadM
Originally posted by: Atlantean
When did God tell you that homosexuality was wrong?

The Bible <--- Gods Word.

God didn't write the bible.

Well if that's what you think, then just never mind.

I am not saying I agree with homosexuality, just that God is not going to cast someone into Hell for being a homo. I know a few homo's that are Christians, are they going to Hell?
 

iwearnosox

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Only if they steal cable too. I think it's a point based system, like when you lose your license.
 

AreaCode707

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Man, you guys in the afternoon crew are active! I need to stop by more often - or is this a one time thing?
 

isaacmacdonald

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Originally posted by: leinadM
Originally posted by: Atlantean
Originally posted by: leinadM
Originally posted by: Atlantean
When did God tell you that homosexuality was wrong?

The Bible <--- Gods Word.

God didn't write the bible.

Well if that's what you think, then just never mind.

I thought it was plainly accepted that, with the exception of the 10 commandments, people wrote the bible.

Not that it matters.

The ideas are obviously mfg'd by humans with a real desire to anthropomorphise.