To Everyone:

[leinadM]

Due to the fact that I was interrupted by the phone, two mating birds, and my hungry stomach, I was unable to respond to half of the posts. So Iâ??m going to list my thoughts here. Iâ??m not trying to start a new debate, and no one has to respond; I just want everyone to know where I stand.

Firstly, the main reason that Iâ??m against homosexuals raising children is simply because it is unnatural; and I believe that a child is meant to be raised by a father and mother (who can disagree?). As for the other things I said, forget them; they were said in the heat of battle, and though Iâ??m not saying that Iâ??ve changed my mind about certain things; I should have known better than to say something in a forum that I didnâ??t have immediate proof of.

Secondly - concerning the topic of God and homosexuals - God obviously says that homosexuality is wrong. But so are many of the things that I seem to do everyday. So Iâ??m not going judge anyone, because no sin is really any worse than another, such, fornication, lust, hatred, etc; sin is sin, and God hates it.

Concerning Godâ??s tolerance: God is NOT tolerant towards sin. What could make anyone think that? Yes, he loves us all. And he will forgive us of anything if we ask; but ultimately, if one continues to go through life and never asks for forgiveness and God into his heart, then he will go to hell. Is the Bible not pretty clear on that? Some people can only talk about Godâ??s love; and that is dangerous. Thereâ??s a reason for hell, you know.

There. I feel much better now.

 

[jjones]

I thought God was a homosexual. Oh well, I guess it's back to Sunday school and the nazi penguins for me.

 

[LunarRay]

I always understood (without any authority or reference) that "hell" was a place created by God for the fallen angels who wanted to run the show.... I guess devils now. What puzzles me is why would God create a place for devils and then create humans and stick all the bad ones in hell with the bad ex angels.. I don't know... all this has little in the way of source documents to look up... Why create the enviornment wherein pain eternally was the potential result of many?

 

[sMiLeYz]

I dont believe in god, thus I have no qualms with homosexuality. I have a homosexual friend who always pofessed he wished he was "straight" because society deems it to be normal. I believe homosexuals have no choice over their sexual oriential.

I have no qualms with homosexuals raising children either, as long as the relationship is healthy and loving.
I would rather children be raised in a enviroment where they're being loved and cared for by a homosexual couple, rather than under abuse and neglect under two straight couples.

I also believe in Darwinism will work everything out eventually.

 

[spaceman]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
I dont believe in god, thus I have no qualms with homosexuality. I have a homosexual friend who always pofessed he wished he was "straight" because society deems it to be normal. I believe homosexuals have no choice over their sexual oriential.

I have no qualms with homosexuals raising children either, as long as the relationship is healthy and loving.
I would rather children be raised in a enviroment where they're being loved and cared for by a homosexual couple, rather than under abuse and neglect under two straight couples.

I also believe in Darwinism will work everything out eventually.

rectal pregnancies?

:Q

 

[flavio]

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[Red Dawn]

Hey Jesus preferred the company of men!

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey Jesus preferred the company of men!

Duh, that was his posse.

 

[RyanM]

Originally posted by: X-Man

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey Jesus preferred the company of men!

Duh, that was his posse.

And Jesus got a LOT of posse.

<rimshot />

But seriously. Who's this God guy? He sounds really opinionated and bigoted. Who the hell elected him? Or did he pull some sort of coup?

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: MachFive

Originally posted by: X-Man

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey Jesus preferred the company of men!

Duh, that was his posse.

And Jesus got a LOT of posse.

<rimshot />

But seriously. Who's this God guy? He sounds really opinionated and bigoted. Who the hell elected him? Or did he pull some sort of coup?

He didn't get the popular vote, but supposedly got the electoral vote.

 

[RyanM]

How could he have gotten the electoral college if he only won the electoral votes of less than 25% of the world population? I mean, I could understand it if he had bordering on 50% of the popular vote, but he didn't even have that.

Someone's really gotta do something about this. He doesn't seem fit to rule with such obvious prejudices and anachronistic beliefs.

 

[Geekbabe]

I am against innocent children suffering as they are bounced from foster care home to foster care home.A home,with people who love and care for should be the birthright of every child in this country.If allowing qualfied gays to adopt promotes this goal then I'm all for it!

 

[Moonbeam]

I feel better after I take a dump too.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: MachFive

Originally posted by: X-Man

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey Jesus preferred the company of men!

Duh, that was his posse.

And Jesus got a LOT of posse.

<rimshot />

But seriously. Who's this God guy? He sounds really opinionated and bigoted. Who the hell elected him? Or did he pull some sort of coup?

Yeah, which god is he referring to? Zeus, Odin, Apollo, Thor, Hera, Krishna, Gea?

 

[Alistar7]

I did not read anyone else's response, so maybe this thought of homosexual parenting has been covered by one of our many esteemed and insightfull members.

If the process by which one becomes homosexual is by being raised by a pair of homosexuals, how could anyone have EVER been homosexual? What couple reproduced and raised the first one?

They have found similar genetic trends in about 50% tested, with our limited understanding of each part of the human genome, undoubtably they will find more. Once they do have a complete understanding I hope they find you and change yours around, let you walk around for a week drooling over construction guys butts and watching any movie with Mel Gibson's a*s.

God obviously says that homosexuality is wrong.

YOUR God also says man is His chosen creature, created in his image and given the power of thought, the ability to choose right and wrong. While the animal kingdom is here to serve us and cannot make decisions regarding morality. Why did God "program" other species to NATURALLY engage in "immoral" acts of homosexualty? This is prevelant in the insect community, and is found in the reptile kingdom as well. Either He made a mistake, or it was acceptable behavior he programmed them with, meaning modern man's interpretation of his word's is completely wrong. Take your pick there.

Of course there is always the possibility that your god, nor anyone else's, realy exists. Maybe, crazy thought here, bear with me, religions and their respective "gods" are not actually based on anything factual. Perhaps initially, they were nothing more than ways to explain events and circumstances whose real cause was at the time unknown and unexplainable by the scientific community at that time in history. The thought of Zeus sitting perched in a cloud spearing mother earth with lightening bolts to show his fury at the mortals is an excellent one, but I doubt Greek Mythology would get many followers today among, say, the American Meteorological Society.

I'm not going to deny the power of religion for an individual, I have personally seen many accounts of people overcoming fantastic obstacles by using this particular crutch. My complaint is in that they invariably give all credit for the strength it took to "god", cheating themselves out the pride they should feel for themsleves and robbing themselves from personal insight. Religion has been used in modern times to serve the above outlined purpose as well as a great tool in creating a common moral and value system on which to base and CONTROL "civilized" socities, we all also know the many ways religion has been used to justify murederous actions in the past and still today by those perverting it's purpose and meaning.

The other similar thing ANY religion offers is the answers to the three questions man has asked himself probaby since we have evolved to the point of having the ability of rational thought.

Where did I come from?
Why am I here?
What happens to me when I die?

According to your religion, you are the child of god himself, created from his intentions and actions, your inception divine in nature.
You are here to serve him and lead your life in a manner in which he outlines by his words.
If you do step 2, pass go and go straight to Heaven, you know the "downside".

It is nice to know how you personally feel, but your opinions based on your relgious feeelings should not be used to make decisions for others. Thank God for the seperation of church and state. I respect yours and anyone else's right to believe and practice whatever they want, as long as they respect mine equally.

Let me ask you about the grouper, asexual creature, has both male and female sexual organs and reporduces solitarily. What was God's purpose or meaning there?

 

[cpumaster]

Let me ask you about the grouper, asexual creature, has both male and female sexual organs and reporduces solitarily. What was God's purpose or meaning there?

maybe they're just playing with their hands

although it's a very insightful argument/thinking yet I don't think homosexual should one day become an accepted normal behaviour in our society, it's just an anomally of natural relationship between human, yet as it happens I don't think we should judge them such as by outlawing them (legislating human behaviour, bad idea) or preventing them from adopting children, as long as they are capable of raising the children and are not abusing or mistreating them...

 

[Alistar7]

"I don't think homosexual should one day become an accepted normal behaviour in our society"

What is it that you feel is unacceptable in "their" behaviour?

Personally I think bigotry should not be acceptable behaviour, as a specific example of what an INDIVIDUAL could display, although I can't think of one GROUP I can just outright LABEL as bigots so I guess I cannot say WE should not accpet "THEIR" behaviour in OUR society.

What makes their behaviour different from yours is their preference in gender for sex, not the fact that they engage in such acts of pleasure. What is the negative aspect on socitey of two people giving and recieving pleasure from one another? If that type of behaviour is harmfull or should be unnacceptable, it should be for all people, regardless of who they are engaging in such unacceptable behaviour with.