To buy vonage IPO or not: that is the question.

captains

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was to short notice for me to even look at it

also i know nothing about stock or stock markets
 

FoBoT

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i think they want to get bought out
its all about the execs setting things up for a buyout so they can cash in on large $$$
 

manlymatt83

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
i think they want to get bought out
its all about the execs setting things up for a buyout so they can cash in on large $$$


And a buyout would be bad or good for stock holders?
 

DBL

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It seems to me that they are practically begging customers to purchase the IPO. Seems like a bad sign to me.
 

Udel

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Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Originally posted by: FoBoT
i think they want to get bought out
its all about the execs setting things up for a buyout so they can cash in on large $$$


And a buyout would be bad or good for stock holders?

Depends who is buying. :)
 

LegendKiller

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There was a previous thread on this and I argued for buying. However, after looking at their financials, it doesn't seem like a long-term hold. I haven't seen the restrictions on the stock, but if you can't sell it right away, don't buy it.

If you can, hold it to get the IPO runup, then sell it.
 

Codewiz

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
There was a previous thread on this and I argued for buying. However, after looking at their financials, it doesn't seem like a long-term hold. I haven't seen the restrictions on the stock, but if you can't sell it right away, don't buy it.

If you can, hold it to get the IPO runup, then sell it.

I was on the fence about buying. I decided against it. If you look at the market analysis and what most analyst say, it looks like it will head straight down the moment it goes public.

The question is, will they be bought out. If so, then you stand a good chance of making some solid money.

I do not believe this will be an IPO that goes up after going public.

 

DBL

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Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
There was a previous thread on this and I argued for buying. However, after looking at their financials, it doesn't seem like a long-term hold. I haven't seen the restrictions on the stock, but if you can't sell it right away, don't buy it.

If you can, hold it to get the IPO runup, then sell it.

I was on the fence about buying. I decided against it. If you look at the market analysis and what most analyst say, it looks like it will head straight down the moment it goes public.

The question is, will they be bought out. If so, then you stand a good chance of making some solid money.

I do not believe this will be an IPO that goes up after going public.

...especially if all the suckers get in on the IPO.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
There was a previous thread on this and I argued for buying. However, after looking at their financials, it doesn't seem like a long-term hold. I haven't seen the restrictions on the stock, but if you can't sell it right away, don't buy it.

If you can, hold it to get the IPO runup, then sell it.

I was on the fence about buying. I decided against it. If you look at the market analysis and what most analyst say, it looks like it will head straight down the moment it goes public.

The question is, will they be bought out. If so, then you stand a good chance of making some solid money.

I do not believe this will be an IPO that goes up after going public.

I don't know what analysts you're talking about, but the top wall st analysts have not said anything on this stock. Maybe you're talking about tech journalists from CNET. Like they know anything about the stock market :roll:

Ex-marketing costs, they have healthy margins and have a good control over costs. Watch the roadshow.

If Skype is valued at $4.1 billion and they have a fraction of revenue Vonage has, what do you think Vonage is going to be valued at?
 

JS80

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Vonage IPO is oversubscribed multiple times...sigh I won't get all my 5000 shares. But it probably means it will trade above IPO price.
 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: JS80
Vonage IPO is oversubscribed multiple times...sigh I won't get all my 5000 shares. But it probably means it will trade above IPO price.

Same here. I agree that this may not be a long term hold, but short term (first week or two) I think they will do ok. The thing that pushed me over was the amount of hype on the street about this and the BurgerKing IPO. I guess we shall see ;)
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: JS80
Vonage IPO is oversubscribed multiple times...sigh I won't get all my 5000 shares. But it probably means it will trade above IPO price.

Same here. I agree that this may not be a long term hold, but short term (first week or two) I think they will do ok. The thing that pushed me over was the amount of hype on the street about this and the BurgerKing IPO. I guess we shall see ;)

Yea, I don't intend on keeping this more than 2 days. I need the money for vegas trip this weekend anyways.
 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: kalster
so who is buying?

I put an offer in for 5000 shares, waiting until later to see how many I actually get (expecting about 1250) or so...
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: kalster
so who is buying?

I put an offer in for 5000 shares, waiting until later to see how many I actually get (expecting about 1250) or so...

It's in round lots of 100, so if you subscribed for 5k, minimum you'll get is 1300 :p

Conditional Offer : 5,000 Shares
Your Allocation: The allocations have not been made. Please check back soon.

ARRRRGHGGHGHG
 

bsobel

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Oops, had to log out and log back in. Got 1300 also. So now good luck to both of us ;)