To Anyone who thinks Pot is safe

[Ns1]

well first off, teh first time it sounds like he was doing way more than pot

i'm sorry, pot doesn't make you hallucinate/dellusional

sounds like he was tripping on other psychadellics

second, it sounds like he's found himself/cleansing his soul/whatever, and he's happy, something that a lot of people (myself included) wish they could do


he's happy, leave him be

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I don't smoke weed because it's bad for the lungs, not because of it's effects on the brain.

Occasional exposure isn't bad. It's also been theorized and, iirc, "proven" by a study (though researchers on either side of any issue tend to "find out" what they're paid to find out) that nearly all tobacco-related cancer is due to tobacco being slightly radioactive, a trait it doesn't share with pot, rather than anything to do with smoke itself.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: hevnsnt

Thanks but you are way off.

Listen, I am not saying that pot is only to blame.. I have in the past realized that each person is responsible for their own actions, and yes my brother is to blame for his current situation. However, I cannot (or will not) give up on the fact that pot helped him in his race to fvck himself.

So if your brother or anyone else decided to stick thumbtacks in his eyes instead of smoking pot, would you have posted, "To anyone who thinks thumbtacks are safe...You are FVCKING RETARDED"? No. You have fallen into the FUD that has been spread over the years that "Pot kills." It is very stupid, and 90% of rational thinking people can see through it quite easily. But there is always that other 10%..


I suppose that I need to post the obligatory: "I don't smoke weed and never have." There.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I don't smoke weed because it's bad for the lungs, not because of it's effects on the brain.

Occasional exposure isn't bad. It's also been theorized and, iirc, "proven" by a study (though researchers on either side of any issue tend to "find out" what they're paid to find out) that nearly all tobacco-related cancer is due to tobacco being slightly radioactive, a trait it doesn't share with pot, rather than anything to do with smoke itself.

lol i smoke and i think that this is straight BS. smoke definately does NOT belong in the lungs. But hey, i'm willing to take that risk and i don't think anybody else should tell me otherwise.


like somebody said in an earlier post, it's all about taking responsibility for your actions...

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I don't smoke weed because it's bad for the lungs, not because of it's effects on the brain.

Occasional exposure isn't bad. It's also been theorized and, iirc, "proven" by a study (though researchers on either side of any issue tend to "find out" what they're paid to find out) that nearly all tobacco-related cancer is due to tobacco being slightly radioactive, a trait it doesn't share with pot, rather than anything to do with smoke itself.

lol i smoke and i think that this is straight BS. smoke definately does NOT belong in the lungs. But hey, i'm willing to take that risk and i don't think anybody else should tell me otherwise.


like somebody said in an earlier post, it's all about taking responsibility for your actions...

This, children, is why God made Vaporizers...

 

[Wahsapa]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I don't smoke weed because it's bad for the lungs, not because of it's effects on the brain.

Occasional exposure isn't bad. It's also been theorized and, iirc, "proven" by a study (though researchers on either side of any issue tend to "find out" what they're paid to find out) that nearly all tobacco-related cancer is due to tobacco being slightly radioactive, a trait it doesn't share with pot, rather than anything to do with smoke itself.

ya man, just use a vaporizer.

unscerwed had aspecial on marijuana and they had a whole table of vaporizers, martin actually took a hit.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I don't smoke weed because it's bad for the lungs, not because of it's effects on the brain.

Occasional exposure isn't bad. It's also been theorized and, iirc, "proven" by a study (though researchers on either side of any issue tend to "find out" what they're paid to find out) that nearly all tobacco-related cancer is due to tobacco being slightly radioactive, a trait it doesn't share with pot, rather than anything to do with smoke itself.

lol i smoke and i think that this is straight BS. smoke definately does NOT belong in the lungs. But hey, i'm willing to take that risk and i don't think anybody else should tell me otherwise.


like somebody said in an earlier post, it's all about taking responsibility for your actions...

I won't disagree with you, but someone who tokes up once a week to the tune of 2-3 bong hits isn't going to end up with emphysema, excessive phlegm, lung cancer, or anything else associated with smoke in the lungs. I've never actually used a vaporizer, can't comment on them. I'd have liked to try back when I smoked, but I haven't in ~5 years, just sorta lost interest.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: Sysadmin
There is no way just weed could fvck you up that bad. You said his heart was racing....I wouldn't doubt if he was doing meth and cocaine. I would force your brother to get help. If you don't he will die a young man.


Sysadmin

Cocaine wouldn't cause that kind gibberish.

No but it does cause you heart to race....Who knows he is probably dropping some pretty wicked acid.


Sysadmin

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

is there any link to smoking pot and decreased sexual desire?

 

[Kaiser__Sose]

Originally posted by: hevnsnt
As some of you may know (or may not) my family has been through some rough times. We lost both my Mother and my Grandma on Christmas '01 in 2 totally seperate and surprising incidents. I am 28 (now) and at the time was dating a very supportive and awesome girl. (who I then married of course) My brother who is 23 (now) is a music major and has always messed around with pot and stuff, but it was never a big deal. That is until christmas 01.

He started smoking that sh!t like crazy, messing up his mind & soul. He tried more and more of different sh!t until one day he was so fvcked up he went crazy and had mass delusions that people were after him and our family. On the way to the hospital he through his cell phone, and any other electronics that he had out the window because he believed that is how the "terrorists" were watching him.

My brother is a genious. He is honestly the smartest musician I have ever known. He can pick up any instrument and have it down to a point in a few hours. In fact he has taken over peoples places in an orchastra with an instument that he had played for the first time that day. He has been in countless newspapers, orchestras, offered many full-ride scholorships etc..

So fast-forward one year after he checked himself in. He came out clean, moved in with my dad for a year to remove himself from the old crowd. He would come and visit and you could tell he was so clean cut again, finally he was back to his old self.

He has always been a free spirit, going to obsure places to learn cultural influences of music from some awesome places. He has gone to africa twice to learn african beats, and currently he is in Trinidad Tobago to learn caribbian beats.

Well FVCKING POT SUCKED HIM BACK IN

Read these two emails I recieved from him. ON THE SAME DAY.

Thanks,
This past weekend I have been living in the NOrthern Mountain Range of
Trinidad in the Jungle, working and learning from the Arawak and Oleah Tribes, rough
rough. But this experience will forever change how I view the world and land upon
which I live. Gunda Harewood (my tour guide) is building a house in La Feelit (what a
name). Since I work for free, she uses me. The lanscape surfices all things,
heart, mind, and even soul if you don't watch yourself. Please send a prayer for me, I
am safe, but doing cultural "research" observation. If you don't believe in
yourself and God, you could go lost easily up there in Space as they call at home.
Real bushmen, with a little city flavor, story tellers, african mystics, herbalist, god
seekers, peacefull until met with natural resistance, bounty hunters! The bicycle
will be back by Wednesday, city life you would get locked up for it, the jungle
they would just lash you! I read the Koran for the first time this weekend, strong and
powerfull book, though I know in my heart I pray to my mother, Not a man.
Mother Earth they call it, our heavinly father.

Thanks and Health,
your son
[my brother]

Wow oh wow what a relaxed day next to the internet cafe. I have been
trying to fix and update Gunda's computer for her all day after getting
back my bike for the last time, this morning at the woodbrook police
station, the problam is not that I am too trusting, just that I don't
sometimes see. Nice uh, living well in time is nice. Keep one rope in
one hand and the next in the other, like sticks. Look up and try to fix
one on one and the other on the other, the stars. Watch and Listen to
what you can not physically do, I have seen skwinted pictures, I love
life.

After these emails, my dad called him, and asked him if he is back on drugs. Well if you took the time to read his emails, you can take a wild guess, yes he is. He complained to my dad that his heart is always racing, and I am concerned about my brothers health.

I couldn't handle losing my brother, he is the last family I have left.

So everytime you come in here talking about pot and I get pissed off, here is why. I can't stand watching idle why he (and you) kill yourselves.

[cliff notes]
Don't do drugs

My brother is

Trinidad is the WRONG place to go if you are trying to get off drugs... ahahaha
no joke.. and what is he doing there ???? does he have friends there?? is he there by himself???
I'm from trinidad and you don't want to be a stranger there... Kidnapping is a business in Trinidad..
he should watch out.. especially if he is strung out on drugs... and life is cheap there.. i've SEEN a man get killed for 25cents... and i've seen a man get stabbed in his chest and heart multiple times for $1 (20cents US).. it's not even funny...
hopefully he is with a tourist group or something or has friends who are from Trinidad..

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: XietyCOM

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Water causes more deaths annually than marijuana.

you need water to survive. you don't need marijuana to survive.

"Water" is a slang term for laced weed with wicked chemicals. It will fry your brain out!



Sysadmin

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
is there any link to smoking pot and decreased sexual desire?

Good god no, it makes you incredibly horny

Sex stoned is one of life's finest pleasures.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
is there any link to smoking pot and decreased sexual desire?

maybe you'd be too lazy to get laid but i really doubt it lol

 

[Kaiser__Sose]

Originally posted by: Sysadmin

Originally posted by: brigden

Originally posted by: Sysadmin
There is no way just weed could fvck you up that bad. You said his heart was racing....I wouldn't doubt if he was doing meth and cocaine. I would force your brother to get help. If you don't he will die a young man.


Sysadmin

Cocaine wouldn't cause that kind gibberish.

No but it does cause you heart to race....Who knows he is probably dropping some pretty wicked acid.


Sysadmin

acid is not big in Trinidad.. in fact.. i don't think i've ever heard of acid being down there...
all people do there is Crack, coke and Weed..
i'm pretty sure that if he got weed in Trinidad it's 90% gonna be press or some other ish that's laced with coke or other crap.. they always lace weed (espeically the cheap crap) with crack down there.
and there are a LOT of crack head street kids that are strung up.. it's pretty sad.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
How come all the pot smokers I know are successful professionals? Oh wait, it's because I don't hang out with losers. Pot has nothing to do with it. Granted they do smoke in moderation. But that's how it is with everything in life. And no, I don't smoke weed.

Well Said...


Self control is where it is at!


Sysadmin

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Sysadmin

Originally posted by: XietyCOM

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Water causes more deaths annually than marijuana.

you need water to survive. you don't need marijuana to survive.

"Water" is a slang term for laced weed with wicked chemicals. It will fry your brain out!



Sysadmin

Uh... I was actually just referring to plain old H20.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
is there any link to smoking pot and decreased sexual desire?

Good god no, it makes you incredibly horny

Sex stoned is one of life's finest pleasures.

Amen brother!!!


I used to hold out longer then a pr0n star when I was smoking weed

Sysadmin

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Sysadmin

Originally posted by: XietyCOM

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Water causes more deaths annually than marijuana.

you need water to survive. you don't need marijuana to survive.

"Water" is a slang term for laced weed with wicked chemicals. It will fry your brain out!



Sysadmin

Uh... I was actually just referring to plain old H20.

Hmm makes more sense the way I understood it

Sysadmin

 

[Whisper]

I'm too lazy to read through the other three pages of replies, so I'll just make mine:

marijuana has not been shown to cause mental illness. It's as "safe" as a cigarette inherently, or perhaps slightly moreso. It's not exactly good for your body, but it at least has less tar and carcinogens than a regular cigarette (from what I understand, anyway).

In terms of your brother, the same thing happened to a very close friend of mine. However, I don't blame it on the weed. When he smokes, his schizophrenia gets worse, but I don't feel that the drugs caused its onset. Schizophrenia (which your brother possibly has) generally has an onset of anywhere from adolescence to mid-20's, and has many inherently genetic factors. It does seem to affect many individuals that are artistically minded (my friend is an amazing painter).

To say that marijuana causes the condition is to jump to conclusions. There are thousands of other factors that could have contributed to the illness's onset. Hell, who knows, maybe the marijuana stopped things from coming on earlier, you just dont know. All that can be done now is to try and identify the problem, and deal with it as best you're able. Good luck in that, and I'll be doing the same.

Edit: And just for those curious to know, the DSM does contain a few marijuana-induced disorders, such as (iirc) marijuana-induced dellusions.

 

[hevnsnt]

Originally posted by: Kaiser__Sose
Trinidad is the WRONG place to go if you are trying to get off drugs... ahahaha
no joke.. and what is he doing there ???? does he have friends there?? is he there by himself???
I'm from trinidad and you don't want to be a stranger there... Kidnapping is a business in Trinidad..
he should watch out.. especially if he is strung out on drugs... and life is cheap there.. i've SEEN a man get killed for 25cents... and i've seen a man get stabbed in his chest and heart multiple times for $1 (20cents US).. it's not even funny...
hopefully he is with a tourist group or something or has friends who are from Trinidad..

Great, no he is there by himself.. That is just how he travels.. Doesn't know a soul, and goes somewhere and meets everyone...

 

[Jzero]

I guess if you want to blame pot that is your choice, but that's just giving you a scapegoat. As others have said, there's other issues at work, and it's more likely that addiction is the symptom, not the cause.

I don't claim that pot is "safe" compared to any legal recreational drug, but it's hard to believe it caused all your brother's problems.

 

[Aleksandar]

Pot cant mess you up like that
am doing it from 14 joint every week or so one time i got crazy got a killo of it smoked 3 or more times a day
after me and my frends smoked it all nothing we all are fine still do it once a week or so

 

[AmericasTeam]

Originally posted by: Aleksandar
Pot cant mess you up like that
am doing it from 14 joint every week or so one time i got crazy got a killo of it smoked 3 or more times a day
after me and my frends smoked it all nothing we all are fine still do it once a week or so

???????
Son, you are obviously on drugs.

 

[jjones]

Sounds like your brother is having a good time. Most of that is probably due to being away from you.

Edit: Oh, and by the way, it sounds as if he's doing something a little more than smoking weed. But you go ahead and believe what you want.

 

To the OP,
How old are you?