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<< i think that this was ment not as an atack on women, but more as advise to the young folk, myself being included in that group, not to be too serious

there'll be plenty of time for that when you get older >>



YES!!! finally someone has understood what i wrote!!! >>


gregshin, I understand what you wrote; I can read too. I realize you were just giving advice, but you also bashed and generalized about women in the latter part of your post and used that to rationalize your "just have fun" advice. You sound very jaded about women and relationships after having some bad ones apparently, which I could understand. So you're just looking out for yourself. It's just sad that you think all girls are like that so you just accept that as a fact of life and resign yourself to having meaningless relationships 'cause you think that's all there is. I pity you. Ah well, to each his own.

~EDIT~

Believe it or not, some guys look for more in a girl than just poontang and actually feel like something's missing if there's only the physical intimacy. Some guys realize they want this at a younger age too, so they actually consider themselves "happy" in committed relationships. The fulfillment they get from loving and being loved by a great girl is worth the ups and downs in the relationship.
 


<< Thanks anyway, but I've been trying my damndest to avoid being young and dumb. >>



Viper, I think your life story thus far is FAR from common. You started college when you were like 12, right? That's crazy. Sounds like your "young and dumb" years must have been between the ages of 5-10 😉

-khtm-
 
I agree (in general) w/the first part of yer post gregshin. Younger people (high school/first year or 2 of college) put to much stress on themselves (not only in relationships, but in general). When you get outta college and into the "real world" you'll look back at when you were 17 and be like "Why was I so stressed out 'bout "X"?" But, ya know, hindsight is 20/20. Just don't forget to have fun. It doesn't matter if fun is getting trashed, getting laid, chillin' w/yer gf, or playin' UT 'til yer eyes bleed (to each his own, ya know?). Just remember to have fun.

Now, I disagree (strongly) with the chauvinistic tone of the rest of the thread. You look at women as children? You got burned bad, and you don't have the balls to step back up to the plate yet. That's fine. But lowering women to the status of "needy children" so you can feel better about yer "bad self"? I think you're definetly keeping w/yer "young and dumb" motto.


Lethal

 


<< kick ass post, ::sends mad props to gregshin::

heh, this is definately gonna stike a nerve with some people (chicks for example) ahahhahaha >>



Aww, how cute, you guys actually think that women care what men like you think of us? Thats just adorable! 🙂
 
Remember that women are people too. I recently met this girl from this campus club I'm in and I randomly ran into her and a friend during lunch. We got into this discussion about how she doesn't really trust men anymore and she's afraid that when she meets a new guy that he will end up hurting her. I mean you know this stuff goes on, but it's kind of sobering when this beautiful girl is telling you how she's afraid of getting hurt again because of the selfish guys who are out there. 🙁
 
I agree wholeheartedly with the post and I think alot of others would also had it been worded a little differently. We are made to think that once you hit your twenties, either your married or in a relationship or your a hellion that will never settle down. I think this is especially an issue with parents. Both men and women are put under so much pressure to marry and start a family that we sometimes forget to just enjoy life for what it is until it is too late.
 
Women are almost always two-faced and dishonest. Say one thing and think another. They concoct grandiose plans in their mind, but never let you in on it. Then when you don't follow through on the plans that you never knew about, they get on your case. There's nothing more wasteful of human energy on this planet than male/female relationships. If everybody was single I think we, the human race, would be a lot more advanced than we currently are.

Chris
Single and proud
 
trust me there is no better thing then being single and having that freedom of doing what you when you want. The best times of my life were being single and hanging out with the boys going clubbing, drinking, vacationing, and just causing trouble.

For YOU that is the best time. FOr others it's not. What about people sick of the bar scene who want to be in a stable relationship? My brother had a stable relationship for about 3 years and recently did just what you said in a big way. He hated it and wanted his old girlfriend back; they are now back together and after 6 months of that scene he is way happier. There is a reason why people put in effort in relationships - because being 35 and still "clubbing & getting on with chicks for a one night stand" (yes some people still do that) is nothing short of immensely pathetic.
 


<< because being 35 and still "clubbing & getting on with chicks for a one night stand" (yes some people still do that) is nothing short of immensely pathetic. >>

Uh oh, the jealous meter is off the charts!
 


<< Women are almost always two-faced and dishonest. Say one thing and think another. They concoct grandiose plans in their mind, but never let you in on it. Then when you don't follow through on the plans that you never knew about, they get on your case. There's nothing more wasteful of human energy on this planet than male/female relationships. If everybody was single I think we, the human race, would be a lot more advanced than we currently are.

Chris
Single and proud >>



Holy sh*t. You're my new hero. It's like you read my f*cking mind, man! Good stuff!
 


<< Women will always be there...they ain't going no where right???!!! All i'm saying is that all that heart ache is NOT worth it...KEEP yourself happy and then when you're ready go ahead and make that commitment....but remember no matter what you do...girls will always want something more after you're given them what they want...spending quality time or gifts...they will always want more... >>



Wrong. When you're ready to make that committment, all the girls who are the type that want committment (aka all the ones that aren't hanging out in bars waiting for you to use them) won't give you a second glance because of your attitude. You've spent your entire life learning how to 'KEEP yourself happy' and the switch into a serious relationship where you care enough about someone to try and make them happy isn't just going to happen. Go ahead, train yourself to be a drunk, self-centered, user type of guy and then see what happens. Sure, the girls will always want something more, because you have no idea how to give them what they want in terms of a relationship, that's obvious enough right now.

Now that I've said all that... I agree that when you are young, do make friends with the opposite sex. Have fun, hang out, don't twist yourself up over relationships because they aren't and shouldn't be too serious most of the time. You've gotta learn who you are and howt to be independent before you can be in a relationship.
 


<< all the girls who are the type that want committment >>



that's a bunch of BS. you can't generalize every woman like that. there's bound to be 100,000 that have the same opinion on relationships as gregshin.

-khtm-
 


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<< Women will always be there...they ain't going no where right???!!! All i'm saying is that all that heart ache is NOT worth it...KEEP yourself happy and then when you're ready go ahead and make that commitment....but remember no matter what you do...girls will always want something more after you're given them what they want...spending quality time or gifts...they will always want more... >>



Wrong. When you're ready to make that committment, all the girls who are the type that want committment (aka all the ones that aren't hanging out in bars waiting for you to use them) won't give you a second glance because of your attitude. You've spent your entire life learning how to 'KEEP yourself happy' and the switch into a serious relationship where you care enough about someone to try and make them happy isn't just going to happen. Go ahead, train yourself to be a drunk, self-centered, user type of guy and then see what happens. Sure, the girls will always want something more, because you have no idea how to give them what they want in terms of a relationship, that's obvious enough right now.

Now that I've said all that... I agree that when you are young, do make friends with the opposite sex. Have fun, hang out, don't twist yourself up over relationships because they aren't and shouldn't be too serious most of the time. You've gotta learn who you are and howt to be independent before you can be in a relationship. >>



Finally some sense!!! 🙂 HotChic has hit it right on the head
 


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<< all the girls who are the type that want committment >>



that's a bunch of BS. you can't generalize every woman like that. there's bound to be 100,000 that have the same opinion on relationships as gregshin.

-khtm- >>



Um, dude, I think you misread what HotChic said. It's "all the girls who are the type that want committment" Not "all girls want committment."


Lethal
 


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<< all the girls who are the type that want committment >>



that's a bunch of BS. you can't generalize every woman like that. there's bound to be 100,000 that have the same opinion on relationships as gregshin.

-khtm- >>



Okay, I'll change my generalization. All the girls who I've ever met, heard of, or heard rumors about, that are the type that want commitment... 😉
 


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<< kick ass post, ::sends mad props to gregshin::

heh, this is definately gonna stike a nerve with some people (chicks for example) ahahhahaha >>



Aww, how cute, you guys actually think that women care what men like you think of us? Thats just adorable! 🙂 >>



Splutter,choke... Thanks for the laugh GF ,I almost choked to death on my dinner reading your remark 😀
 
<< because being 35 and still "clubbing & getting on with chicks for a one night stand" (yes some people still do that) is nothing short of immensely pathetic. >>

Uh oh, the jealous meter is off the charts!

Not at all, bobber! If a 35 year old clubber doesn't watch it he'll be a 50 year old burn out whining about women and wondering if he'll ever have sex again as he eats his TV dinner and opens yet another beer, one of the few enjoyments in his empty and unfulfilling life.
 


<< Um, dude, I think you misread what HotChic said. It's "all the girls who are the type that want committment" Not "all girls want committment." >>

And the type of girls who want commitment are the same type as the ones that I'm talking about. I'll take a non-commitment woman over a commitment prone woman anyday.
 


<< Not at all, bobber! If a 35 year old clubber doesn't watch it he'll be a 50 year old burn out whining about women and wondering if he'll ever have sex again as he eats his TV dinner and opens yet another beer, one of the few enjoyments in his empty and unfulfilling life. >>

You're young and married Skoorb. Check back in 25 years and let us know how much sex your having. It'll be about as much as the 50 year old single guy. Only difference is that you won't be slugging beers to mask the depression. You'll be doing it to drown out the wife and kids so you don't have to hear the endless b1tching and whining, and to help you forget about the life you wasted as a wage slave to buy your wife and kids all the things they're unappreciative of but just HAD to have, otherwise they'd be miserable.

Bitter? Me? You're goddam right.
 
Bitter? Me? You're goddam right. You hide it well 😉

You're right that many marriages turn out that way, but certainly not all of them. I really don't think things will turn out that way and not just because of wishful thinking that all people seem to have but based upon the fact that our relationship is better than most/all I've ever observed elsewhere so if anyone is gonna have a good marriage it's going to be us!
 
I agree with Skoorb. You guys can't generalize marriage relationships like that. It is what you make it, and by you I mean plural. It's between you and the person you marry, so marry the right person- one who shares your perception of what you want your marriage to be like and where you want your lives together to go.
 


<< damn....did i start something? i just wanted the youngins to hear me out and have fun 😉 >>


Please, if that's all you wanted then what's with all the girl bashing BS? I agree just like everyone else with your point of having fun but your derogatory generalizations about girls was totally uncalled for, doesn't justify your advice, and isn't something I can take lightly. :|
 
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