TNT Logistics! ARE THEY A SCAM!??!?!?

A Scream

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Ok, Is TNT Logistics a viable 3rd party type organization. I've made a purchase and the person gave it to TNT and it is now my turn to give them the money, via a Western Union Agent Transfer. In the email I recieved from them they said not to make the transfer via the online stuff.

Here's an email:

Hello Mr.Matthew Dieffenderfer

We want to inform you that the seller of the DELL INSPIRON XPS GEN 2 2.13G 2GB 100GB DVD+RW PRO,is ready with his part of the transaction.The merchandice is in our custody.Now you will have to go at the Western Union Post Office and make the transfer of the $$$$.$$ on the agent name and address that we give to you .


First name: name
Last name: last name
Address: address
City/State: address
PostalCode: zip
Country: United States


After you will make the transfer send us the folling information:

Sender's name and address of the money.
Receiver's name and address of the money.
MTCN# (Money Transfer Control Number)
Total money you have sent in US$.

When we will recive this information we will start the delivery to you and you will have 3 days to inspect the merchandice from the moment that you recive it.If the merchandice is not like the seller told you please contact us and let us know and the money will be refund to you and the seller must pay the shipping to get the merchandice back from you.

You will have 24 hours to send us the transfer information.

Thank you for using our services.
Manager.Alfredo



Here's another:










Welcome to TNT United States. Our company is the European market leader in global express and international mail services



TNT Express reduces risks associated with Internet transactions by acting as a licensed,trusted,neutral third party for on-line transactions. The seller leaves the merchandise into TNT Express custody. The merchandise will remain in TNT Express custody until the buyer provides the payment informations to TNT Express . The payment will be made through a Money Order Service. Once the funds are verified by TNT Express , the merchandise will be send to the buyer. Once the buyer receives the merchandise, the payment informations will be released to the seller only if th e buyer is com pletely satisfied with the merchandise. If the buyer will not be satisfied with the merchandise, TNT Express will send the merchandise back to the seller.



Address Information
Ship To:

First name name

Last name name
Address address
City/State address
PostalCode zip
Country United States


Shipper:

First name electronics99

Last name electronics99
Address P.O. Box
City/State place
PostalCode zip
Country United States






Shipment Information


Service TNT Express

Delivered By 2 days
Shipment ID 646T03TTMNF
ActualWeight -------
BillableWeight -------
Description DELL INSPIRON XPS





Package Details:


DELL INSPIRON XPS

Shipping: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
**79.44



Package Information

Package 1 of 1 Package Type: TNT ECONOMY EXPRESS BOX



Billing Information for the Shipment






Payment Method: American Express XXXX-2007

Total: All currencies in US **79.44







TNT*Through this e-mail we have the pleasure to inform you that the merchandise has been left in our custody. The shipping fee was paid by the Seller. The Payment Informations about the Western Union Money Transfer must be sent to us for verification. The Payment Informations that you need to send to us are: Money Transfer Control Number, Sender's Name and Sender's Address and Receiver's Name and Receiver's Address.The Seller is unable to receive any information regarding the payment data. This action is restricted by a mutual agreement between the Seller and TNT .

Agent Receiver of the Payment

First name name
Last name name
Address address
City/State address
PostalCode zip
Country United States






Please send us the payment information in this email address:
tnt-shipping-company-tnt@europe.com




TNT*Do not contact us by phone!!! We understand your desire to speak with someone on the phone. However, please understand that TNT's primary focus is to provide support to our community through the most efficient methods available. We have found that providing email and Internet support allows us to give quick, reliable, and consistent answers to questions and concerns. Using email also allows us to document what was communicated in previous emails to you and to avoid duplica tion of responses.
Phone support simply does not serve our members'needs as well as email does.

Warning!!! The payment must not be made using Western Union's Send Money Online Service due to the high fraud risk. We will not confirm any payments made online. The payment must be made at one of Western Union's Agent Locations, in person by the Buyer.










Intellectual and other property rights to the information contained in this site are held by TNT Holding B.V. with all rights reserved ? 200


Thanks for ya help!
 

Future Shock

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TNT Logistics IS a well-known express company, but there is no way I would do a Western Union transfer to ANYBODY I didn't know. You are not covered by any protection whatsoever.

It is highly likely that someone is using their name as a front for a fraud. Legitimate businesses can usually process via credit card, bank transfers, or paypal. Each of these transactions takes place in a known environment where you can identify the recipient of your money, in court if necessary (even paypal, as you have to register your bank details to recieve).

But WU requires none of that...and charges a whopping transaction fee. No legitimate business uses them AFAIK.

FS
 

bwnv

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I would at least expect that a REALlogistics company would at least use spell check for e-mails to customers.
 

A Scream

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thanks for your help future shock. I did some more searching and found out that TNT does not hold packages.
 

surreal1221

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TNT logistics is actually a very great company to do business with. Unfortunately, I'm not too sure about this scam. lol
 

Future Shock

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Wow - we all really missed some great points in those emails (I love scams, so I went back to read it now that I know OP is OK):
1) "Phone support does not server our members needs as well as email" (So no calls, please)
2) "payment informations will be released to the seller only if th e buyer is com pletely satisfied with the merchandise" (how many typing/spelling mistakes can there BE??)
3) "Thank you for using our services.
Manager.Alfredo " (OMFG - what a sign-off...no last name, a cheesy first name...)

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST:
4) Please send us the payment information in this email address:
tnt-shipping-company-tnt@europe.com

OMG - IT'S NOT EVEN A TNTLOGISTICS.COM OR TNT.COM MAILSERVER!!!

Whew....

FS