Originally posted by: lo5750ul
Originally posted by: psxjunky
As much of a Tivo fan and proponet I am ... I am NEVER going to upgrade to series 2 Tivo (or any newer series) until and unless they provide an option to extract video from the unit (or at least don't explicitly prevent that ... as they are doing with series 2).
I am perfectly happy with my current 240 hr Series 1 Tivo with a TurboNET card and will keep on extracting video to my hearts content for some more time to come !
This is the only reason I recently bought a ReplayTV despite its many problems. And if Tivo keeps on maintaining their current opposition to video extraction, they aren't going to get much business from me in the future :disgust:
SonicBlue (ReplayTV manufacturer) is being sued by many of the media companies partly because of the ability to easily extract video files.
I believe what you are doing is breaking copyright, but do not hold me to that. This is the reason that Tivo does not promote the ability to extract video - to help keep the media monsters eyes off of them.
Not exactly. SonicBlue is being sued for their Internet Show Sharing feature as well as the CommercialAdvance feature (which automatically skips over *most* commercials) ... and it has still not been determined if these features are truly illegal (there hasn't been any judgement in this case as far as I know).
I am not saying Tivo needs to implement the internet show sharing capability ... as long as they allow me to extract and archive video (that I recorded myself) in any format I want, I will be a happy camper. Heck, they even explicitly allow you to save shows on a video tape ! Why not let me create my own DVDs ?
Finally, I am not even saying that Tivo explicitly needs to allow people to directly extract shows from their units (although that would be ideal) ... as long as they don't put measures to explicitly
prevent extraction, I'll stop complaining !
It is not illegal to archive shows for yourself that you want to view later. It is probably not even illegal to share network shows (ABC, PBS, NBC etc that anyone can get for free with an over-the-air antenna). What is illegal is sharing shows from premium channels (HBO, ShowTime etc) with someone that doesn't subscribe to these channels.
Anyway, I am pretty sure that Tivo's "military grade" encryption on the Series-2 units will soon be broken, but I am not giving a single dime of my money to a company like Tivo that kisses up the big networks by screwing their customers.
If SonicBlue is put out of business, I'll just go the ATI AIW route with my HTPC
