My brother just gave me the box for free since he now has DVR. He was paying a subscription, but isnt there an option for a lifetime subscription? If so, that is what they have i think. Anyways, he gave it to me and i am going to hook it up at my apartment tonight. Is there any way that you guys/gals know of to stay on their account and not have to pay the $12 a month or whatever it is? I am trying to find a way where i can get a discounted price since i already have the box and it has already been subscribed to tivo for ~2 yrs