Originally posted by: axiom
Originally posted by: Parrotheader
Having to pay that monthly subscription was one of the reasons (not necessarily the main one) that caused me to go to Dish when I was making the switch from cable to satellite. Dish Network threw in a 60 hour PVR for $50 and there's no monthly charge for their guide data. Granted, it might not have the level of sophistication that Tivo has with learning your viewing habits, etc, but it's more than enough for my needs.
I agree. The deals that combine either Directv, Dish or Digital Cable with the PVR capabilities are usually the best. I only looked at external TiVO devices when I was interested in hacking them to export the digital recordings.
But remember this: DirecTivo boxes can only record DirecTV content. So if you get your local channels with an antenna or cable, you cannot record them on the DirecTivo box.
This is why I love the HDTV DirecTV boxes, because you can intergrate your antenna and/or cable channels into the guide. And if you add a separate Tivo or Replay box and connect it to it's own EXTERNAL dedicated DirecTV receiver, you can record all content, Sat, Cable, and Ant. AND watch another show at the same time.
IMHO, this is the best way to set up a DVR while using Sat and cable or antenna:
A main Sat box (In my case, HD-Sat) and an el-cheapo Sat box dedicated to the DVR player. Let the DVR player have exclusive control over the cheap Sat box, and split your cable/antenna into both your DVR player, and you HD Sat box.
Granted, this means you'll have to run two Sat cables to the same area, but you already should be doing that with DirecTivo boxes because they have two sat tuners in them.