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Titan V announced, $3000 volta gpu

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Krteq said:
Well, this was a case of first Titan/Titan Black. Titan X (Maxwell) was really bad in compute and nV itself doesn't know how to market it (Is it a gaming card or not?), but fans buys it anyway... so who cares 😀
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Actually the Titan X(p) sold stupidly well to compute customers. NVIDIA couldn't keep the original Titan X in stock when the compute market was blowing up, and the two Pascal versions have sold similarly well. They're really popular with developers and companies who need to run small-scale inferencing.

It definitely doesn't hurt that the previous Titans made good gaming cards as well. But NV could sell them exclusively to compute customers and still end the day with a wallet overflowing with cash.
 
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ViRGE said:
Actually the Titan X(p) sold stupidly well to compute customers. NVIDIA couldn't keep the original Titan X in stock when the compute market is blowing up, and the two Pascal versions have sold similarly well. They're really popular with developers and companies who need to run small-scale inferencing.

It definitely doesn't hurt that the previous Titans made good gaming cards as well. But NV could sell them exclusively to compute customers and still end the day with a wallet overflowing with cash.
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Where are you getting your sales figures? I originally bought a pascal titan x on the expectation that it could be resold for a profit due to low availability but it basically never went out of stock after the first day and ebay prices never got much above retail.
 
pj- said:
Where are you getting your sales figures? I originally bought a pascal titan x on the expectation that it could be resold for a profit due to low availability but it basically never went out of stock after the first day and ebay prices never got much above retail.
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It's something I caught on the AnandTech Twitter feed a couple of years back. As I recall, compute customers were asking AnandTech editors both via email and in person where to get more Maxwell Titan Xs.
 
Yeah, unless the drivers are really poorly optimized for gaming right now I'd guess we're looking at a Fiji-like design here; far more in the way of compute and shader power than ROPs.
 
Muhammed said:
They benched with an I7 3960X @3.9GHZ. They are CPU bottlenecked.
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Ugh, this is what happens when lesser sites recycle their GPU benchmarks for years and years never retesting and instead copy pasting the results: a $3000 state of the art GPU tested on a low clocked Sandy Bridge.
 
amenx said:
I dont think so. Well not much at 1440p and especially at 2160p. Certainly bottleneck at 1080p, which is probably why they didnt include that res.
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Look at the differences between cards at the top, it's so minimal, GTX 1080 is almost as fast as a TitanXP and 1080Ti. They are massively CPU bottelenecked.
 
Just go and browse some Geekbench OpenCL compute results on the Titan V. Almost 2x as fast as the GTX 1080(as well as Vega FE) showing very good scaling - twice as many cores(5120/2560), twice the score.
 
Nvidia are brilliant in their branding over the years, they know how and when to milk the shit out of consumers. Coming out with a Titan-branded card based on their big HPC die (something they haven't done for many years) and throwing it up for $3k brings out the whales who simply can't have anything less than TIIIITTAAAANNNNN.
 
Ok... so this is looking like the cooling for this card is woefully and completely inadequate


This card is a furnace, so why didn't nvidia do a watercooled version to address this big problem like AMD? Especially at a $3,000 price point?
 
Yakk said:
Ok... so this is looking like the cooling for this card is woefully and completely inadequate


This card is a furnace, so why didn't nvidia do a watercooled version to address this big problem like AMD? Especially at a $3,000 price point?
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Because they are saving that for next month with a price tag of $4995. Got to sell the $3000 version first then sell the same card to the same people again for more. 🙂 Anyone else find it rather odd that we have this Volta card but virtually no info on GV102/4/6 level cards?
 
I have a problem with the Gamers' Nexus testing - mainly it's that they only tested 3D Mark and not any compute benchmark that this card is really intended for.
 
Yakk said:
That would make the cooler good?
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Cooler is already good enough for keeping the hot air out of the system when you have a number of these together in a compute server. Blower cards are designed for that purpose.

Noise is also not much of an issue since most of these will get accessed remotely via SSH anyway.
 
tamz_msc said:
Cooler is already good enough for keeping the hot air out of the system when you have a number of these together in a compute server. Blower cards are designed for that purpose.

Noise is also not much of an issue since most of these will get accessed remotely via SSH anyway.
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Why use a very fancy "gamer" type shroud if these are supposed to be going in rack servers then? The 60 dB would be ok in a rack environment, but then why the bling?
 
Yakk said:
Why use a very fancy "gamer" type shroud if these are supposed to be going in rack servers then? The 60 dB would be ok in a rack environment, but then why the bling?
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It's exactly the same shroud as before except for the different color. There's not much bling that can be added to a blower card anyway, and not that it matters much to those who'll be buying these for actual work.
 
The cooler is sufficient and reliable. An open-air design, with 3 fans would have more points of failure and an AIO water cooler even more so (not to mention the tubes running through the case and the need for a fan mounting slot). The blower designs work best in crowded environments as well.

However, a better cooling solution might give the card a 10% or thereabouts performance boost, useful for a typical PC setup. It is a trade off. It would be nice if they offered a liquid cooled version for the same price or $100 more.
 
tamz_msc said:
Cooler is already good enough for keeping the hot air out of the system when you have a number of these together in a compute server. Blower cards are designed for that purpose.
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If you're referring to the V100 Tesla implementations, the entire designs are completely different and the clocks for core and memory aren't the same either. This is the first implementation of V100 into this kind of standard blower GPU form factor.
tamz_msc said:
It's exactly the same shroud as before except for the different color.
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As before on what? A Titan? That was in the last previous generations are much smaller hybrid HPC/rendering chip and not the high end HPC chip?
 
I personally don't see how this can be considered an adequate cooler. The cooler was tested in pretty much the best case scenario (open bench, fresh cool air), and it's not able to maintain its peak clocks consistently. In a server where it's going to get warmer incoming air, and likely be crowded by other hot GPUs, I don't see how a case can be made for it maintaining peak performance with the currently equipped cooler.
 
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