"Tired of the Wet Backs?"

[HammerCurl]

Originally posted by: Aharami
never heard that term before

Carlos Mencia (Even though he's Honduran and German, but thats another story), calls Hispanics wetbacks and beaners. It's along the same lines as Blacks calling eachother n*ggers. And someone else in the thread mentioned the South Park future people episode calling them goo backs( THEY TOOK RRR JERRRBS!) Anyway, the word has national exposure, at least from comedy central. And its definitely supposed to be derragotory.

 

[nace186]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: nace186

Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan
The bottom line...no one really knows if there was motive behind the ad or if it was just bad wording. All these people that got their panties in a wad over the words used in the ad are nothing more than attention-whores.

All these people posting on this thread about how derogatory and offensive these "words" are have no fear of getting hurt by them. If you do get hurt by them, you have deeper-seeded issues and need psychological counseling.

I live in an area clearly divided by historical racism; black and white. I have a black wife and we get it from both sides of the fence. We get words thrown from whites and words thrown from blacks. You want to know something? They're just words and they can't hurt you.

The manager of this car dealership lost his job because it made some thin-skinned, attention-whoring fucks feel bigger and badder because they now were the savior of their race. They got rid of one more racist, hate-monger by bringing to light the apparent hate and racism this guy must have deep within him. I think not. All they did was plant seeds and drive the wedge deeper between races. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton do this all the time in their quest for "racial equality". Just as these so-called "Hispanic leaders" didn't have racial-equality on their minds when they brought this to light. There won't be any ground-breaking revelations in racial-equality to come from this.

A previous poster said it right when they posted that any race can say anything blatantly derogotory or even perceived as derogotory about any white person and be protected. When a white person says anything even remotely perceived as derogotory at any time about any other race they are labeled a bigot and hate-monger. That is happening in this case.

Personally, the ad was "meh". I chuckled a bit and thought it was clever with the possible double entendre but that's all. No racism...no hate...no bigotry.

:thumbsup:


Exactly.

At the end of the day, words are just words. There's nothing meaningful to it, unless you give it to them.

I feel if people stop catching feeling on words, the world would be much better place.

OK then, fuck face.

Ok, wet back.

 

[Kaspian]

LMAO thats some funny sh1t!:laugh: Someone fcked up big time by hitting the "send" buttom without proof reading the text.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: nace186

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: nace186

Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan
The bottom line...no one really knows if there was motive behind the ad or if it was just bad wording. All these people that got their panties in a wad over the words used in the ad are nothing more than attention-whores.

All these people posting on this thread about how derogatory and offensive these "words" are have no fear of getting hurt by them. If you do get hurt by them, you have deeper-seeded issues and need psychological counseling.

I live in an area clearly divided by historical racism; black and white. I have a black wife and we get it from both sides of the fence. We get words thrown from whites and words thrown from blacks. You want to know something? They're just words and they can't hurt you.

The manager of this car dealership lost his job because it made some thin-skinned, attention-whoring fucks feel bigger and badder because they now were the savior of their race. They got rid of one more racist, hate-monger by bringing to light the apparent hate and racism this guy must have deep within him. I think not. All they did was plant seeds and drive the wedge deeper between races. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton do this all the time in their quest for "racial equality". Just as these so-called "Hispanic leaders" didn't have racial-equality on their minds when they brought this to light. There won't be any ground-breaking revelations in racial-equality to come from this.

A previous poster said it right when they posted that any race can say anything blatantly derogotory or even perceived as derogotory about any white person and be protected. When a white person says anything even remotely perceived as derogotory at any time about any other race they are labeled a bigot and hate-monger. That is happening in this case.

Personally, the ad was "meh". I chuckled a bit and thought it was clever with the possible double entendre but that's all. No racism...no hate...no bigotry.

:thumbsup:


Exactly.

At the end of the day, words are just words. There's nothing meaningful to it, unless you give it to them.

I feel if people stop catching feeling on words, the world would be much better place.

OK then, fuck face.

Ok, wet back.

Hey! What's with the personal attack?!

 

[911paramedic]

Originally posted by: MrPickins
LOL!
I'm surprised I haven't heard about it in the local news.

For those that don't know, beautiful ray of sunshine refers to people who illegally crossed the Rio Grande, and is considered extremely offensive to hispanics here in TX.

Fixed.

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: 911paramedic

Originally posted by: MrPickins
LOL!
I'm surprised I haven't heard about it in the local news.

For those that don't know, beautiful ray of sunshine refers to people who illegally crossed the Rio Grande, and is considered extremely offensive to hispanics here in TX.

Fixed.

Irrelevant.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: HammerCurl
I like how there's 4 question marks at the end of backs. And "Wet Backs" is capitalized in the ad. No way it was going to be a sent out advertisement. Someone was probably f'in around and hit send on accident from the joking advertisement.

Bullshit. The ad is for air conditioned seats. Without the air conditioned seats, in hot weather, what would your back tend to do? Sweat? Would that cause it to get wet? And what would you call a back that was wet?

Wet Backs is capitalized because it is in a fucking headline.

If that was the case, it would have likely said

"Tired of wet backs?"

NOT

"Tired of THE Wet Backs?"


IMO, it was an inside joke gone wrong.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
This is fucking ridiculous.

Edit: The 'public outcry,' not the headline.

Almost forgot it's ok to offend Hispanics on AT.

How is this offensive to hispanics? If anything, it's offensive to backs.

I guess you wouldn't understand if you're not Hispanic.

are you Hispanic? if so, enlighten us as to why it's offensive.

Yeah I am.

Wet back refers to people who migrated from Mexico to the US via the Rio Grande. Anyways the term started to be used to identify all Mexicans by white americans (even to those that came here legally). You'll only really here this in the South western states. But like MrPickins said, Wet Back = beloved patriot/N*word/FOB/etc.

I don't see how that word can be compared to beloved patriot/N*bomb. So these people had to swim so their backs got wet. I'm not being cynical here. I just think people LOOK to get offended far too often.

How about the word beloved patriot. Do you want to tackle that one? Do you call white people Gringos from time to time?

But it's all in how the word is used. When Mexicans were being called Wet Backs it wasn't done casually, it was done with hate and malice.

alright, i understand. thanks for your point of view.
(you didn't answer my question about beloved patriot though)

beloved patriot, when spoken by most hispanics/latinos, is a derogtory word. It is the equivalent of calling them a wet back. It may not have started that way, but they are both derogatory.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: randay
If you get wet backs from car seats you need to lose some friggin weight.

holy crap!!! WOW what a awesome statement! your ignorance is beyond laughable.

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: 911paramedic

Originally posted by: MrPickins
LOL!
I'm surprised I haven't heard about it in the local news.

For those that don't know, beautiful ray of sunshine refers to people who illegally crossed the Rio Grande, and is considered extremely offensive to hispanics here in TX.

Fixed.

Irrelevant.

It's very relevant.

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: 911paramedic

Originally posted by: MrPickins
LOL!
I'm surprised I haven't heard about it in the local news.

For those that don't know, beautiful ray of sunshine refers to people who illegally crossed the Rio Grande, and is considered extremely offensive to hispanics here in TX.

Fixed.

Irrelevant.

It's very relevant.

Original use = refers to Illegal immigrants via Rio Grande

Today's ACTUAL use = refers to ALL Hispanics

So as you can see by todays standards it's irrelevant.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: MrPickins
LOL!
I'm surprised I haven't heard about it in the local news.

For those that don't know, beautiful ray of sunshine refers to people who illegally crossed the Rio Grande, and is considered extremely offensive to hispanics here in TX.

Well I consider illegal immigrants extremely offensive, so I guess we're even?

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: nace186

Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan
The bottom line...no one really knows if there was motive behind the ad or if it was just bad wording. All these people that got their panties in a wad over the words used in the ad are nothing more than attention-whores.

All these people posting on this thread about how derogatory and offensive these "words" are have no fear of getting hurt by them. If you do get hurt by them, you have deeper-seeded issues and need psychological counseling.

I live in an area clearly divided by historical racism; black and white. I have a black wife and we get it from both sides of the fence. We get words thrown from whites and words thrown from blacks. You want to know something? They're just words and they can't hurt you.

The manager of this car dealership lost his job because it made some thin-skinned, attention-whoring fucks feel bigger and badder because they now were the savior of their race. They got rid of one more racist, hate-monger by bringing to light the apparent hate and racism this guy must have deep within him. I think not. All they did was plant seeds and drive the wedge deeper between races. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton do this all the time in their quest for "racial equality". Just as these so-called "Hispanic leaders" didn't have racial-equality on their minds when they brought this to light. There won't be any ground-breaking revelations in racial-equality to come from this.

A previous poster said it right when they posted that any race can say anything blatantly derogotory or even perceived as derogotory about any white person and be protected. When a white person says anything even remotely perceived as derogotory at any time about any other race they are labeled a bigot and hate-monger. That is happening in this case.

Personally, the ad was "meh". I chuckled a bit and thought it was clever with the possible double entendre but that's all. No racism...no hate...no bigotry.

:thumbsup:


Exactly.

At the end of the day, words are just words. There's nothing meaningful to it, unless you give it to them.

I feel if people stop catching feeling on words, the world would be much better place.

Inciting racism through words does plenty of harm. It's not just the fact that people need to grow thicker skin, it's that an emotion driven campaign to put down an entire race of people will have consequences deeper than a chuckle. One of the easiest things for mankind to achieve is inciting people based on emotions instead of facts. If you encourage the discrimination of people, it sticks even in a rational society. An example of what stigma can do is the irrational fear people have of black people. The elementary school saying of sticks and stones really does not have much weight in historical terms as words can hurt just as bad if not worse than a single physical action.

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: 911paramedic

Originally posted by: MrPickins
LOL!
I'm surprised I haven't heard about it in the local news.

For those that don't know, beautiful ray of sunshine refers to people who illegally crossed the Rio Grande, and is considered extremely offensive to hispanics here in TX.

Fixed.

We already covered that. Try to keep up with the rest of us.

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: MrPickins
LOL!
I'm surprised I haven't heard about it in the local news.

For those that don't know, beautiful ray of sunshine refers to illegally crossing the Rio Grande, and is considered extremely offensive to hispanics here in TX.

Why would that be offensive? Offensive as in "drunk" instead of the PC "alcoholic"? Either way its the same thing.

This is ridiculous. I find it offensive that they find it offensive.

I grew up in south Texas where the word is used rather frequently by bigots to refer to all people of hispanic origin.

For the sake for this discussion, just think:

beautiful ray of sunshine == beloved patriot

Edit:

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: MrPickins
LOL!
I'm surprised I haven't heard about it in the local news.

For those that don't know, beautiful ray of sunshine refers to people who illegally crossed the Rio Grande, and is considered extremely offensive to hispanics here in TX.

Well I consider illegal immigrants extremely offensive, so I guess we're even?

See Above.

 

[Lithium381]

This is ridiculous, plain and simple. It could have been a translating error, someone sucks at grammar, but the point is, it was an ad for an A/C.......very clearly. If you're looking to be offended then you can find stuff all over. If the ad had been "Tired of wetbacks stealing your jobs? Buy a Winchester today and save our economy!" Well then that's clearly derogatory. Lighten up people.......at work, the hispanics that worked there used to call me beloved patriot/guero, i'd respond with "mojados". All with love. No big deal.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Lithium381
This is ridiculous, plain and simple. It could have been a translating error, someone sucks at grammar, but the point is, it was an ad for an A/C.......very clearly. If you're looking to be offended then you can find stuff all over. If the ad had been "Tired of wetbacks stealing your jobs? Buy a Winchester today and save our economy!" Well then that's clearly derogatory. Lighten up people.......at work, the hispanics that worked there used to call me beloved patriot/guero, i'd respond with "mojados". All with love. No big deal.

Oh boy, another ostrich... read the whole thread, this crap has been dealt with. Very few people, even those defending the guy, deny that it was intentional.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Lithium381
This is ridiculous, plain and simple. It could have been a translating error, someone sucks at grammar, but the point is, it was an ad for an A/C.......very clearly. If you're looking to be offended then you can find stuff all over. If the ad had been "Tired of wetbacks stealing your jobs? Buy a Winchester today and save our economy!" Well then that's clearly derogatory. Lighten up people.......at work, the hispanics that worked there used to call me beloved patriot/guero, i'd respond with "mojados". All with love. No big deal.

Translating error? From English to English?

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: Lithium381
This is ridiculous, plain and simple. It could have been a translating error, someone sucks at grammar, but the point is, it was an ad for an A/C.......very clearly. If you're looking to be offended then you can find stuff all over. If the ad had been "Tired of wetbacks stealing your jobs? Buy a Winchester today and save our economy!" Well then that's clearly derogatory. Lighten up people.......at work, the hispanics that worked there used to call me beloved patriot/guero, i'd respond with "mojados". All with love. No big deal.

This is how advertising works. They try to slip in something that will grab the attention of the target, with a defense that they think will get them out of it. Unfortunately, many haven't yet figured out that nothing gets by anyone.

It was intentional.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: MrPickins
LOL!
I'm surprised I haven't heard about it in the local news.

For those that don't know, beautiful ray of sunshine refers to people who illegally crossed the Rio Grande, and is considered extremely offensive to hispanics here in TX.

Well I consider illegal immigrants extremely offensive, so I guess we're even?

It's a brush that tars the legal hispanics, too, and leads to hate for them ALONG with the illegals.

That's not "even", unless you hate all non-white legal minorities and if you do you would have to spend the best part of every day dispensing said hate.

 

[imported_Baloo]

hmm, OK, Learn something new every day. While I have heard the term before, I never new it was a derogatory term for Hispanics. I thought it pertained to Navy divers.

 

[Lithium381]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Lithium381
This is ridiculous, plain and simple. It could have been a translating error, someone sucks at grammar, but the point is, it was an ad for an A/C.......very clearly. If you're looking to be offended then you can find stuff all over. If the ad had been "Tired of wetbacks stealing your jobs? Buy a Winchester today and save our economy!" Well then that's clearly derogatory. Lighten up people.......at work, the hispanics that worked there used to call me beloved patriot/guero, i'd respond with "mojados". All with love. No big deal.

Oh boy, another ostrich... read the whole thread, this crap has been dealt with. Very few people, even those defending the guy, deny that it was intentional.

Then why is this thread still alive? What is still being discussed?

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Lithium381

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Lithium381
This is ridiculous, plain and simple. It could have been a translating error, someone sucks at grammar, but the point is, it was an ad for an A/C.......very clearly. If you're looking to be offended then you can find stuff all over. If the ad had been "Tired of wetbacks stealing your jobs? Buy a Winchester today and save our economy!" Well then that's clearly derogatory. Lighten up people.......at work, the hispanics that worked there used to call me beloved patriot/guero, i'd respond with "mojados". All with love. No big deal.

Oh boy, another ostrich... read the whole thread, this crap has been dealt with. Very few people, even those defending the guy, deny that it was intentional.

Then why is this thread still alive? What is still being discussed?

Because you dug it up from the grave because you wanted to express your opinion. This thread was pretty much dead until you rehashed the same thing that has been said and disproved in this thread many times.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Lithium381

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Lithium381
This is ridiculous, plain and simple. It could have been a translating error, someone sucks at grammar, but the point is, it was an ad for an A/C.......very clearly. If you're looking to be offended then you can find stuff all over. If the ad had been "Tired of wetbacks stealing your jobs? Buy a Winchester today and save our economy!" Well then that's clearly derogatory. Lighten up people.......at work, the hispanics that worked there used to call me beloved patriot/guero, i'd respond with "mojados". All with love. No big deal.

Oh boy, another ostrich... read the whole thread, this crap has been dealt with. Very few people, even those defending the guy, deny that it was intentional.

Then why is this thread still alive? What is still being discussed?

I haven't been paying much attention lately, but the main thread of discussion now seems to be whether it was referring to all latinos or just illegal immigrants.

 

[911paramedic]

Originally posted by: Baloo
hmm, OK, Learn something new every day. While I have heard the term before, I never new it was a derogatory term for Hispanics. I thought it pertained to Navy divers.

Thats a shellback, any Sailor who has crossed the equator while underway. (Not just diver.)

 

[alphasaur]

I'm hispanic, and I don't care.

People need to stop QQing so much over stupid shit.