I don't give a flying fvck if it offends illegals. Should we all go up in arms because we call the french pussies? I don't think so. They are foreigners in our country illegally.
I have a problem with people saying beloved patriot, that is a racist, but beautiful ray of sunshine... please. :roll:
So you would like a country without "classes", move to a communist country.
redgtxdi
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AMEN & HALLELUJIAH!!!!!!!!!!
The next time you think illegal immigration isn't a problem..................
If you don't think beautiful ray of sunshine is racist, call some random Hispanic person it and see what happens.
Better yet, call a legal Hispanic immigrant beautiful ray of sunshine and see how they like it.
How about I call some random guy an asshole and see how he responds, you'd get the same response. What is your point? Calling names in general upsets people? Good job! have a
What is so hard to understand... the commercial was talking about wetbacks, illegal immigrants not legal ones, legal immigrants have nothing to be upset about.
Originally posted by: ZeroIQ
How about I call some random guy an asshole and see how he responds, you'd get the same response. What is your point? Calling names in general upsets people? Good job! have a
What is so hard to understand... the commercial was talking about wetbacks, illegal immigrants not legal ones, legal immigrants have nothing to be upset about.
God damn you people are dense.
You're comparing a hurtful racial slur to a general insult? Good job. Let's call a white person or a black person a beautiful ray of sunshine and see if they take offense to the slur as much as a Hispanic, shall we? How 'bout we call someone of East-Asian descent a beautiful ray of sunshine and see if they're really offended?
The legal hispanics I worked with found it especially insulting to be called a beautiful ray of sunshine. Calling them a beautiful ray of sunshine and comparing them to an illegal hurt my co-workers even more than a typical slur because of all the hell they went through coming here legally.
People don't just call illegal immigrants wetbacks. They'll call every darker-skinned person with even a novice level fluency in spanish a beautiful ray of sunshine. It's meant to get under these people's skin too when you compare them to a criminal and the stigma attached to illegal immigrants.
Hell, I'm not even Hispanic (I'm primarily Eastern European) and I've been called a beloved patriot and a beautiful ray of sunshine before by bigots when working with Hispanic people and speaking broken Spanish. I look Spanish, but I speak English well and there'd be no indication that I'd be here illegally. People throw the word around to hurt and degrade. They don't care if you're legal or not.
Where the hell do you people live that you've never heard people refer to legal Hispanics as wetbacks when degrading them?
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: ZeroIQ
How about I call some random guy an asshole and see how he responds, you'd get the same response. What is your point? Calling names in general upsets people? Good job! have a
What is so hard to understand... the commercial was talking about wetbacks, illegal immigrants not legal ones, legal immigrants have nothing to be upset about.
God damn you people are dense.
You're comparing a hurtful racial slur to a general insult? Good job. Let's call a white person or a black person a beautiful ray of sunshine and see if they take offense to the slur as much as a Hispanic, shall we? How 'bout we call someone of East-Asian descent a beautiful ray of sunshine and see if they're really offended?
The legal hispanics I worked with found it especially insulting to be called a beautiful ray of sunshine. Calling them a beautiful ray of sunshine and comparing them to an illegal hurt my co-workers even more than a typical slur because of all the hell they went through coming here legally.
People don't just call illegal immigrants wetbacks. They'll call every darker-skinned person with even a novice level fluency in spanish a beautiful ray of sunshine. It's meant to get under these people's skin too when you compare them to a criminal and the stigma attached to illegal immigrants.
Hell, I'm not even Hispanic (I'm primarily Eastern European) and I've been called a beloved patriot and a beautiful ray of sunshine before by bigots when working with Hispanic people and speaking broken Spanish. I look Spanish, but I speak English well and there'd be no indication that I'd be here illegally. People throw the word around to hurt and degrade. They don't care if you're legal or not.
Where the hell do you people live that you've never heard people refer to legal Hispanics as wetbacks when degrading them?
Once again, the commercial did not point a finger at a legal immigrant and call them a beautiful ray of sunshine, they generalised it - so they were not talking about legals.
A good reason why they might be calling every dark skinned person a beautiful ray of sunshine (where ever you are from) is because they, for the most part, refuse to become part of the american society. I know this isn't the case for all, but many that I have seen and talked to will not learn english. There is a reason why everything has spanish underneath it.
We have every right to be upset about the invasion of illegal immigrants, hispanic or not.
If legal immigrants want to be mad at someone, they need to be mad at illegal immigrants who are causing this assumption toward them.
Good one :thumbsup:
And you know this how?
How do you know that the person who designed the ad and had it processed wasn't using it as thinly veiled racism against all Hispanics?
Elaborate?
I can say one thing and allegedly think another, you can only judge me on what I say and do, not by what you think i might be thinking.
Pepsei
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it looks like a lot of people never watched the 'wet back' episode of the south park. which is where i learn about that word in the first place, so i'd say it's rather uncommon, but i live in Virginia.
i don't think you can compare it to FOB thou, not a lot of Asians are offended by that.
i don't think you can compare it to FOB thou, not a lot of Asians are offended by that.
Originally posted by: redgtxdi
Methinks BigJ needs to spend some time in So Cal!!
Yea seriously, if you live in a border state, it's common to go around throwing racial slurs. It's great conversation opener. Hey beautiful ray of sunshine, want to come over for dinner?
To ZeroIQ:
Wetbacks, as a term, has been generalized in conversation to include all Hispanics. I highly doubt border state residents with high Hispanic populations don't know what the term beautiful ray of sunshine means and it's all encompassing meaning.
Anubis:
You need to broaden your reading comprehension and learn to read between the lines. Wet Back = wetbacks in the context of where the ad was sent.
The bottom line...no one really knows if there was motive behind the ad or if it was just bad wording. All these people that got their panties in a wad over the words used in the ad are nothing more than attention-whores.
All these people posting on this thread about how derogatory and offensive these "words" are have no fear of getting hurt by them. If you do get hurt by them, you have deeper-seeded issues and need psychological counseling.
I live in an area clearly divided by historical racism; black and white. I have a black wife and we get it from both sides of the fence. We get words thrown from whites and words thrown from blacks. You want to know something? They're just words and they can't hurt you.
The manager of this car dealership lost his job because it made some thin-skinned, attention-whoring fucks feel bigger and badder because they now were the savior of their race. They got rid of one more racist, hate-monger by bringing to light the apparent hate and racism this guy must have deep within him. I think not. All they did was plant seeds and drive the wedge deeper between races. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton do this all the time in their quest for "racial equality". Just as these so-called "Hispanic leaders" didn't have racial-equality on their minds when they brought this to light. There won't be any ground-breaking revelations in racial-equality to come from this.
A previous poster said it right when they posted that any race can say anything blatantly derogotory or even perceived as derogotory about any white person and be protected. When a white person says anything even remotely perceived as derogotory at any time about any other race they are labeled a bigot and hate-monger. That is happening in this case.
Personally, the ad was "meh". I chuckled a bit and thought it was clever with the possible double entendre but that's all. No racism...no hate...no bigotry.
All these people posting on this thread about how derogatory and offensive these "words" are have no fear of getting hurt by them. If you do get hurt by them, you have deeper-seeded issues and need psychological counseling.
I live in an area clearly divided by historical racism; black and white. I have a black wife and we get it from both sides of the fence. We get words thrown from whites and words thrown from blacks. You want to know something? They're just words and they can't hurt you.
The manager of this car dealership lost his job because it made some thin-skinned, attention-whoring fucks feel bigger and badder because they now were the savior of their race. They got rid of one more racist, hate-monger by bringing to light the apparent hate and racism this guy must have deep within him. I think not. All they did was plant seeds and drive the wedge deeper between races. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton do this all the time in their quest for "racial equality". Just as these so-called "Hispanic leaders" didn't have racial-equality on their minds when they brought this to light. There won't be any ground-breaking revelations in racial-equality to come from this.
A previous poster said it right when they posted that any race can say anything blatantly derogotory or even perceived as derogotory about any white person and be protected. When a white person says anything even remotely perceived as derogotory at any time about any other race they are labeled a bigot and hate-monger. That is happening in this case.
Personally, the ad was "meh". I chuckled a bit and thought it was clever with the possible double entendre but that's all. No racism...no hate...no bigotry.
purbeast0
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wow I'm surprised that many people on here didn't know this was a derogatory name.
it's like calling a black person a n*gger.
it's like calling a jew a k*ke.
it's like calling an itallian a w*p.
it's like calling a chinese person a ch*nk.
it's like calling a hispanic person a sp*c.
so yah, i'm not surprised by the reaction of the community.
imagine if someone sent an ad to SE DC that said "tired of N*ggers?" you can bet your ass you would hear about it on the news.
it's like calling a black person a n*gger.
it's like calling a jew a k*ke.
it's like calling an itallian a w*p.
it's like calling a chinese person a ch*nk.
it's like calling a hispanic person a sp*c.
so yah, i'm not surprised by the reaction of the community.
imagine if someone sent an ad to SE DC that said "tired of N*ggers?" you can bet your ass you would hear about it on the news.
DivideBYZero
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:thumbsup:
Exactly.
At the end of the day, words are just words. There's nothing meaningful to it, unless you give it to them.
I feel if people stop catching feeling on words, the world would be much better place.
DivideBYZero
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Do you actually believe that its ok to call whites (and maybe a handful of rich asians) derogatory terms, but not the other way around?
how does that work?
how does some that is "too" stupid to put something offensive in a headline get it in the headline?
wouldn't someone too stupid to do something not be able to get it done?
:roll:
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