TIRED OF HIGH GAS PRICES? HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO FIGHT BACK...

fbrdphreak

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I got a damn forward from one of my uncles out in CA. Look at this ****** he's trying to get me to sign up to

http://www.gasclubusa.net

I won't include the "referral" link he sent me, stupid ******.

Here's what I wrote him, anything else I should mention?

With a name like "Ethos," this really sounds like someone is just selling Ethanol for you to put in your gas tank. Some engines can run fine on ethanol, whether mileage actually improves is under debate; obviously if its debatable, its probly not a worthwhile difference. However what ethanol can certainly do in higher concentrations is eat through your seals and hoses. Unless engines are specifically designed to run on high concentrations of ethanol, you're only chancing premature major engine failure. Some vehicles are considered "FlexFuel" or "E85 Compatible" and can take the Ethanol fuel mixes which are predominantly available in the mid-west. Ford has a number of Flex vehicles and GM's gas trucks can be ordered with an E85 compatible engine. I read about the modified GM trucks and the only difference is a beefed up fuel system to handle the different fuel; without it different parts of the fuel system will corrode or fail over time.

Read these links for a start on what you're looking at before you start dumping this into your tank:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_fuel
http://www.ve85.com/FAQ/

I keep forgetting you're out in CA. You've been using a 10% ethanol gas mix for forever; a long time ago California declared the additive MTBE cancerous and eliminated its usage. They're doing the same thing everywhere else now, but previously other areas only got ethanol mix in the winter; something about the alcohol aborbing water so it doesn't sit on the bottom of your gas tank and freeze I think, referred to as oxygenated gas. cars generally run worse on "winter" gas, losing horsepower and mileage.

Do yourself a favor and just buy an E85 compatible vehicle. What kind of car are you driving now anyway?

I just spouted off everything I could remember/find quickly, anything I missed or mis-stated?

:roll: Damn gullible family members, I'm sure my Dad is gonna forward this to me too
 

everman

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Do they have any bridges for sale, perhaps some swamp land?
I'm prepared to make a large offer of waffles if they have a nice bridge, something around brooklyn would be nice.
 

fbrdphreak

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Maybe if I make a flashy website like that and sell something called "Uros" people will buy bottles of my piss and put it in their cars :roll:
 

pontifex

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100 million dollar company with a website that looks like it was made by a drunk monkey?
 

Mark R

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Ah, is this the same company whose CEO has a "PhD from Harvard, is a Nobel prize nominee and has 15 patents", but when you investigate, never went to Harvard, has no patents and has never been nominated for a Nobel prize?

Yes, I believe it is.

Anyway, whether the Ethos FR does anything or not, is irrelevant. The marketing scheme is a pyramid scheme, pure and simple.
 

JulesMaximus

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Just tell them to sell their gas guzzling SUVs and trucks and buy a Honda Civic if they're tired of high gas prices.
 

Crucial

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According to the news blurbs the product is mineral oil based and is not toxic. the guy drinks the stuff so I don't believe it is ethanol. That doesn't mean it does what it says though. If it were that easy why wouldn't the gas companies be putting this in the fuel already?
 

Crucial

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Originally posted by: pontifex
100 million dollar company with a website that looks like it was made by a drunk monkey?

(This marketing site is not a Ethos company website)

I don't sell the stuff and am not affiliated in any way.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: falias
If I wanted ethanol in my car I would just fill up at any gas station in the city.

fixed.

Originally posted by: Crucial
According to the news blurbs the product is mineral oil based and is not toxic. the guy drinks the stuff so I don't believe it is ethanol. That doesn't mean it does what it says though. If it were that easy why wouldn't the gas companies be putting this in the fuel already?

"mineral oil" = petroleum. Umm?

That said, I drink ethanol from time to time...it's good stuff :D
 

Midlander

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Originally posted by: jagec

That said, I drink ethanol from time to time...it's good stuff :D

Yep, particularly if it's flavored in some manner--oak cask, juniper berries, oranges, etc.
 

Crucial

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: falias
If I wanted ethanol in my car I would just fill up at any gas station in the city.

fixed.

Originally posted by: Crucial
According to the news blurbs the product is mineral oil based and is not toxic. the guy drinks the stuff so I don't believe it is ethanol. That doesn't mean it does what it says though. If it were that easy why wouldn't the gas companies be putting this in the fuel already?

"mineral oil" = petroleum. Umm?

That said, I drink ethanol from time to time...it's good stuff :D


Further reading finds that the product is not petroleum based. Ethos FR contains two families of esters, a group of cleaning esters and a group of lubricating esters in a mineral oil base. It cleans and lubricates the internal parts of the engine without the use of petroleum-derived products commonly found in fuel additives.

Their statements are contradictory though. They must not mean the mineral oil base but the esters themselves are not petroleum based. In either case the guy still slurps some up. Mineral oil is used as a laxative lubricant so it can be ingested.
 

altonb1

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How about stop driving every where and start walking, riding a bike, etc? That's a good way to save on gas prices.
 

fbrdphreak

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Originally posted by: Crucial
Further reading finds that the product is not petroleum based. Ethos FR contains two families of esters, a group of cleaning esters and a group of lubricating esters in a mineral oil base. It cleans and lubricates the internal parts of the engine without the use of petroleum-derived products commonly found in fuel additives.

Their statements are contradictory though. They must not mean the mineral oil base but the esters themselves are not petroleum based. In either case the guy still slurps some up. Mineral oil is used as a laxative lubricant so it can be ingested.
Link?
 

imported_Phil

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Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
Maybe if I make a flashy website like that and sell something called "Uros" people will buy bottles of my piss and put it in their cars :roll:

That's a fookin' awesome idea. You should do that.
 

Crucial

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Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
Originally posted by: Crucial
Further reading finds that the product is not petroleum based. Ethos FR contains two families of esters, a group of cleaning esters and a group of lubricating esters in a mineral oil base. It cleans and lubricates the internal parts of the engine without the use of petroleum-derived products commonly found in fuel additives.

Their statements are contradictory though. They must not mean the mineral oil base but the esters themselves are not petroleum based. In either case the guy still slurps some up. Mineral oil is used as a laxative lubricant so it can be ingested.
Link?

Google?
 

Crucial

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Originally posted by: altonb1
How about stop driving every where and start walking, riding a bike, etc? That's a good way to save on gas prices.

How about I live 7 miles from work and have to drive to clients locations throughout the day. Riding a bike or walking is impossible for me and millions of others.
 

Babbles

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Just about anytime I see that "As seen on TV" icon, I get very, very suspicious of that product.