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Tire Burnouts

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sontakke

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Does anybody do that on their own car where they have to pay for the tires out of their own pocket? How many miles do scrub off per second of tire burning? Those donuts are not cheap on the cars which are capable of burnouts. I am under impression that burnouts are reserved for borrowed vehicles only.
 
A while back I drove around an old Civic with a turbo'd Integra motor swap. I had pretty wide, sticky tires on it (for a Civic) but was still able to break them free of the road in 3rd gear during good weather. I probably got 20-30k miles out of a set of tires, typically, despite leaving a cloud of tire smoke behind me several times per week. I never held the ebrake and just burned them, mind you, this was mostly just launching the car and keeping them screeching until 50-60mph.
 
that excessive heat melts the rubber almost to a burning point, which is the smoke. Tires are not tested for those kinds of conditions, so even if it might have some deep tread left, the overall condition of the tire will be quite poor.

Think of a plastic drinking glass. I can put a lighter on it and melt it, but it will still hold water quite well. The exterior is quite deformed though.
 
Ah memories of lighting up the tires on my 85 ford Tempo, and 90 Mazda MX6....and Probe GT....and Camry and friends Sentra and firebird formula...and CB750 and once in the driveway with a ZX11..

Do one little burnout and people get all judgemental but go drifting around like an asshole and the internet starts fapping.
 
A little burn-out isn't a big deal.

Burning out in a borrowed vehicle is considered a dick move, at least in bird culture.
 
Just burnt some older tires down before replacing them. The guy who did the mount and balancing commented on all the rubber stuck in the wheel wells. We got to talking and he is doing a hellcat conversion on his challenger. He will be the burnout king very soon. Good thing he works at a tire shop!
 
Burnouts are also hard on the rest of the drivetrain. Axles, driveshafts, suspension components give out. Not sure if newer cars are subject to wheelhop but older muscle cars would shake the rear end violently under severe wheelhop when burning out. Brakes/clutches also take a beating holding the car in place. Knew a guy that blew an engine while keeping the tires singing for a few minutes; no airflow through the radiator while the engine is under high loads.

About the only cars where burnout are acceptable are drag/race cars where devices such as a line-lock are employed to eliminate the brakes from overheating. And generally these cars have overbuilt beefier drivetrain components plus tires expressly designed to be heating to the smoking point to develop necessary traction. On your average car, its borderline abuse.
 
NetWareHead said:
About the only cars where burnout are acceptable are drag/race cars where devices such as a line-lock are employed to eliminate the brakes from overheating...
On your average car, it's borderline abuse.
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I'd say that practice has crossed over the borderline into abuse territory.
😵 But if someone wants to destroy their own property, I say have at it.
 
NetWareHead said:
Burnouts are also hard on the rest of the drivetrain. Axles, driveshafts, suspension components give out. Not sure if newer cars are subject to wheelhop but older muscle cars would shake the rear end violently under severe wheelhop when burning out. Brakes/clutches also take a beating holding the car in place. Knew a guy that blew an engine while keeping the tires singing for a few minutes; no airflow through the radiator while the engine is under high loads.

About the only cars where burnout are acceptable are drag/race cars where devices such as a line-lock are employed to eliminate the brakes from overheating. And generally these cars have overbuilt beefier drivetrain components plus tires expressly designed to be heating to the smoking point to develop necessary traction. On your average car, its borderline abuse.
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My Honda had some pretty bad wheel hop, but I drove the car for over 100k miles with the same engine, clutch, suspension and brakes that I bought the car with, and sold it at 230k for more than I pad for it. I did have to replace both CV axles as I basically detonated the bearings in them though.

Mind you I wasn't holding the brakes, just pressing the pedal to the floor and breaking the tires loose. There was sufficient torque and the car was sufficiently light that that if I really flogged it, I could sit still for a good 5-10 seconds before the car even got moving, without touching the brakes.
 
NetWareHead said:
Burnouts are also hard on the rest of the drivetrain. Axles, driveshafts, suspension components give out. Not sure if newer cars are subject to wheelhop but older muscle cars would shake the rear end violently under severe wheelhop when burning out. Brakes/clutches also take a beating holding the car in place. Knew a guy that blew an engine while keeping the tires singing for a few minutes; no airflow through the radiator while the engine is under high loads.

About the only cars where burnout are acceptable are drag/race cars where devices such as a line-lock are employed to eliminate the brakes from overheating. And generally these cars have overbuilt beefier drivetrain components plus tires expressly designed to be heating to the smoking point to develop necessary traction. On your average car, its borderline abuse.
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To clarify, it's wheel hop that kills driveline components. Axles and differentials do not like violent reciprocating movement. The wheelspin doesn't really hurt anything except tires.
 
Eh.... I tore up the rear tires on my F-150 getting stuck on a freshly graveled incline... With a 7500# trailer attached. Wasn't the truck's fault either but a momentary pause of good decision making on my part. Lesson learned.

So now those rear tires- which were facing a replacement sometime this winter anyway are all tore up from the gravel. Never knew gravel was that hard on tires if you were stuck/spinning.

So before I get the new tires in a few weeks I will throw the switch to lock the diff and roast those fuckers seeings as they are getting replaced anyway.

Same for my bikes... when a rear tire is near the end and is getting replaced... Burnout.

Does it take that much life off a tire? Well, do it enough and on the right road (different areas of the country use different substrates in their pavement) and you can take some life off the tire. Do it once for ten seconds? No big deal.
 
I don't see any point in roasting my tires. There isn't really any reason to do this on a street bike or car unless you're drag racing at the track.
 
Shit yeah I do an occasional burnout. In my Mini JCW, Old Monster, and definitely my new Panigale. Been doing them since I was 16 still doing them at 32...
 
Bleach outs were a graduation thing where I graduated high school, they even tried ban them one year and we outsmarted em with CB's at the time.

We moved them a bit, but that was long ago 🙂

Just burning your tires up is just a waste of money in general.
 
My 7000rpm 625Hp SR MKIV 460ci BBC in a 70Z would burn a set of tires and a tank of gas in 20 minutes and go nowhere ;o)

Waste of money a repairs.
 
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