Tinnitus

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MistaFreeze

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I've had this condition for a little over 2 years. My tinnitus happened during a massive depressive state combined with constant worry and high cholesterol as well as loud music. I've been able to control it mostly but never fully. Nights are still the hardest or when I'm thinking to myself. The hardest part about the condition is moving on. Multiple suicide cases are out there from families with loved ones who had tinnitus and drove them over the edge. I can honestly say it's the hardest thing I've lived with so far but proper diet and less worrying has helped tremendously.

If you have this and want to try lessen the effects you can do some of the following:

1. As mentioned above, music/noise therapy
2. Lift weights or some form of working out
3. Be caffeine and high sodium free
4. Try to relax and worry less/not think about it
5. Drink plenty of water
6. Try some supplements such as Ginko Biloba and other natural remedies
7. White noise during the night

God bless the person who comes up with a legitimate cure for this some day.
 

marvdmartian

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I have it in my left ear (firearms related) and pretty much just tune it out. I'm a left side sleeper, so that might help. Sort of handy, though, if I'm sleeping with the windows open, and there's a dog that just won't shut up....just roll over, and it's like muting the dog! LOL
 

edro

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I have it in my left ear (firearms related) and pretty much just tune it out. I'm a left side sleeper, so that might help. Sort of handy, though, if I'm sleeping with the windows open, and there's a dog that just won't shut up....just roll over, and it's like muting the dog! LOL
Ha! I have the same "feature".
Although, it's tough to hear my wife talking or the baby crying when my good ear is in the pillow.
 

Kaido

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Used to have it. Weirdly enough, turned out to be caused by food allergies. Don't eat the food, don't get the ringing.
 

edro

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Used to have it. Weirdly enough, turned out to be caused by food allergies. Don't eat the food, don't get the ringing.
Wait, what?
What food?
Please don't say beer... please don't say beer....
 

TheAdvocate

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My brother and a coworker have it. I had to take coworker home 2 weeks ago because the steroid shot her doctor gave her after a flare up caused her extreme nausea and she was about to pass out. Kinda scary really.
 

Imp

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I don't... yet. Thank goodness because I went to my first two concerts right without earplugs. Even better, I stood right at the front, one time beside the stacks. Both times, I couldn't hear much after I left and my ears felt weird.

Nowadays, I wear earplugs everywhere and keep some in my pocket just in case. And I own an SPL meter, which I use too much.
 

bradley

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Oddly enough, beer has monomethylsilanetriol, which is the naturally occurring form of silica. Non-alcoholic beer has even greater concentrations. Also green beans and mineral water have a fair amount. All known to reverse some of the causes behind tinnitus, including scarring and calcification. A pure form of sulfur or MSM (up to 2tbl daily) would also work. :)

Hey horse, I would like to lead you to some water. No, fuck you cowboy, I only drink soda.
 

Fritzo

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I have it and have 20% hearing loss as a result. I got it from one too many Marshall stacks turned to 11 in the 80's.

There's a constant sound in my ears when it's quiet- almost like running water. Certain sounds block it out (fans and running PC's are examples), but I've grown so used to it that the sound doesn't bother me.

What DOES bother me is there are certain types of voices that I can't hear very well. Very deep voices and certain types of women's voices are difficult for me to understand (this doesn't happen too often though). It can be a bit embarrassing because I have to keep saying "excuse me" to have them repeat things.

The worst is crowds. I really have to focus in crowds to hear anyone. It's probably part of the reason I don't like going to parties.
 

Carson Dyle

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What DOES bother me is there are certain types of voices that I can't hear very well. Very deep voices and certain types of women's voices are difficult for me to understand (this doesn't happen too often though). It can be a bit embarrassing because I have to keep saying "excuse me" to have them repeat things.

The worst is crowds. I really have to focus in crowds to hear anyone. It's probably part of the reason I don't like going to parties.

Yep. I nod my head a lot. Which can be embarrassing sometimes in the wrong context.

It's especially bad in a crowded bar with a DJ or band playing. I don't realize how bad it is until I see other people carrying on conversations. Or get into the middle of a multi-person discussion and realize that I'm the only one that is only hearing every other word. Also, I can be standing next to someone in a noisy bar who is ordering a drink and can't hear what he said, but the bartender standing five feet away clearly hears it.

The sound I hear in both ears is very high pitched, almost like a pure test tone.
 

Fritzo

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Yep. I nod my head a lot. Which can be embarrassing sometimes in the wrong context.

It's especially bad in a crowded bar with a DJ or band playing. I don't realize how bad it is until I see other people carrying on conversations. Or get into the middle of a multi-person discussion and realize that I'm the only one that is only hearing every other word. Also, I can be standing next to someone in a noisy bar who is ordering a drink and can't hear what he said, but the bartender standing five feet away clearly hears it.

The sound I hear in both ears is very high pitched, almost like a pure test tone.

That is me to a "T". Everyone will be talking things up and I'm just standing there. I learned to deal with it by leading the conversation. That way I always know what's being talked about :)
 

Ban Bot

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I am deaf in my left ear and also have roaring tinnitus in it. It started out as pulsatile tinnitus but it was later discovered the heart beat was real (I had a superior canal dehiscence that cause autophany, balance issues, etc.) Surgeon tried to repair the hole but instead I lost hearing AND got a bad case of roaring tinnitus. Good news is I can ignore that ear as I don't hear in it.
 

BlitzPuppet

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I get a flutter in my right ear every now and again. Not sure what caused that...it's completely random.

Annoying as hell though.
 

Muse

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I've been to concerts where I've had it for several days afterwards. It's always been a big fear of mine since I can't imagine anything more annoying. I honestly don't know how people stay sane never being able to enjoy quietness.
That used to happen to me. Take my word for it, if you keep doing that (without taking precautions, such as I suggest below) eventually the whistling noises won't go away, you'll have them 24/7 for the rest of your life!
OK, how many here have this condition ? I've had it for years .. some hearing loss as a result. Back in the day to much loud music and while in the Army I didn't use my ear plugs while in my track vehicles ( M113 ) and around M60 tanks at the motor pool.

As long as I'm around some noise I don't hear it. But at night ( year round ) I have to have a fan on to cancel out the ringing. If you have this condition how do you cope ?

I have had it for many years, too much loud music is, I figure, the cause. It's the result of nerve damage to your ears and my doctor tells me there's no way to reverse that damage. I've had it so long that most of the time I don't notice it or think about it, but if I do think about it, yeah, I hear it. I just ignore it. Yep, it fucks up your ability to hear things. I don't do well in noisy environments understanding conversations a lot of the time, unless people talk loud enough. Some people I understand better than others, depends on their enunciation, the peculiarities of their voices and speech patterns.

I had my ears tested about 10 years ago and they said below 3000 hz my hearing is normal but is attenuated by about 50% from there up.

There are many kinds of tinnitus, it is experienced quite differently by different people. You will learn that if you do a google search.

I don't bother with white noise to combat tinnitus. I'm considering it to combat noise from my neighbors. One neighbor has the TV on 24/7 sometimes for days and weeks, another has some kind of machine that makes a constant tone around 200hz. I've talked to both these, the first just doesn't get it that other people might not want to hear their TV, the other said "what sound?" :confused: I think they are just plain liars. No, it's not my tinnitus, they have some kind of machine on there... To deal with my neighbors I've been shoving silicon ear plugs in my ears every night before going to sleep. Shove it in tight! I called the cops on the TV lady one night around 1:30AM. Not sure they came. Have talked to her once, left a note or two. They are incorrigible. I could call the cops again, maybe get the city after them and the tone people too, don't know if they would/could be any help.

You people who go to loud concerts -- yeah, loud music is fun, but a lifetime of tinnitus could be the price you pay if you don't wear some ear protection, whether it's ear plugs, wads of cotton or even cigarette filters or pieces of paper you wet with spit and shove in your ears. You don't have to kill the sound completely, just attenuate it enough where you don't damage the nerves in your ears. :cool: I sometimes wear sound muffling ear muffs (sold for that purpose at Harbor Freight), around the house when doing loud blender jobs or use loud electric tools. I want to protect what hearing I have left. Both my parents went practically deaf eventually... I think my hearing's been pretty stable for many years, but I am considering having another hearing test. My hearing may have changed and the test I had may not have been conducted correctly.
 
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Muse

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You might want to do some research into notched music therapy for tinnitus. I've played around with it a little, but haven't put the time and effort into it yet to see if really helps. The way I produce the notched music is by using SoX software to alter music playing through a Logitech Squeezebox and my stereo system. You need to know the frequency of the ringing, though, to make it effective, and I haven't seen an audiologist.
I don't know about notched music therapy, but I do boost the treble when I can. As I said, my hearing test said I had about 1/2 of normal sensitivity for 3000hz and above, so... If my equipment has treble boost, I use it. I use ear buds when I listen to music in the gym and also when I watch movies. It helps me understand conversation, way better than when I use my 5.1 speaker system.
 

Muse

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I have just developed it. Had an infection in my ear I think. Kinda sucks but what are you going to do? I have always slept with a fan on and the rest of the time I have the radio or the TV on. So far not so bad.
A friend of mine who prided himself on his great hearing developed a very serious and nearly fatal problem (ulcerative colitis, I think) and doctors administered antibiotics, ototoxins, I believe is what he told me they were, and although they may have been very therapeutic (I don't know), the permanent side effects include hearing loss, and I believe, tinnitus. He was quite bitter about this. It's something to think about if your doctor asks you if you want to take antibiotics!!!
 
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Muse

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I get a flutter in my right ear every now and again. Not sure what caused that...it's completely random.

Annoying as hell though.
I've had that, only on rare occasions, I think, and can't remember it happening recently. More frequently, I experience a sudden ringing in one ear (on top of my constant high pitched, multi-toned tinnitus) that goes away in the few seconds. That happens to me nowadays once in a while. It's nothing compared to 24/7 tinnitus, though!
 

edro

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That is me to a "T". Everyone will be talking things up and I'm just standing there. I learned to deal with it by leading the conversation. That way I always know what's being talked about :)
Yeah, I am the same way.

Unfortunately, it leads to you being out of the loop and very distant.
It can be tough on relationships. It isn't intentional, but you slowly fade away from your friends, family and coworkers.
People get tired of repeating everything they say and you get tired of saying "what" after everything they say.
My grandfather has hearing aids and when he doesn't wear them, he just stays out of conversations and just stares off at the TV or into space.

It really sucks, which is why I am seriously thinking about getting hearing aids and wearing them more often.

I am starting to see more and more low cost hearing aids, and from non-traditional hearing aid companies. There are a lot of Bluetooth ear buds now that can be paired with your phone and act like an adjustable hearing aid.
I think in the next 5-10 years, they will get even better and lower cost.

There are a few apps out there that allow you to simulate hearing aids.
I tried them and they work really well. (Ear Machine is one)
Just put that into a bluetooth earpiece and you are set.
 
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Markbnj

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Oddly enough, beer has monomethylsilanetriol, which is the naturally occurring form of silica. Non-alcoholic beer has even greater concentrations. Also green beans and mineral water have a fair amount. All known to reverse some of the causes behind tinnitus, including scarring and calcification. A pure form of sulfur or MSM (up to 2tbl daily) would also work. :)

Hey horse, I would like to lead you to some water. No, fuck you cowboy, I only drink soda.

I can't find a single link to a medical authority that supports the use of silica, diatomaceous earth, or anything else of that kind for the treatment of tinnitus. I did find a few links to sites selling the crap, but that's about it. If you have an authoritative source of evidence on the effectiveness please post it.
 

Imp

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If you people can hold on for another decade, they have apparently successfully regrown ear hair cells in mice with stem cells. Come on cure for hearing loss...
 

Ryland

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I have Meniere's disease which causes constant tininitus. Overnight I had 80% loss of hearing in one ear and now have constant ringing in that ear. It sucks.
 

Muse

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If you people can hold on for another decade, they have apparently successfully regrown ear hair cells in mice with stem cells. Come on cure for hearing loss...
I can hold on, my hearing really is 1/2 decent. The other half sucks. My eyes aren't terrific, but I know they would never approve cataract surgery for me, I have a very mild condition. In another 10 years it will be a different story, and they will have better techniques too.

The ringing in the ears? I have had it for decades and I have just learned to accept it and ignore it. I believe that in periods of high stress, accompanied by insufficient sleep, it's accentuated.
 
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I have it occasionally. It is no ringing but more like a frequency generator constantly but slowly sweeping up and down from a kiloHertz to for example around 15 kiloHertz with a constant ~10 kiloHertz tone present. No sinewave, more like a trianglewave. I compared it with sounds from my own function generator. Forgot to mention, it is position shifted towards my left ear. I blame myself for using in ear plugs with loud music.
 
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