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Timing Belt Change Kits (1999 Camry)

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steppinthrax

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I have a 1999 camry. It has around 85K on it. I want to go ahead a do a timing belt replaced. I was looking at the timing belts online and I notice some people sell them in a huge kit containing new crank and cam seals, water pump and pretty much every reasonable part that you can change on that side of the engine. It goes for 150? I was thinking some people change their water pump when they change their timing belt. My question is, are these kits wort it.
 
People's opinions vary, but consider the quality of the parts you're getting for $150. Personally, when I do major work like this I stick OEM parts. Yes I pay quite a bit more but at least I know if it goes wrong its my fault and not a cheap part.
 
NutBucket said:
People's opinions vary, but consider the quality of the parts you're getting for $150. Personally, when I do major work like this I stick OEM parts. Yes I pay quite a bit more but at least I know if it goes wrong its my fault and not a cheap part.
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I find this statement to also be true when buying highly sensitive electronic sensors as well. ie. MAF sensors.
 
steppinthrax said:
I have a 1999 camry. It has around 85K on it. I want to go ahead a do a timing belt replaced. I was looking at the timing belts online and I notice some people sell them in a huge kit containing new crank and cam seals, water pump and pretty much every reasonable part that you can change on that side of the engine. It goes for 150? I was thinking some people change their water pump when they change their timing belt. My question is, are these kits wort it.
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Don't go with a cheap part when you are replacing the gaskets around the timing belt. The quality ones only cost a few dollars more, and if any of them fail you will kick yourself because the cost of repairs will be $$$$
 
I look at crank and cam seals and only replace if necessary. The Camry is not too tough to get into.
I did the belt the first time, and left the pump. It went out at 180, good timing for a new belt.
It is a non-interference engine so it won't bend a handful of valves like a honda.
 
As a former Toyota mechanic.....

It is common to find the water pump, cam and crank seals leaking when you go to replace the timing belt. It is also common to find the timing belt tensioner needs replacing as well. Especially on the V6 Camry's and ES300s. Popping the cam/crank seals with a pick/screwdriver, and tapping new ones in (with a deep socket) isn't hard at all if you can get the crank bolt out and balancer off with hand tools. Also consider servicing the valve cover gasket/plug well seals at the same time. If you do all of the above, you won't have to deal with it again for another 100K miles.

I personally recommend OEM parts and especially the Toyota RTV (silocon sealer). The sealer is so much better than the crap you get at an auto parts store, it is worth the trouble/price.
 
This is scraped from a toyotanation reply in response to a '98 tb job, and am posting to give you an idea of parts needed and prices from Rockauto. You can't go wrong getting them from the dealer aside from price rape, but doesn't mean you will automatically go wrong not getting them from the dealer, which I chose not to.

Fwiw, I have read great things about Toyota RTV too, altho most don't use it.

GATES K030295 Micro-V AT Power Steering Belt $5.14
GATES K050435 Micro-V AT Alt/AC Belt $14.10
FEL-PRO TCS45920 Crankshaft Front Seal Set $5.10
FEL-PRO TCS45641 Camshaft Front Seal $3.66
NATIONAL 221820 Polyacrylate Oil Pump Shaft Seal $2.86
GATES TCK199 (1 Belt, 1 Tensioner, 1 Idler) Timing Belt Component Kit
$52.89
STANT 48278 180° w/Jiggle Pin OE Type Thermostat $10.94
AISIN WPT010A Water pump w/o housing $30.79
FEL-PRO VS50304R1 Valve Cover Gasket Set w/Spark plug tube seals
$18.26
Subtotal $143.74
Shipping about $20

An addition to that would be the entire water pump housing for a little more money, can't go wrong there but not always necessary if on a budget. Another would be the oil pump, which no doubt leaks at this point and is only accessible by removing timing belt. It will need atleast a new seal and o-ring (~$12 aftermarket for both, $30 dealer iirc), and possibly new drive rotor and driven rotor ($34 for set at dealer...these are the gear components) if there is scoring on these, and possibly entire oil pump assembly if the housing is heavily worn/scored from gears as well.

That site is the best imo for great toyota discussions/resources.[/URL]

DIY Timing Belt + Waterpump + Oil Seal Change 5S-FE (GEN3)

If I'm not mistaken, if yours is a 4 cylinder, you will have this same engine.
 
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MiataNC said:
As a former Toyota mechanic.....

It is common to find the water pump, cam and crank seals leaking when you go to replace the timing belt. It is also common to find the timing belt tensioner needs replacing as well. Especially on the V6 Camry's and ES300s. Popping the cam/crank seals with a pick/screwdriver, and tapping new ones in (with a deep socket) isn't hard at all if you can get the crank bolt out and balancer off with hand tools. Also consider servicing the valve cover gasket/plug well seals at the same time. If you do all of the above, you won't have to deal with it again for another 100K miles.

I personally recommend OEM parts and especially the Toyota RTV (silocon sealer). The sealer is so much better than the crap you get at an auto parts store, it is worth the trouble/price.
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When is the general timing belt replacment interval. I have a 4 cyl with 85 on it right now.
 
Typical should be something like 7 years, 90k or somewhere thereabouts. The time is almost more important than the mileage.
 
steppinthrax said:
When is the general timing belt replacment interval. I have a 4 cyl with 85 on it right now.
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If memory serves it is 90K miles.

It is a non-interference motor, so if you run longer and/or the belt breaks you won't damage anything. Cam/Crank seals are important, because if they seep/weep, they can soak/contaminate the timing belt and case premature failure.

That 4cyl is a brilliant little motor. It is worth investing in keeping it well maintained.
 
MiataNC said:
If memory serves it is 90K miles.

It is a non-interference motor, so if you run longer and/or the belt breaks you won't damage anything. Cam/Crank seals are important, because if they seep/weep, they can soak/contaminate the timing belt and case premature failure.

That 4cyl is a brilliant little motor. It is worth investing in keeping it well maintained.
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Yep, I know Toyota, I use synthetic in it from the time I bought it.
 
Sadily, I replaced my timing belt on the wife's 99 camry just a summer ago, and tonight it just gave out again. I'm thinking I'm needing a new cam seal. All other seals as well as oil pump shaft, and water pump were replaced last time. I'm thinking it was a mistake to not swap out the cam seal. (sigh)
 
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