Time Warner "unwanted activity" message in my browser

[Lifted]

THe ISP cannot privide any info to victim or vise versa for confidentiality agreement, But the ISP notifies the attacker and will block if breach of contract agreement.

Confidentiality agreement? With who, the automated system that may have notified them of some "unwanted activity", whatever that means?

So my supposed victim here notified TWC of an attack I made on them, and also made TWC agree to a confidentiality agreement so as to not inform me of the details of the attack that I performed on them?

😵

 

[wirednuts]

op admitted he was downloading illegal content though... i just think they would have told him what it was, but maybe they dont even want to admit because the feds would have to be called in? :/

 

[ViRGE]

op admitted he was downloading illegal content though... i just think they would have told him what it was, but maybe they dont even want to admit because the feds would have to be called in? :/

*sigh*

For the last time, no. Copyright infringement involves an entirely different nastygram.

 

[wirednuts]

*sigh*

For the last time, no. Copyright infringement involves an entirely different nastygram.

im not arguing with you, i do understand everything youre saying. im just saying it doesnt make sense, because OP is monitoring his traffic and the only thing he can think of is the linux distros he has been downloading. i am putting faith in the idea that op knows what hes doing, but at the same time i dont think i have ever heard of anyone being disconnected because of malware- and i know a LOT of people with a LOT of malware on their pc's.

 

[JackMDS]

*sigh*

http://learningdisabilities.about.com/od/glossar1/g/abstractreason.htm


😎

 

[Fardringle]

Confidentiality agreement? With who, the automated system that may have notified them of some "unwanted activity", whatever that means?

So my supposed victim here notified TWC of an attack I made on them, and also made TWC agree to a confidentiality agreement so as to not inform me of the details of the attack that I performed on them?

😵

The 'confidentiality' portion is that TWC won't give YOUR personal details to the person/computer/whatever that reported the unwanted activity coming from your computer. They most certainly will tell you what your computer(s) have done if you call and ask them.

 

[blackened23]

They're not the only provider. If they won't be more forthcoming about the problem, find a service provider that won't screw with you.

haha, I wish this were actually possible. Sadly, in most areas of US it isn't. Broadband providers are generally a monopoly therefore you either put up with it or leave to something silly like dial up.

Most areas in the US just don't have choices between broadband providers, if your neck of the woods does - I envy you.

 

[crashtech]

We live in the sticks, and even we can choose between DSL, cable, and a wireless service called OneWave. So yeah, I figured most areas have some choice by now.

 

[wirednuts]

We live in the sticks, and even we can choose between DSL, cable, and a wireless service called OneWave. So yeah, I figured most areas have some choice by now.

we have dsl in our area, and cable. i chose dsl, but when i tried to sign up they said my address was not available. i told them my mailbox is fine. they asked if its new, and i said "yes, it was installed 60 years ago".

i called the cable company and they said "sure, we can hook you up" and that was that. if frontier internet doesnt want my business, i cant do much about it.

 

[crashtech]

It sucks not to have a choice. Sounds like the telco is not working very hard for your business, which is somewhat inexplicable given that people are turning off their landlines in droves.

 

[Lifted]

It sucks not to have a choice. Sounds like the telco is not working very hard for your business, which is somewhat inexplicable given that people are turning off their landlines in droves.

Verizon are trying to move away from copper, around here at least. I just checked for DSL service last and it said not available on their site. It was available 2 years ago. They have been outside my place though installing FIOS systems so I guess they just can't be bothered with residential DSL service these days.

Until FIOS is ready I'm stuck with Time Warner unless I want to dig out an old AOL cd and give 56k a try. I do have unlimited 4G on my iphone but I'd rather not abuse that, and it's not consistent enough anyway (high latency ever so often).

 

[wirednuts]

It sucks not to have a choice. Sounds like the telco is not working very hard for your business, which is somewhat inexplicable given that people are turning off their landlines in droves.

i know. it sort of upset me, but i didnt say anything of course. i just said "well im pretty sure you guys cover this town" and she replied "yes but we dont have dsl service at that address"

the charter guy told me "frontier covers the whole town with dsl, i know because we lose customers to them all the time"

i told the guy "thanks man. im not going to worry about it. you guys actually want my money, then you get it".

he laughed

 

[crashtech]

So weird that here in flyover country we have at least three broadband options that I know of. Then again we have a pretty decent local telco. I had some misconceptions about the rest of the country.

 

[Binky]

This appears to be a malware warning. This does NOT appear to be a pirated software/music/movie warning. This thread has gotten off-topic a lot.

Scan you computer(s). I don't understand how people can fault TW for doing this. Forcing the warning seems entirely reasonable. Would you be offended if your not-so-bright neighbor WITH the botnet software on his computers got this warning?

 

[Ketchup]

Interesting thread, Lifted. I have never heard of this one (as others haven't apparently). Are we sure the message was actually from Time Warner?

 

[wirednuts]

This appears to be a malware warning. This does NOT appear to be a pirated software/music/movie warning. This thread has gotten off-topic a lot.

Scan you computer(s). I don't understand how people can fault TW for doing this. Forcing the warning seems entirely reasonable. Would you be offended if your not-so-bright neighbor WITH the botnet software on his computers got this warning?

im not that smart about how isp's work.. but if theyre just routing traffic i still dont see how it effects them... honestly, i am not trying to be a pain in the ass i just want to understand it.

 

[Lifted]

Interesting thread, Lifted. I have never heard of this one (as others haven't apparently). Are we sure the message was actually from Time Warner?

I didn't grab a screen cap, but I printed the page to a file...

 

[Ketchup]

http://www.darkreading.com/monitoring/anti-botnet-efforts-still-nascent-but-gr/240143005

http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/thi...ust-alliance-step-up-attacks-on-botnets/10880

hmm, so it sounds like many will be getting these sooner or later. I just wonder if they will be sending false alerts on this.

 

[ViRGE]

im not that smart about how isp's work.. but if theyre just routing traffic i still dont see how it effects them... honestly, i am not trying to be a pain in the ass i just want to understand it.

Dude. I just explained this to you yesterday.🙁

Network admins have been disconnecting malware infected computers since the beginning of time. If they didn't, then their networks would come crumbling down due to infected machines reaching out and attacking other machines and other networks. This isn't about caps and bandwidth, this is about one of Lifted's machines spamming, DoSing, hacking, and doing god knows what else to other computers. No one benefits from allowing that to continue.

 

[wirednuts]

Dude. I just explained this to you yesterday.🙁

i know. i see them as a giant switch. what are they managing? if the purpose of an isp is to be a hub to the internet, why should they monitor what gets switched? this isnt an office network trying to keep sensitive data from the wrong hands.. theyre supposed to be an access point, nothing more.

 

[ViRGE]

i know. i see them as a giant switch. what are they managing? if the purpose of an isp is to be a hub to the internet, why should they monitor what gets switched? this isnt an office network trying to keep sensitive data from the wrong hands.. theyre supposed to be an access point, nothing more.

Let me try to work out a simple analogy for you. Imagine your neighbor comes over and tries to lockpick your door every day; he usually fails, but sooner or later he'll get it right and break into your house. Now would you rather the police do something, or stand by and do nothing?

It's to everyone's benefit that crime is prevented. That goes for both the real world and the Internet. And ISPs are in the perfect position to prevent botnet crime.

 

[wirednuts]

And ISPs are in the perfect position to prevent botnet crime.

ok thats my point this entire time. just because the isp's are in a good position, it shouldnt give them automatic authority to snoop the traffic in hopes of keeping everyone else safe.

i might be going out on a limb, but i think american isp's are under pressure from our government to watch us. you can debate all you want if its moral or not, but all im saying is the original intent of the internet is for ISP's to physically connect you, and stay out of the way. this is not the trend lately, as ISP's are becoming the world police- and i think that is very dangerous given the fact they are NOT police.

now, i understand this is just to prevent botnets and whatnot. that is right now. next will be illegal porn, then suspicious searchers on google, and likely lead to online profiling of people (if it hasnt already)

this is why net neutrality is so important. do you want every toll booth in america to stop-check you and all your stuff everytime you go driving? but but, they found a leaking exhaust on your car so they stopped you from polluting everyone else's planet! 🙄

 

[ViRGE]

Dude, just stop while you're behind. You're conflating network management with deep packet inspection and censorship to such a large degree that I don't even begin to know how to correct you.

This isn't a privacy issue. This is a network management issue. You can do the latter without impacting the former, as you don't need deep packet inspection to find malware (it sticks out like a sore thumb).

 

[wirednuts]

Dude, just stop while you're behind. You're conflating network management with deep packet inspection and censorship to such a large degree that I don't even begin to know how to correct you.

This isn't a privacy issue. This is a network management issue. You can do the latter without impacting the former, as you don't need deep packet inspection to find malware (it sticks out like a sore thumb).

im sorry i pissed you off so much. ill leave it alone i guess

 

[Cabletek]

We live in the sticks, and even we can choose between DSL, cable, and a wireless service called OneWave. So yeah, I figured most areas have some choice by now.

You misunderstand he has choices he just does not like them as much as he likes TWC mainly due to the fact they have higher speeds over dsl and the reliability and latency over wireless stuff, so instead he claims there is a monopoly and whines when something does not go right instead of just calling them and saying hey I have this message, whats going on? And thus finding out why he is getting it.

He is OBVIOUSLY doing something he knows better than to be doing which is why he came here instead of just went to TWC. He thinks he can find some miracle defense in case they found him doing illegal thing, when most likely its nothing like that, they will just say there is unusual activity on some port and he will say oh its a game/app server I host. Or they will say this is warning #1, you don't get infinite warnings stop doing stupid shit.

But here he can be a drama queen about it...