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Time travel theory avoids grandfather paradox

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This figure shows CTCs through (a) conventional and (b) post-selected teleportation. Image credit: Seth Lloyd, et al.




(PhysOrg.com) -- The possibility of going back in time only to kill your ancestors and prevent your own birth has posed a serious problem for potential time travelers, not even considering the technical details of building a time machine. But a new theory proposed by physicists at MIT suggests that this grandfather paradox could be avoided by using quantum teleportation and "post-selecting" what a time traveler could and could not do. So while murdering one’s relatives is unfortunately possible in the present time, such actions would be strictly forbidden if you were to try them during a trip to the past.

The model of time travel proposed by Seth Lloyd, et al., in a recent paper at arXiv.org arises from their investigation of the quantum mechanics of closed timelike curves (CTCs) and search for a theory of gravity. In simple terms, a CTC is a path of spacetime that returns to its starting point. The existence of CTCs is allowed by Einstein’s general relativity, although it was Gödel who first discovered them. As with other implications of his theories, Einstein was a bit disturbed by CTCs.



In the new paper, the scientists explore a particular version of CTCs based on combining quantum teleportation with post-selection, resulting in a theory of post-selected CTCs (P-CTCs). In quantum teleportation, quantum states are entangled so that one state can be transmitted to the other in a different location. The scientists then applied the concept of post-selection, which is the ability to make a computation automatically accept only certain results and disregard others. In this way, post-selection could ensure that only a certain type of state can be teleported. The states that “qualify” to be teleported are those that have been post-selected to be self-consistent prior to being teleported. Only after it has been identified and approved can the state be teleported, so that, in effect, the state is traveling back in time. Under these conditions, time travel could only occur in a self-consistent, non-paradoxical way.


“The formalism of P-CTCs shows that such quantum time travel can be thought of as a kind of quantum tunneling backwards in time, which can take place even in the absence of a classical path from future to past,” the researchers write in their paper. “Because the theory of P-CTCs relies on post-selection, it provides self-consistent resolutions to such paradoxes: anything that happens in a P-CTC can also happen in conventional quantum mechanics with some probability.”
 
....😕....So wait....[grabs iPhone calculator]....

....what was the MIDDLE part again?.....😵
 
In my understanding, quantum teleportation or time travel works by traveling to a parallel universe. As such, you are not really "traveling back in time" you are just going to another universe which happens to be in the time as your own past. It's not "real" time travel, it just looks like it. Whatever happens there will not have any impact on your own past, because it's NOT your own past in reality, it just seems like it.
 
In my understanding, quantum teleportation or time travel works by traveling to a parallel universe. As such, you are not really "traveling back in time" you are just going to another universe which happens to be in the time as your own past. It's not "real" time travel, it just looks like it. Whatever happens there will not have any impact on your own past, because it's NOT your own past in reality, it just seems like it.

So, there is a paralell universe where I understand this thread?
 
so does that help explain the Terminator movies?

Future John Connor sends back his father in time to save his mother from the Terminator. The whole future came about because they found the parts from the first Terminator. So how did John get conceived if the future events had to happen before the past events?
 
Easy "proof":

If you travel back in time to murder your grand father..you are NOT back in the actual, same time at that (past) date. Because the two pasts, the original one where you were not there and the one where you murder your GF, are two different pasts.
(And will also have a totally different outcome)

From that point of view its not even a paradox...its PROBABLY like that you "simply" change the way how that one path goes..and find yourself not related to that guy who was your GFather in that one past.

The more interesting question...if you could go back in time and murder (what in this one time line/reality) was your GFather.....but then are able to GO BACK in the same original time-line where you started. (This would be paradox and should logically not be possible.)

Eg. i cannot go back in time, kill hitler, and then return back where everyone remembers 3rd reich and hitler,although i killed him before he even came into power...

OP: I dont understand what you posted, even after multiple reading. What is post-selection? What does that theory say? Sorry...lost...
 
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wait according to star trek, and the 28th century space ship relativity, if this was true, archer, kirk, and janeway would not be such a pain in the ass to them.

😛

First off, anything which has to do with time travel is absolutely BS.
Nothing we have right now can explain time travel because we just lack the physics to explain it, thats if physics even exist in that realm.

I serously want whatever those MIT students were smoking to think up some crazy thing like this. It must of been some super good stuff they probably refined in there labs.

Eg. i cannot go back in time, kill hitler, and then return back where everyone remembers 3rd reich and hitler,although i killed him before he even came into power...

Thats called parallel universe.
Which would mean u would of jump'd universe to a location where u actually killed hitler,
And the old universe u were in, no longer exists.
 
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If you travelled back in time and attempted to kill your past parents... you wouldn't create a temporal paradox, but a divergent timeline, where you didn't exist.
 
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