Time to toss Lieberman?

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hal2kilo

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Maybe he would be good in a salad. Can't think of any other good use for Traitor Joe.
 

thraashman

Lifer
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Lieberman is too far right from what I've seen. He's about middle right, which is too far right for a former dem. Really, from what I've seen in Congress in the last 10 years. Republicans are all extreme far right. Most dems are about left middle to slight left. Independents are middle, lean left. Hell, I'm left middle lean a bit far left and I haven't seen a single dem in 10 years who's as far left as me. And then nowadays Republicans would call someone like Reagan, the man that was the epitomy of how right can someone go, to be a man who's too far left to be in the party.

We as a nation need to go back left and get some actual progress going. Something that simply can't happen with the right in charge or really even getting a mild say in things.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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true. liberals don't tolerate divergence of opinion. dump him.

lol. This made me think of that fake map that came out a few years ago that implied that all the red states were dumb and all the blue states were smart.

...you know, there's a reason people believe that map.
 

hal2kilo

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true. liberals don't tolerate divergence of opinion. dump him.

Yea, the Republican party now there's a real example of a divergence in opinion. Ha!...ha!...........ha!........................hah.....................ha.............ha................choke!............hah!....................................................
 

Patranus

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werepossum

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OP, when promoting dumping a liberal who only agrees with the Democrat Party line on 90% of everything it's customary to add a line about how Republicans are marching in lockstep . . .

I love the idea that Lieberman is on the right. "There's 25% of the country that are extreme right, 65% that are far right, and those of us in the middle, the majority." Right. Maybe you libs could ask Scott Brown for some help with your math. Oh wait, he has a job . . .
 

Lemon law

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Lets see,werepossum states, "I love the idea that Lieberman is on the right. "There's 25% of the country that are extreme right, 65% that are far right, and those of us in the middle, the majority."

Well if that is true, it perfectly explains why John McCain was elected to be President in 2008.

Methinks werepossum is far more isolated than he thinks. You can make almost 14 million new friends by wearing EIB apparel and showing support for Rush, but 14 million is very small in a larger US electorate who thinks Rush is a nut case.

As for Lieberman, he guessed horribly wrong on the Iraq war, and now he will pay the political price for it in 2012.
 

werepossum

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Lets see,werepossum states, "I love the idea that Lieberman is on the right. "There's 25% of the country that are extreme right, 65% that are far right, and those of us in the middle, the majority."

Well if that is true, it perfectly explains why John McCain was elected to be President in 2008.

Methinks werepossum is far more isolated than he thinks. You can make almost 14 million new friends by wearing EIB apparel and showing support for Rush, but 14 million is very small in a larger US electorate who thinks Rush is a nut case.

As for Lieberman, he guessed horribly wrong on the Iraq war, and now he will pay the political price for it in 2012.
Sorry, I wasn't clear. I put that in quotes as an example of far-left people who insist they are centrists or nearly so and who regularly describe as "far right" or "extreme right" views to which the majority of Americans ascribe. People can be just shy of Karl himself and try to insist they are "left leaning" or "moderate with some left-leaning views" as though stating that on an Internet forum will convince people that their views are centrist, and I was making fun of that. (Obviously not well. LOL) The far left is a small minority in this country. Likewise Lieberman, possibly the most hated man in the country according to the Daily Kos, is a confirmed lefty, just not a batshit crazy lefty. He's merely strong on defense and Israel, but due to his support for the Iraq war he's been cast as the Senate's Rush Limbaugh. As a result of his "golden shower" by Howlin' Howard Dean and the Democrat Party, he no longer has any need to go along to get along.

As for myself, I'm a pro-gay marriage tree-hugging semi-populist libertarian and I have no problem admitting I'm still considerably right of center, on balance. In fact, I'm proud of it.

Oh, and Limbaugh has around twenty-five million listeners. Beck's number three on the radio and he has more than fourteen million, too.
 

Bitek

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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_CT_107.pdf
Lieberman's approval rating is 25% approve versus 67% who disapprove, making him one of the least popular Senators currently in office.


Ouchy. Good. I hope it reaps what he's sown.

Yup you're right everyone hates him! looks like that might be average for the legislature... ...

So are you ok with the Louisiana purchase or the Nebraska kick backs? Or just hate lieberman?

FWIW, I've thought Lieberman sucked since he was VP cand in 2000, didn't vote for the ticket in part due to him, and its been downhill from there.
He's only gotten worse over the Naughties.

Nelson sucks, as does Reid and Landreu and a few others who just tried to sell their seats. Lieberman is the best one to go as little is lost in doing so. At worst a moderate Rep gets voted in, else a real Dem who won't piss all over the party's agenda. Maybe will be a good warning call to

Reid seems like a limp-wristed wimp, and his sheparding of the Senate in 2009 proved it. Had a tough as nails bitch like Hillary been leader, HC would have been done w/o all the pandering and sweetheart deals, which in the end makes Dems not much better than the shameless Reps they replaced.
 

hal2kilo

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Ouchy. Good. I hope it reaps what he's sown.



FWIW, I've thought Lieberman sucked since he was VP cand in 2000, didn't vote for the ticket in part due to him, and its been downhill from there.
He's only gotten worse over the Naughties.

Nelson sucks, as does Reid and Landreu and a few others who just tried to sell their seats. Lieberman is the best one to go as little is lost in doing so. At worst a moderate Rep gets voted in, else a real Dem who won't piss all over the party's agenda. Maybe will be a good warning call to

Reid seems like a limp-wristed wimp, and his sheparding of the Senate in 2009 proved it. Had a tough as nails bitch like Hillary been leader, HC would have been done w/o all the pandering and sweetheart deals, which in the end makes Dems not much better than the shameless Reps they replaced.

Amen, brother. I just wish the president had figured that out.
 

nageov3t

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as much as people like to shit on Lieberman, all he's done is give cover for other dems who feel the same way about health care.

replace Lieberman with a generic democrat and nothing would have changed.
 

Genx87

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Lieberman is too far right from what I've seen. He's about middle right, which is too far right for a former dem. Really, from what I've seen in Congress in the last 10 years. Republicans are all extreme far right. Most dems are about left middle to slight left. Independents are middle, lean left. Hell, I'm left middle lean a bit far left and I haven't seen a single dem in 10 years who's as far left as me. And then nowadays Republicans would call someone like Reagan, the man that was the epitomy of how right can someone go, to be a man who's too far left to be in the party.

We as a nation need to go back left and get some actual progress going. Something that simply can't happen with the right in charge or really even getting a mild say in things.

lmao your perspective is tainting reality.
 

Lemon law

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Oh Cheer up, Lieberman has now achieved a state of almost bi-partisan bliss and Joe is free to be Joe. All its done is cost him any hope of re-election and his political future.

And while many are down on Reid for being a quote "limp wristed wimp", but because he is tolerant of the political positions of blue dog democrats, the broad center type democrats, and the far left democrats, and acts as a popular moderator between them, do not look for any movement to replace him any time soon.
 

Genx87

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Lets see,werepossum states, "I love the idea that Lieberman is on the right. "There's 25% of the country that are extreme right, 65% that are far right, and those of us in the middle, the majority."

Well if that is true, it perfectly explains why John McCain was elected to be President in 2008.

Methinks werepossum is far more isolated than he thinks. You can make almost 14 million new friends by wearing EIB apparel and showing support for Rush, but 14 million is very small in a larger US electorate who thinks Rush is a nut case.

As for Lieberman, he guessed horribly wrong on the Iraq war, and now he will pay the political price for it in 2012.

I dont think the 08 election had much to do with right vs left. It was more lets get rid of Bush and his party. Your view on Lieberman guessing wrong for his stance on Iraq and will pay for it in 2012 is priceless. Where do some of you come up with your opinions?
 

GarfieldtheCat

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Lieberman is too far right from what I've seen. He's about middle right, which is too far right for a former dem. Really, from what I've seen in Congress in the last 10 years. Republicans are all extreme far right. Most dems are about left middle to slight left. Independents are middle, lean left. Hell, I'm left middle lean a bit far left and I haven't seen a single dem in 10 years who's as far left as me. And then nowadays Republicans would call someone like Reagan, the man that was the epitomy of how right can someone go, to be a man who's too far left to be in the party.

We as a nation need to go back left and get some actual progress going. Something that simply can't happen with the right in charge or really even getting a mild say in things.

Take a look here

Basically all US politicians are "right wing", the main-stream dems are still all to the right of center. Yes, there are isolated people that actually are "left of center", but the mainstream dems, the ones that could run for President, are all still right wing.
 

werepossum

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Take a look here

Basically all US politicians are "right wing", the main-stream dems are still all to the right of center. Yes, there are isolated people that actually are "left of center", but the mainstream dems, the ones that could run for President, are all still right wing.

Okay, Lemon Law, this is a perfect example of what I was trying to spoof. Barack Obama, appointing self-proclaimed communists as his czars, is a right winger. Ron Paul is a far right wacko who is barely libertarian at all. Poor old drunken Ralph Nader, who wants the government to control literally everything, is a libertarian, while the actual libertarian candidate is a far right authoritarian. And Dennis Kucinich is the closest politician to the political center. Honestly, you can't make this stuff up. Take a tiny slice on the far left side of the political scale and you'll inevitably find it screaming that it is the center, alone against the far right and the extreme right, with maybe six Americans on its left. These are the same people that argue that all politicians are to the right (so naturally we should all vote for the most liberal of the bunch, to be good moderates) and that all media have right wing biases - although MSNBC's right wing bias is tolerable, as are the right wing biases of the Democratic Underground, the Huffington Post, the Village Voice, and Pravda - in the old days.

Thanks, Garfield, for posting a perfect example of what I meant.