Time To Raise Prices?Internet Access is Too Cheap

[IGBT]

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It's amazing how slow some things can be in the fast-moving Internet age, and how conservative some companies can be in it. But in order to make the Internet more secure, we're going to have to force some changes in place, because they aren't happening fast enough.

Regular readers might have guessed I'm talking about one of my favorite obsessions, port 25 blocking. I've been writing about it for a long time, arguing that normal consumer ISP accounts should, by default, be blocked from transmitting out port 25 to the Internet. This is the SMTP port, the one used for sending e-mail, and the port used by spam and malware bots.

 

[Kadarin]

The guy who wrote that article is a fvcking retard. "Time to raise prices" in order to block TCP port 25?

 

[mk52]

internet should be free

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: MelikK
internet should be free

Why?

 

[FoBoT]

email/smtp should die die die die die die die die

 

[robphelan]

i'm port 'tarded... if we block port 25, why can't bots use different ports?

 

[yobarman]

uhm i really think the internet is just fine right now. What does raising prices have to do with internet security. Perhapes i will answer my own question when i actually read the article.

 

[AMDZen]

This is very retarded logic.

Besides, his reasoning would do nothing to make the internet "safer" for me any way. Stupid people are always going to open something in their email and infect their machine. The way to a safer internet, is to limit the amount of dumb people allowed on it

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: MelikK
internet should be free

Explain that business model please?

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: MelikK
internet should be free

Explain that business model please?

Why does the internet need a business model ?

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: MelikK
internet should be free

Explain that business model please?

Why does the internet need a business model ?

You think all those routers and fiber just magically sprout up out of the ground let alone the power to run it all? :roll:

 

[Looney]

That guy's a moron.

 

[IGBT]

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: MelikK
internet should be free

Explain that business model please?

Why does the internet need a business model ?

..internet infrastructure costs money..time and lots of maintaince. Users pay for it.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: MelikK
internet should be free

Explain that business model please?

Why does the internet need a business model ?

..internet infrastructure costs money..time and lots of maintaince. Users pay for it.

That doesn't mean that's the only way to have an internet, or that it's the best way to do it. At least it's possible to have it other ways.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: MelikK
internet should be free

Explain that business model please?

Why does the internet need a business model ?

..internet infrastructure costs money..time and lots of maintaince. Users pay for it.

That doesn't mean that's the only way to have an internet, or that it's the best way to do it. At least it's possible to have it other ways.

Got any suggestions? Preferably ones that are cheaper, and wouldn't cost an arm and a leg to implement.

 

[George P Burdell]

Originally posted by: IGBT
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Geez, who peed in that guys cereal??

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: robphelan
i'm port 'tarded... if we block port 25, why can't bots use different ports?

Because the article cited by the OP is not quite correct when he says "transmitting out port 25 to the Internet". Every TCP connection has a source port and a destination port, and the destination (listening) port for smtp is TCP port 25. Sure, the bot can be programmed to attempt to open connections to a different TCP port, but there won't be any smtp servers out there listening.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: MelikK
internet should be free

Explain that business model please?

Why does the internet need a business model ?

..internet infrastructure costs money..time and lots of maintaince. Users pay for it.

That doesn't mean that's the only way to have an internet, or that it's the best way to do it. At least it's possible to have it other ways.

Got any suggestions? Preferably ones that are cheaper, and wouldn't cost an arm and a leg to implement.

Well, I don't like the idea of the biggest scammers in history, namely the cable tv and telephone companies, being the providers.

I'd rather have the US Post Office run it. This probably seems funny at first, but if you look at the reasons why the post office was created, I think it fits.

 

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Tom
That doesn't mean that's the only way to have an internet, or that it's the best way to do it. At least it's possible to have it other ways.

Got any suggestions? Preferably ones that are cheaper, and wouldn't cost an arm and a leg to implement.

Recently I've been hearing about plans to implement Powerline Networking at a utility level. It would be subsidized by the government, would require no effort on the part of the user (other than aquiring a special HomePlug adaptor and hooking it up to the computer) and would require minimal equipment costs, certainly less than what it would cost to create wireless hotspots throughout a city. I'm not saying it would be dirt cheap, but it sounds both more elegant and less costly than anything other plan I've heard of recently.

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: MelikK
internet should be free

Explain that business model please?

Why does the internet need a business model ?

Hate to tell you but the internet is now a commodity. The real money to be made in the internet game is the control of content.

 

[BudAshes]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: MelikK
internet should be free

Explain that business model please?

Why does the internet need a business model ?

You think all those routers and fiber just magically sprout up out of the ground let alone the power to run it all? :roll:

im guessing he means paid for by the government, ie taxes

 

[IGBT]

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Tom
That doesn't mean that's the only way to have an internet, or that it's the best way to do it. At least it's possible to have it other ways.

Got any suggestions? Preferably ones that are cheaper, and wouldn't cost an arm and a leg to implement.

Recently I've been hearing about plans to implement Powerline Networking at a utility level. It would be subsidized by the government, would require no effort on the part of the user (other than aquiring a special HomePlug adaptor and hooking it up to the computer) and would require minimal equipment costs, certainly less than what it would cost to create wireless hotspots throughout a city. I'm not saying it would be dirt cheap, but it sounds both more elegant and less costly than anything other plan I've heard of recently.

..is that BPL?? it's deployed in a few places around the globe wit mixed results. Costs about 25.00 bucks a month for DSL similar speeds. They have to hang big fuggen modems on the top of utility poles.