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Danman

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Nov 9, 1999
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Skoorb,

Not to argue with you, but I kind of look at a soldier and I see someone who puts their life on the line for our freedom. A bus driver doesn't do that. Nor does a surgeon. I know many soldiers that died over there so we can keep a stable economy and we can keep the rights that our fathers gave us. That's what a soldier is. I have so much respect for someone that can do that.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Some people did their job. Lets make them person of the year!
not everyone's job changes so that they have to go to Iraq and fight a war that may cost them their life.
 

StageLeft

No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: cashman
Skoorb,

Not to argue with you, but I kind of look at a soldier and I see someone who puts their life on the line for our freedom. A bus driver doesn't do that. Nor does a surgeon. I know many soldiers that died over there so we can keep a stable economy and we can keep the rights that our fathers gave us. That's what a soldier is. I have so much respect for someone that can do that.
OK, but a group of people still isn't a person :)

 

Danman

Lifer
Nov 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: cashman
Skoorb,

Not to argue with you, but I kind of look at a soldier and I see someone who puts their life on the line for our freedom. A bus driver doesn't do that. Nor does a surgeon. I know many soldiers that died over there so we can keep a stable economy and we can keep the rights that our fathers gave us. That's what a soldier is. I have so much respect for someone that can do that.
OK, but a group of people still isn't a person :)

Would you feel better if they said "People of the Year?" :D
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: cashman
Skoorb,

Not to argue with you, but I kind of look at a soldier and I see someone who puts their life on the line for our freedom. A bus driver doesn't do that. Nor does a surgeon. I know many soldiers that died over there so we can keep a stable economy and we can keep the rights that our fathers gave us. That's what a soldier is. I have so much respect for someone that can do that.
OK, but a group of people still isn't a person :)
i'll give ya that one ;)
 

StageLeft

No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: cashman
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: cashman
Skoorb,

Not to argue with you, but I kind of look at a soldier and I see someone who puts their life on the line for our freedom. A bus driver doesn't do that. Nor does a surgeon. I know many soldiers that died over there so we can keep a stable economy and we can keep the rights that our fathers gave us. That's what a soldier is. I have so much respect for someone that can do that.
OK, but a group of people still isn't a person :)

Would you feel better if they said "People of the Year?" :D
Good God yes! Heck, I'd even think about agreeing with them :p

 

ThaGrandCow

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Dec 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: cashman
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: cashman
Skoorb,

Not to argue with you, but I kind of look at a soldier and I see someone who puts their life on the line for our freedom. A bus driver doesn't do that. Nor does a surgeon. I know many soldiers that died over there so we can keep a stable economy and we can keep the rights that our fathers gave us. That's what a soldier is. I have so much respect for someone that can do that.
OK, but a group of people still isn't a person :)

Would you feel better if they said "People of the Year?" :D
Good God yes! Heck, I'd even think about agreeing with them :p

Who would you pick then?
 

mooojojojo

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Jul 15, 2002
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Originally posted by: moshquerade

and i agree with Time's person(s) of the year. i appreciate that these people put their lives on the line for our freedoms.
I'm sure the entire forum is not going to like my comment, but you americans have to be insanely dense to really think that you (and I don't mean you personally, but the US in general) fight for ANY freedoms.

You also have to be really shortsighted not to see how biased your media are. One quote from CNN.com which I think is demonstrative enough is about the attack in which the US military killed 7 children - the article was called something along the lines of "Iraquis are understanding of children's deaths".

I'd write some more like how the US selectively designates terrorists (the chechens being freedom fighters, and not terrorists) but I try to steer clear from the ATOT political threads since it's useless arguing with you and trying to show you something you don't want to see. That said I won't return to the thread to read any replies so you can keep your personal attacks to yourself.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: mooojojojo
Originally posted by: moshquerade

and i agree with Time's person(s) of the year. i appreciate that these people put their lives on the line for our freedoms.
I'm sure the entire forum is not going to like my comment, but you americans have to be insanely dense to really think that you (and I don't mean you personally, but the US in general) fight for ANY freedoms.

You also have to be really shortsighted not to see how biased your media are. One quote from CNN.com which I think is demonstrative enough is about the attack in which the US military killed 7 children - the article was called something along the lines of "Iraquis are understanding of children's deaths".

I'd write some more like how the US selectively designates terrorists (the chechens being freedom fighters, and not terrorists) but I try to steer clear from the ATOT political threads since it's useless arguing with you and trying to show you something you don't want to see. That said I won't return to the thread to read any replies so you can keep your personal attacks to yourself.
oh yeh, you'll read the replies. who are you trying to kid? :p
you may have your opinion, and i will have mine. case closed.

 

BigJelly

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Mar 7, 2002
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Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow
As a member of the military myself, that hurts.

On the other hand I also
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ed when I saw that they gave it to the soldiers. Time has given the person of the year to groups of people the last couple of years. It's prettymuch a cop-out. It went to the whistleblowers last year I believe, and didn't it also go to the firefighters or policemen in 2001? Get back to giving it to one specific person.
i agree with ya ThaGrandCow, Time is too chicken to pick out ONE person.

I say pick Saddam as man of the year. The award doesn't go to the most helpful person, it goes to the most influential person of the year, either good or bad. The main reason we sent over our thousands of troops and began the war was because of Saddam. If that's not the most influential person this year I can't think of who is.

We know either saddam or Bush were huge contenders for this. The reason saddam wasn't picked is simple, and is the same reason bin laden wasn't picked in 2001, the middle easterners are oppressed by the government. The main weapon used by these governments, to oppress the people, is education or the lack there of (its the same damn thing that happened during recontruction till the civil rights movement for blacks in america). If they pick saddam, uneducated middle-easterners (the vast majority) think that means he is the best person in the world. Let me just make this clear, middle easterners are not stupid they are uneducated. Time understands this (educated people think this through and come to the same conclusion). Hitler was picked because the germans and the rest of the world understood the idea of man of the year (at the time man of the year not person of the year).

The fact that they picked the US troops was great. Only wish they could of added British, Spainish, Polish, Austrialian, Italian, and other troops from other countries that HELPED free Iraq too. American (and other countries that were part of the coalition) troops came, saw, and kicked some serious @ss. Yes casualties occured and will still occure, but comepared to just 60 years ago our casualties are extremely small. American soldiers had to endure insain heat (140 degrees F) and fight a war where the enemy could be dressed as civilians, while minimizing civilian casualities. I cant think of any other person(s) that deserve this cover on Time.

Who knows next year the person of the year could be putin or cheriaqu--after we get the info from saddam. I think france and russia are scared sh!tless of what saddam might reveal about how these countries and their support of him. :|
 

Danman

Lifer
Nov 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: cashman
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: cashman
Skoorb,

Not to argue with you, but I kind of look at a soldier and I see someone who puts their life on the line for our freedom. A bus driver doesn't do that. Nor does a surgeon. I know many soldiers that died over there so we can keep a stable economy and we can keep the rights that our fathers gave us. That's what a soldier is. I have so much respect for someone that can do that.
OK, but a group of people still isn't a person :)

Would you feel better if they said "People of the Year?" :D
Good God yes! Heck, I'd even think about agreeing with them :p

Okay, so you think it's how they presented this "award?" Well then.
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
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doesnt the person of the year get $?

if so, they going tomail each soldier a $1 check?
 

Miramonti

Lifer
Aug 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: mooojojojo
Originally posted by: moshquerade

and i agree with Time's person(s) of the year. i appreciate that these people put their lives on the line for our freedoms.
I'm sure the entire forum is not going to like my comment, but you americans have to be insanely dense to really think that you (and I don't mean you personally, but the US in general) fight for ANY freedoms.

You also have to be really shortsighted not to see how biased your media are. One quote from CNN.com which I think is demonstrative enough is about the attack in which the US military killed 7 children - the article was called something along the lines of "Iraquis are understanding of children's deaths".

I'd write some more like how the US selectively designates terrorists (the chechens being freedom fighters, and not terrorists) but I try to steer clear from the ATOT political threads since it's useless arguing with you and trying to show you something you don't want to see. That said I won't return to the thread to read any replies so you can keep your personal attacks to yourself.

Not everyone tows Bush's braindead line.

There are plenty of similar discussions (arguements) on the P&N board as well, where you can voice opinions like this without feeling your country will be bombed as a result.

 

geno

Lifer
Dec 26, 1999
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I have to say that Time was giving a hand job to the public's patriotism on this one. Calling it cheesy would be a vast understatement. Person of the year should denote a person of significance. One who has changed the world in a significant way. You drop the average US soldier out of the military and it's the same military. On a single basis they are of little significance (that's why the military has thousands of them, you see).

Time could have given the award to a general or to Bush as head of the military, but giving it to the "individual soldier" is like calling mentally retarded kids special, or taking away graded exams in school so that the stupid kids don't feel bad about themselves.

Soldiers are no more an integral part of our society than bus drivers. Won't don't they get a pat on the head too? Oh, that's right - because there are thousands of them and no single one is of much importance to anybody except their immediate family.

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Go back to Soviet Russia, commie!