time for the monthly "Due for my ATT upgrade" post

[Red Storm]

If it's between a L1020 and a iPhone 5S, then I think you just have to decide what's more important. Ecosystem or Camera?

What about the new Sony? Seems like a good compromise of both.

 

[Ns1]

If it's between a L1020 and a iPhone 5S, then I think you just have to decide what's more important. Ecosystem or Camera?

Yeah pretty much where I'm at. Also $199 vs $299 (i need 32gb)

 

[Ns1]

What about the new Sony? Seems like a good compromise of both.

No known US release date. But it would be in the running otherwise. Sick sick phone.

 

[podspi]

Because note has a monopoly on phones with stylus'. And I want a freaking stylus. Thus is my dilemma.

Which brings me to one of my other posts - if I pull the trigger on a surface pro later, that's got a stylus so I don't need one on my phone. And if that's the case, note is out of consideration and we're back to Nokia 1020 vs iPhone 5s.

If you're considering the surface pro or any tablet PC, just forget the note entirely. If you actually want to use this to take notes (during meetings or classes) the note is going to be a bit cramped, think trying to take notes on a large postit or paper pad. Last year I switched to an ATIV 500t (11.5"), and I miss the extra writing space I used to have with my old 14" tablet PC.

Now, I don't have a Windows Phone, so don't think I'm giving you a strong recommendation to get one, but if you want to take notes, you are going to want to use Onenote. And if you use Onenote, you can sync those notes to your Skydrive, which should (someone correct me if I'm wrong) sync to your phone. Pretty cool.

 

[Ns1]

If you're considering the surface pro or any tablet PC, just forget the note entirely. If you actually want to use this to take notes (during meetings or classes) the note is going to be a bit cramped, think trying to take notes on a large postit or paper pad. Last year I switched to an ATIV 500t (11.5"), and I miss the extra writing space I used to have with my old 14" tablet PC.

Now, I don't have a Windows Phone, so don't think I'm giving you a strong recommendation to get one, but if you want to take notes, you are going to want to use Onenote. And if you use Onenote, you can sync those notes to your Skydrive, which should (someone correct me if I'm wrong) sync to your phone. Pretty cool.

A compelling argument for the 1020...

 

[sweenish]

If you're considering the surface pro or any tablet PC, just forget the note entirely. If you actually want to use this to take notes (during meetings or classes) the note is going to be a bit cramped, think trying to take notes on a large postit or paper pad. Last year I switched to an ATIV 500t (11.5"), and I miss the extra writing space I used to have with my old 14" tablet PC.

Now, I don't have a Windows Phone, so don't think I'm giving you a strong recommendation to get one, but if you want to take notes, you are going to want to use Onenote. And if you use Onenote, you can sync those notes to your Skydrive, which should (someone correct me if I'm wrong) sync to your phone. Pretty cool.

Note taking is a done deal on any platform. Evernote syncs across web and devices. Apple has a bajillion note taking apps that will sync with iCloud or Dropbox. Android has it's share as well. Hardly a decision maker.

 

[RandomFool]

Note taking is a done deal on any platform. Evernote syncs across web and devices. Apple has a bajillion note taking apps that will sync with iCloud or Dropbox. Android has it's share as well. Hardly a decision maker.

I don't know. OneNote on the Surface Pro with the pen is tough to beat imo. Although, I've never liked typing my notes anyway.

 

[dawheat]

Note taking is a done deal on any platform. Evernote syncs across web and devices. Apple has a bajillion note taking apps that will sync with iCloud or Dropbox. Android has it's share as well. Hardly a decision maker.

I will say taking notes via a stylus is way more effective to me - meetings or working sessions rarely have info or decisions made sequentially, instead you constantly go back based on new information, change decisions, or add extensions.

Being able to write as well as draw diagrams/flows as well as link/circle/box/connect with lines different ideas is a big plus to me.

So decide whether keyboard note taking is sufficient for you or whether you want something more free formed. Then decide on what size footprint you need.

 

[podspi]

Note taking is a done deal on any platform. Evernote syncs across web and devices. Apple has a bajillion note taking apps that will sync with iCloud or Dropbox. Android has it's share as well. Hardly a decision maker.

Well, Apple isn't in the running because they do not have any active styluses that I am aware of, and taking notes with a capacitive stylus on a 3.5" screen just sounds like a good way to have a bad time . I also wouldn't really consider the iPad a true competitor to the Surface Pro (Apple would agree!), which isn't necessarily a good thing (see: sales of both tablets), but if you are looking at a Surface Pro for taking notes, I doubt your second choice would be an iPad. The Surface is much more capable, able to run any legacy x86 app and office.

Really the advantage to using a Tablet PC vs. anything else is Onenote. I know someone with the original Thinkpad Tablet, and he says the notetaking apps are terrible compared to Onenote. He was very jealous of my 500T when I showed it to him, and this is someone with the Thinkpad (with active stylus, android based) and an iPad Mini and capacitive stylus. Anecdotally, whenever someone taking notes with an iPad + capacitive stylus has seen either of my Table PCs (the 500T, and a Gateway from 2007) they are always impressed at the quality of notes that they can take.


Finally, I don't know about other note taking programs, but syncing Onenote with Dropbox or Sugarsync is an absolute nightmare. Sometimes it works perfectly, sometimes the notebooks get out of sync, they never update, etc. I have actually been on support with Dropbox and Sugarsync, and apparently (they claim anyway) it has something to do with the file format, and that they don't support database files. YMMV, but Skydrive is the only thing I've used where it works perfectly every time.

Rereading this, I kind of come off as a Tablet PC snob, which maybe I am... Honestly I'd characterize myself as a Wacom snob, but I really do love the combination of Wacom + Onenote. As for WP, eh. I only had a WP for a week before I flipped it, so that is something I can comment on less about

 

[Ns1]

Note taking is a done deal on any platform. Evernote syncs across web and devices. Apple has a bajillion note taking apps that will sync with iCloud or Dropbox. Android has it's share as well. Hardly a decision maker.

Only 2 of those platforms have wacom style stylus implementation.

Of course, the one platform that doesn't is the one I'm most embedded in.

Being able to write as well as draw diagrams/flows as well as link/circle/box/connect with lines different ideas is a big plus to me.

bingo. My "meeting notes" are not easily done via keyboard.

 

[lopri]

When I had Verizon I would go to a store, do the upgrade to get the iPhone. Then when I had found a buyer, they take the phone and until I got a new phone Verizon just assumed I still had that iPhone.

As long as you don't report it stolen, they'll be able to simply pop their SIM in to it and everything will be fine. Just keep your SIM and pop it in to the phone you're keeping and it will automatically reprogram the MEID of the CDMA side so you can make voice calls but, in my experience, this takes about 20-30 minutes and a reboot.

This is assuming, of course, that the person you're selling it to is coming from a LTE phone and that you currently have an LTE phone you're going to be using instead of the new iPhone.

Thank you both. I am familiar with swapping SIMs. I wasn't sure of contract-related risks. So I should make sure that the person who buys a phone from me knows what s/he is getting, right? (carriers, network compatibility, etc.) And as long as I pay my phone bill (which is tied to my number, or SIM) the carrier won't know/care that I am using a different phone than the one I contract for?

edit: Which is better, do it online or at a store?

 

[Red Storm]

Thank you both. I am familiar with swapping SIMs. I wasn't sure of contract-related risks. So I should make sure that the person who buys a phone from me knows what s/he is getting, right? (carriers, network compatibility, etc.) And as long as I pay my phone bill (which is tied to my number, or SIM) the carrier won't know/care that I am using a different phone than the one I contract for?

edit: Which is better, do it online or at a store?

I do it in store, but that's usually because I'm selling the phone in store to make the buyer feel more safe about it (they can verify right away that all is well), and then I sometimes buy right after and have the rep set the phone up.

 

[lopri]

Oh? So the store folks don't mind it at all?

 

[Red Storm]

Oh? So the store folks don't mind it at all?

I've done it half a dozen times right in the store, even explaining what I'm doing, they don't care. Why would they? Verizon doesn't care if you sell your phone or toss it off a cliff, as long as your contract is still active and you keep paying.

 

[lopri]

Hmm.. I guess I should look for a local who likes to buy a phone outright. If i find such a person I can even give her/him choices? Interesting.

 

[lopri]

Well, earlier in the thread I questioned the OP for seemingly incompatible needs/wants on his choice between the iPhone 5S and the Note 3. Now I find myself in a similar situation. Not for my personal use, but to make profit by selling it after I get a new one using my upgrade.

It seems like I can get the most profit out of either the Note 3 and the iPhone 5S. Decisions.. decisions..

 

[Ns1]

Well, earlier in the thread I questioned the OP for seemingly incompatible needs/wants on his choice between the iPhone 5S and the Note 3. Now I find myself in a similar situation. Not for my personal use, but to make profit by selling it after I get a new one using my upgrade.

It seems like I can get the most profit out of either the Note 3 and the iPhone 5S. Decisions.. decisions..

Already pulled the trigger on 5s. If profit margin high enough I sell. If not I keep.

 

[ponyo]

Well, earlier in the thread I questioned the OP for seemingly incompatible needs/wants on his choice between the iPhone 5S and the Note 3. Now I find myself in a similar situation. Not for my personal use, but to make profit by selling it after I get a new one using my upgrade.

It seems like I can get the most profit out of either the Note 3 and the iPhone 5S. Decisions.. decisions..

Note 3 is $300 subsidized. I think the $100 premium will be harder to recover compared to 16gb 5s.