Time for a new MP3 player!

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: werk

Originally posted by: Gurck
I'd go with the x5, Karma supports gapless playback and may sound slightly better, but in exchange you get radio, recording and true UMS support.

No ID3 tag DB, though...File tree browsing sucks.

Is your collection very messy? Personally I prefer directory structure sorting & browsing, but then my collection is meticulously organized.

Nope, rips go to artist/album subdirectories. Very organized. Just personal preference. Plus ID3 tags allow for neat things like searching by genre, rating, etc.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Another one to consider, Archos Gmini 400.

Played with one yesterday, it would be a fun little toy.

Viper GTS

Thanks. I'm always wary of Archos after experience with their early products, but I'd be willing to give them a second chance. I'm reading the THG review now. I'm also somewhat considering the Samsung YH-999 PMC since it integrates with MCE2k5 so well. I just wish it had more storage. :|

 

[Anubis]

how about a Zen touch 40 gig or a iAudio M3L - 40GB & it has a 40 hour battery

 

[austin316]

I like some of your options, but why wouldn't you consider an Ipod?

 

[Gurck]

Ipod proponents sure are displaying some elite reading skills in this thread

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: Anubis
how about a Zen touch 40 gig or a iAudio M3L - 40GB & it has a 40 hour battery

I'm not that concerned about battery life. As long as it gets 10-14 hours, I'm happy. The Zen Touch is a consideration, but it's a little bigger than the others. It doesn't really offer anything outside of price and battery life that makes it stand out IMO. M3L also lacks ID3 database functionality, no?

Originally posted by: austin316
I like some of your options, but why wouldn't you consider an Ipod?

Learn to read.

 

[ed21x]

check out RCA's offering- i've heard good things from them. Of that list, I would definitely choose the Cowon iAudio x5 simply based on features and size. You also might want to give the iRiver h20 a shot.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: werk

Originally posted by: Anubis
how about a Zen touch 40 gig or a iAudio M3L - 40GB & it has a 40 hour battery

I'm not that concerned about battery life. As long as it gets 10-14 hours, I'm happy. The Zen Touch is a consideration, but it's a little bigger than the others. It doesn't really offer anything outside of price and battery life that makes it stand out IMO. M3L also lacks ID3 database functionality, no?

Originally posted by: austin316
I like some of your options, but why wouldn't you consider an Ipod?

Learn to read.

i have no idea about the id3 tage and dont see why its an issue

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: Anubis
how about a Zen touch 40 gig or a iAudio M3L - 40GB & it has a 40 hour battery

oh, definitely, under all circumstances, do NOT get the M3L or x5L! Those things are HUGE! stick with the original M3 or x5, or even the m5, which is a b/w version of the x5.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: werk

Originally posted by: Anubis
how about a Zen touch 40 gig or a iAudio M3L - 40GB & it has a 40 hour battery

I'm not that concerned about battery life. As long as it gets 10-14 hours, I'm happy. The Zen Touch is a consideration, but it's a little bigger than the others. It doesn't really offer anything outside of price and battery life that makes it stand out IMO. M3L also lacks ID3 database functionality, no?

Originally posted by: austin316
I like some of your options, but why wouldn't you consider an Ipod?

Learn to read.

i have no idea about the id3 tage and dont see why its an issue

Because I don't like filetree browsing for music. It keeps the x5 out of the running unless they come out with updated firmware in the next month or so (purchase timeline). Honestly, how can a modern DAP not support ID3???

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: ed21x

Originally posted by: Anubis
how about a Zen touch 40 gig or a iAudio M3L - 40GB & it has a 40 hour battery

oh, definitely, under all circumstances, do NOT get the M3L or x5L! Those things are HUGE! stick with the original M3 or x5, or even the m5, which is a b/w version of the x5.

eh the m3 is smaller then the ipod, IIRC m3l is teh same size

 

[ed21x]

i have no idea about the id3 tage and dont see why its an issue

id3 tags enable you to index your files based on multiple categories. This makes searching much easier, faster, and more flexible. I use to think filetree was adequate as well until someone showed me an indexed iPod, and I started using id3 tags on my iRiver

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: ed21x

Originally posted by: Anubis
how about a Zen touch 40 gig or a iAudio M3L - 40GB & it has a 40 hour battery

oh, definitely, under all circumstances, do NOT get the M3L or x5L! Those things are HUGE! stick with the original M3 or x5, or even the m5, which is a b/w version of the x5.

eh the m3 is smaller then the ipod, IIRC m3l is teh same size

whoop! I thought the trend between the X5 and X5L are the same scratch that last comment

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: werk

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: werk

Originally posted by: Anubis
how about a Zen touch 40 gig or a iAudio M3L - 40GB & it has a 40 hour battery

I'm not that concerned about battery life. As long as it gets 10-14 hours, I'm happy. The Zen Touch is a consideration, but it's a little bigger than the others. It doesn't really offer anything outside of price and battery life that makes it stand out IMO. M3L also lacks ID3 database functionality, no?

Originally posted by: austin316
I like some of your options, but why wouldn't you consider an Ipod?

Learn to read.

i have no idea about the id3 tage and dont see why its an issue

Because I don't like filetree browsing for music. It keeps the x5 out of the running unless they come out with updated firmware in the next month or so (purchase timeline). Honestly, how can a modern DAP not support ID3???

because Cowon caters to the korean market where people don't use id3 try checking out www.dapreview.com <~ they seem to know a great deal about mp3 players.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: ed21x

i have no idea about the id3 tage and dont see why its an issue

id3 tags enable you to index your files based on multiple categories. This makes searching much easier, faster, and more flexible. I use to think filetree was adequate as well until someone showed me an indexed iPod, and I started using id3 tags on my iRiver

yea i know how they work i just dont see it as an issue

i have about 30 gigs of music on my mp3 player and i just have it setto randomally play any song out of about 5000

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: ed21x

i have no idea about the id3 tage and dont see why its an issue

id3 tags enable you to index your files based on multiple categories. This makes searching much easier, faster, and more flexible. I use to think filetree was adequate as well until someone showed me an indexed iPod, and I started using id3 tags on my iRiver

anyone have any idea if id3 tags will be supported or not for the x5? i need a replacement for my karma also.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: ed21x

i have no idea about the id3 tage and dont see why its an issue

id3 tags enable you to index your files based on multiple categories. This makes searching much easier, faster, and more flexible. I use to think filetree was adequate as well until someone showed me an indexed iPod, and I started using id3 tags on my iRiver

anyone have any idea if id3 tags will be supported or not for the x5? i need a replacement for my karma also.

hrm...actually, I was incorrect in my OP, the info on ID3 databasing was from iAudiophile's review, not DAPreview. And it doesn't look like it's coming any time soon, if ever. :|

Now that I've seen the 40GB Gigabeat at Buy.com for $350, I'm almost 100% sure that's what I'll get at the end of the month. Hopefully it'll be in stock by then and maybe even cheaper.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: ed21x
check out RCA's offering- i've heard good things from them. Of that list, I would definitely choose the Cowon iAudio x5 simply based on features and size. You also might want to give the iRiver h20 a shot.

You mean the H10 20GB? I'd like more storage. It is nice though. I also briefly considered the H300, my friend has one...I wasn't too impressed.

I'm looking at the RCA Lyra offerings now...man that tiny 5GB player they have looks sweet. I don't see any 30GB+ players on their site though...

Anyone else have any recommendations besides what has been mentioned?

Requirements are:

>20GB storage
WMA support (Janus DRM support is a plus)
Not too big
Color screen is good, not a dealbreaker though
USB Mass storage would be nice, also not a dealbreaker

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: werk

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: ed21x

i have no idea about the id3 tage and dont see why its an issue

id3 tags enable you to index your files based on multiple categories. This makes searching much easier, faster, and more flexible. I use to think filetree was adequate as well until someone showed me an indexed iPod, and I started using id3 tags on my iRiver

anyone have any idea if id3 tags will be supported or not for the x5? i need a replacement for my karma also.

hrm...actually, I was incorrect in my OP, the info on ID3 databasing was from iAudiophile's review, not DAPreview. And it doesn't look like it's coming any time soon, if ever. :|

Now that I've seen the 40GB Gigabeat at Buy.com for $350, I'm almost 100% sure that's what I'll get at the end of the month. Hopefully it'll be in stock by then and maybe even cheaper.

wow i have to say, i didnt like the gigabeat initially but im starting to like it more and more now. i notice it has a touchpad. thought it was just a cross shaped button. might just have to get a sexy black one for myself.
edit:
best price i could get on a black 20gb was $306 shipped not bad, but signifigantly higher than i paid for my karma($177 shipped)

 

[mrrman]

should add iRiver to the poll...thats my fav and I love mine

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: werk

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: ed21x

i have no idea about the id3 tage and dont see why its an issue

id3 tags enable you to index your files based on multiple categories. This makes searching much easier, faster, and more flexible. I use to think filetree was adequate as well until someone showed me an indexed iPod, and I started using id3 tags on my iRiver

anyone have any idea if id3 tags will be supported or not for the x5? i need a replacement for my karma also.

hrm...actually, I was incorrect in my OP, the info on ID3 databasing was from iAudiophile's review, not DAPreview. And it doesn't look like it's coming any time soon, if ever. :|

Now that I've seen the 40GB Gigabeat at Buy.com for $350, I'm almost 100% sure that's what I'll get at the end of the month. Hopefully it'll be in stock by then and maybe even cheaper.

wow i have to say, i didnt like the gigabeat initially but im starting to like it more and more now. i notice it has a touchpad. thought it was just a cross shaped button. might just have to get a sexy black one for myself.
edit:
best price i could get on a black 20gb was $306 shipped not bad, but signifigantly higher than i paid for my karma($177 shipped)

I know...it's really grown on me too. Check out http://www.mygigabeat.com for some pics and first impressions.

 

[AnyMal]

Iriver H10 20GB version!

 

[mwmorph]

anynoe know if gigabeat allows creatino of on the fly playlists or at least lets me add tracks to the now playing order? if not the fromer, the latter is a necessity for me. also how long is the gap between songs on the gigabeat?

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
anynoe know if gigabeat allows creatino of on the fly playlists or at least lets me add tracks to the now playing order? if not the fromer, the latter is a necessity for me. also how long is the gap between songs on the gigabeat?

After some searching, I've found it doesn't do on the fly playlists, and I'm not sure about the second. No clue about the gap, either. I'd ask in the mygigabeat forum, Tomas seems to be happy to test anything out you may ask. Hopefully by the end of the month, Toshiba should be in full swing selling these suckers in the US and we'll see more reviews and in-depth info on them.

Here's some great pics of the F20 and a comparison with the iPod (Japanese link).

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: werk

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Another one to consider, Archos Gmini 400.

Played with one yesterday, it would be a fun little toy.

Viper GTS

Thanks. I'm always wary of Archos after experience with their early products, but I'd be willing to give them a second chance. I'm reading the THG review now. I'm also somewhat considering the Samsung YH-999 PMC since it integrates with MCE2k5 so well. I just wish it had more storage. :|

I just played with the GMini 400 at DataVision. I'm impressed..the screen is great, it's TINY, and the build quality is much better than their previous products. If only it had more space and the menu system wasn't so damn bad. I couldn't even figure out how to turn the damn thing off!