Time for a new mouse!

PygmyBBQ

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I think it's that time for me to get a new mouse. I'm using this old Razer Viper that's barely still alive. Anyways, the specific mouse I'm looking at is the Logitech VX revolution. I can't find any reviews on it and I was wondering if it was a good mouse to use for my desktop, which I use primarily for gaming. Otherwise, I'm basically looking for a gaming mouse (preferably cordless) but so far the best deal I've found is the VX at 29.99. Does anyone think they have better options for me? Thanks
 

shortylickens

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How can your Razer Viper barely be alive?
I've had mine for several years and it works great.
Are you whipping that thing around like a flail?
 

PygmyBBQ

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I've had it since they first came out, like 3-4 years ago? The buttons don't work anymore that well and the triggers on them don't stay held down. Sometimes it'll go through a phase where the sensor will turn off and it'll take 5 seconds of moving to turn back on.
 

ivan2

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Not sure about the VX but if you like the razer, you can try to check woot.com daily. They had sold a lot "professional" diamondback, the white one, for very cheap.
 

agathodaimon

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Love my MX580.
I had a cordless mouse, but hated how it acted in games. It just didn't "feel" right.
 

PygmyBBQ

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Yeah, I check woot all the time, but who knows how long till they put another mouse up. I know what you're talking about with the cordless mice, but supposedly the logitech revolutions don't have that problem. I've only heard from one person that it has lag in gaming. Hopefully more people have experience with this mouse and could let me know what they think about it as a gaming solution.
 

Ika

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$30 on the VX is a great deal (PriceGrabber places it at $57+). However, it's still probably best to go to some B&M store to make sure you really like the feel of it. Personally, I'm bothered by the smart wheel thing and would prefer a simple button or two... and I definitely do not like the feel of Razer's mice. But thats my opinion...
 

Canai

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Stay away from Razer, at least until they fix the disconnect/reconnect issue. Go here and search the page for 'disconnect' if you doubt the validity of the issue. AND that's just a random Razer blog page, not even the official tech support area. (My less-than-seven-month-old Habu died this week, so I'm fairly bitter towards any Razer mice right now, and it seems a lot of people share my sentiment.)

That said, I bought a G5 yesterday, and I love it. It feels great, has a braided cable, tilt-scroll, DPI adjustments on the fly via buttons on the mouse, and a weight cartridge so you can adjust the balance of the mouse. Plus it has Teflon pads so it'll glide over just about anything.
 

deadken

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Since it seems that you are a gamer my ONLY recomendation would have to be this A4Tech mouse. It is by far the best mouse I have ever used. It is a laser mouse with 6 different 'resolutions' (or whatever you would call the sensitivity settings) with a button that lets you change the resolution on the fly (the scroll wheel lights up with different colors to let you know what setting you are on). It also has a super thin wire that is so flexible it makes you think that you are using a wireless mouse. And lastly it has a 3x Fire button, simply put it is like hitting the fire button three times faster then your finger could do it. In BF2 Knife and Pistol only maps I use the 3x fire button for an advantage, it makes a pistol feel like a burst automatic rifle. I enjoy switching the sensitivity when I get into a Jet or take the Sniper kit. The increased sensitivity lets you outmanuver most other pilots and when playing a sniper you can set up headshots with ease.

To make this mouse perfect, it has been priced very affordable. I am telling you as a guy who has had M$ and Logitech mice, that while I like those other mice I LOVE this mouse. Nothing I have used has come close to this.

TRUST ME... You won't be sorry.

EDIT: HERE is a link directly to the A4Tech website.
 

karioskasra

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Deadken, I've been in the same boat as you. My last two mice were Logitech cordless lasers (currently on an MX Revolution) and they are truly the worst gaming mice in existence. I was about to pull the plug on a Razer until I read your post, and the only thing driving my skepticism is how something with those specs can go for $22. I guess I'll find out when my A4Tech X750BF arrives.
 

deadken

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Originally posted by: deadken
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TRUST ME... You won't be sorry.

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Please do post back and tell us what you think about it!

I too was skeptical about it and wondered how good it could possibly be from a company I never heard of and for a price that seemed to low to be of any quality. As you already know, I love this mouse and it has been FLAWLESS for about a year now.

The only things I didn't like about this mouse was how the thumbrest was grooved. I felt that it should have been more 'rough' rather then having such fine ribs that it feels almost flat. That went away after a few days, just grabbing it now as I write, I can still remember how I didn't like it, but it really was a minor issue. The only other issue was that I had to re-learn which thumb button was 'back' and which was 'forward' when browsing webpages. It seems that they are set up backwards compared to the way I remember them. In games the are fine, just when browsing the web they seem reversed.

Again, those are trivial items. If for some reason you don't like the mouse, PM me. I can always use another one for my sons PC.
 

Skott

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Late to the conversation but I'll put in my experiences. Built a new PC (in sig). Last mouse I used was the MX1000. Loved it. Got two of them in fact. I'd get it again but its extremely hard to find now. Cant seem to find them anywhere except ebay now. Logitech no longer makes the original version.

Anyway I bought the Revolution. It has a little usb transmitter that plugs into your usb port. Now my case doesnt have a top or front usb port so I had to plug into the back usb port. This is a problem because apparently the little usb device needs a clear LoS to the mouse itself to work correctly. I was having lock up problems with the mouse during gaming. I updated to the new 4.0 software from the start so I knew I had the latest drivers and everything. I discovered that if I rotated my case's butt towards the mouse the lock-ups stopped during gaming. After a while though even this didnt help. Lag became an issue in various games. I've read that others have had this issue too. Its not as bad as the lock-ups but it is annoying at times.

Right now I'm seriously considering on getting a different mouse. When the Revolution works its a great mouse but the lag is a constant problem. Funny how its only lagging in games. Never experience it when web surfing or any other pc activity. I'd love to have a MX1000 again. My daughter has my old one and wife has the second one and neither want to give it up so I'll either need to try and snag one off of ebay or get a different mouse. I've considered the G5 since Logitech came out with a updated version recently. They have the new G9 but it hasnt hit the stores yet but seen a couple reviews saying its good. I might wait for it to hit stores. It shouldnt be long. I see NE already has it listed but not in stock. Its not wireless though.

I cant reccomend the MX Revolution at this point. I'd like to but based on my experiences I just cant do it in good concious. Some people have problems with it and some dont from what I been readings. It seems to be about 50-50.
 

karioskasra

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My A4Tech X750BF came in today. After using it for around 8-12 hours, here are my impressions. Since my only other basis for comparison is the VX Revolution sitting on my desk, I cannot compare this mouse to some other high-end wired version (such as the MX500 or any Razer mouse).

Aesthetics: Plain and ugly. The red button and the lighted mouse wheel feel tacky. You most likely won't care. I certainly don't.

Build Quality: The components feel cheap but it doesn't feel cheaply put together. It's actually quite sturdy. I don't really mind this, as for the price I don't mind buying one every six months.

Comfort: It feels nowhere near as comfortable as the VX Revolution. By no means is it uncomfortable, but the design is standard and definitely doesn't feel heavy or contoured enough.

Compatibility: Plugged in and ran perfectly fine on Vista x64, no drivers needed. Which is great since no drivers were included (Vista not supported). I didn't bother checking their homepage -- there's a chance they might have Vista drivers there. As far as I'm concerned, all the buttons work without having to install extra drivers (which was NOT in the VX Revolution's case).

Performance: Great. No stuttering whatsoever, which was a serious problem on my cordless mice. Smooth movements up to 2500dpi.

Features:

The triple click button is nice but has been largely unused for me as I don't play Counterstrike. You can't exactly use it to double click either as it will open the file then highlight the folder, putting the file you've just opened in the background.

As for the software-free on the fly sensitivity button, I feel it would have been better as a slider or a switch. The way it works is there are six settings for every click ranging from lowest dpi (slowest mouse movement) to highest dpi (fastest mouse movement) and every click will cycle you through them till you start at the beginning again. This means a lot of clicks. This is not applicable in intense sniping or combat situations, and I suppose it MIGHT be faster to click six times every time you zoom instead of redoing it in your game settings, but it's a real pain in the ass. I see it being useful if you have a ton of time in a set sniping spot picking out targets. I personally don't use it.

Overall I like it and it's definitely the best mouse for its price I've found anywhere. I've found that the biggest negative against it is the comfort. Now if they could put the whole thing inside the VX Revolution's shell it'd be perfect.
 

GEOrifle

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I just got mine Logitech G5 laser mouse and what to say: do you ever hold a brick?
Large and massive, uncomfortable, surface feels like a SanderPaper.
Connected to my LinksKey PS2 KVM Switch by USB adapter and....it filed, doesn't works.
I'm using 2 PC's and 1 monitor+Keyboard+Mice, one PC for office workis and second for gaming.
Sending G5 back to NewEgg.
 

potato28

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DeathAdder, G5, or Habu are the best choices on the market right now. When the G9 and the new Razer mouse come out... well I'll wait to make a decision.
 

konakona

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Originally posted by: karioskasra
My A4Tech X750BF came in today. After using it for around 8-12 hours, here are my impressions. Since my only other basis for comparison is the VX Revolution sitting on my desk, I cannot compare this mouse to some other high-end wired version (such as the MX500 or any Razer mouse).

Aesthetics: Plain and ugly. The red button and the lighted mouse wheel feel tacky. You most likely won't care. I certainly don't.

Build Quality: The components feel cheap but it doesn't feel cheaply put together. It's actually quite sturdy. I don't really mind this, as for the price I don't mind buying one every six months.

Comfort: It feels nowhere near as comfortable as the VX Revolution. By no means is it uncomfortable, but the design is standard and definitely doesn't feel heavy or contoured enough.

Compatibility: Plugged in and ran perfectly fine on Vista x64, no drivers needed. Which is great since no drivers were included (Vista not supported). I didn't bother checking their homepage -- there's a chance they might have Vista drivers there. As far as I'm concerned, all the buttons work without having to install extra drivers (which was NOT in the VX Revolution's case).

Performance: Great. No stuttering whatsoever, which was a serious problem on my cordless mice. Smooth movements up to 2500dpi.

Features:

The triple click button is nice but has been largely unused for me as I don't play Counterstrike. You can't exactly use it to double click either as it will open the file then highlight the folder, putting the file you've just opened in the background.

As for the software-free on the fly sensitivity button, I feel it would have been better as a slider or a switch. The way it works is there are six settings for every click ranging from lowest dpi (slowest mouse movement) to highest dpi (fastest mouse movement) and every click will cycle you through them till you start at the beginning again. This means a lot of clicks. This is not applicable in intense sniping or combat situations, and I suppose it MIGHT be faster to click six times every time you zoom instead of redoing it in your game settings, but it's a real pain in the ass. I see it being useful if you have a ton of time in a set sniping spot picking out targets. I personally don't use it.

Overall I like it and it's definitely the best mouse for its price I've found anywhere. I've found that the biggest negative against it is the comfort. Now if they could put the whole thing inside the VX Revolution's shell it'd be perfect.

Well, good then.. I hate mice with contour or touch the bottom of your palm. Could you comment on its size? For me something of a mx300's size would be perfect, though lately I have been using a MS compact optical, which is also to my liking.