Time for a new gaming mouse: MX 518 or the G5?

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Homer Simpson

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ive had my mx518 for years now. ive yet to find a better mouse. i own a g5 (1st gen) that i took to the office and use at work. i hate the lack of the 2nd thumb button. i also find clicking the wheel to be quite sucky. doesnt have good feedback and sometimes if im in a hurry i tilt it instead of click. i cant imaging trying to game with it. ive contemplated a 2nd gen g5 (adds the second thumb button) but the tilt wheel has kept me from switching. i also find the braided cord quite stiff and rigid. while stiff and rigid is good for some things in life, my mouse cord is not one of them ;)
 

ibex333

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Don't bother with the MX518. It's works well, but it's a horrible mouse overall. The black logitech logo on top is covered with cheap paint which comes off after some time of use and makes the mouse look ugly. The beautiful finish attracts dirt and grime, and after a few months the mouse looks disgusting no matter how much you clean it. On top of that, y mouse feet are now coming off too... and that only after about two years of use.

This mouse might be a delicate work of art, but a rough and tough workhorse for a gamer with sweaty palms it is not!
 

CoinOperatedBoy

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I have two G5s, one rev1 and one rev2. The mouse wheel on the rev1 just died and I dislike the lack of a second side button. The blue cracked pattern on the rev2 looks stupid. And I hate the groove placement on the right side where the pinky is supposed to rest on these mice. I find the grip very uncomfortable for extended periods; I've heard other people say it's the most comfortable mouse they've ever used. Try it out first.

That said, the tracking is superb and the on-the-fly DPI adjustments are nice for gaming.
 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: n7
G5.

It doesn't crap out like every single MX518 i've owned has.

Something in the cord has broken on like 6 MX518s i have; the braided cord seems to be more durable on my G5.

That said, the middle click on the G5 is far inferior to the MX518; i agree.

lol n7 you beat my record. I thought I was the only one with this MX518 problem. I was on my forth Logitech MX518 when they finally said they would ship me the G5 instead for replacement! Thankfully I didn't need to send in any of the MX518 broken mouse. Threw most of them away.

When your MX518 broke what would it start to do ?
 

Capt Caveman

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I picked-up a G9 recently for $20 AR. Still haven't opened it yet as I'm still happy with my G7.

The G7 replaced a MX518 which is lying around somewhere.
 

ronach

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I've had my MX518 for about 4 years now..not a hiccup..ya..it gets dirty [ I have soap ] the logo is wearing off [ so what..I don't buy a mouse for a logo to look at..I buy a mouse to give me lots of gaming service..most of my other mice never lasted long enough to have the logo wear off ]. If this mouse failed today..I could care less..why ? At the 2 1/2 year point of owning my MX518, Newegg had a sale on new MX518's..I picked up a spare..yep..keep on gaming I will. I have zero/nadda experience with the G series of mice..they may be excellent as well. there you have it.
 

bunnyfubbles

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I've really been turned off to Logitech products as of late, far too much gimmick for my taste. Weight system? Spare me, the mice like the G5 and G500 are already lardasses of the mousing world before adding any extra weights, weighing in at 150g and 165g respectively, before any extra. Compare that to the IME3.0 @ 104g...

The G9 was a step in the right direction in terms of getting away from ballooning size and weight, but not only does it have the same gimmick weight system, it has interchangeable grips, seriously...even if you change the grip from the default, you're never going to do it again, its a total waste of money. However the G9 can be found as low as $50 and thus would actually be an option I would consider.

If you're stubborn and/or actually somehow limited to only the two choices you laid out (MX518 vs G5) I would definitely choose the MX518. Not only should it be less expensive, its sensor has a better track record when it comes to performance. Sure, the G5 might be more fine tuned in that it has more stops in the settings you can choose, but that means little when it craps out under high speeds (I'm a relatively high sensitivity user, and I even I can get first generation laser sensors like that in the G5 to wonk out on me) with skipping and unwanted acceleration effects. Sure, such occurrences are rare for me, but if I'm paying $50 for a mouse, I don't ever want to see it happen.

That being said, here is a list of options I would consider before the G5 and/or MX518:

Habu ~$32 - same sensor performance as the G5, but I feel is a better option because its cheaper and has onboard memory for storing profiles and driverless operation. I might even choose this over the MX518, considering the cost and convenience, but its a close call. Alternatively, Microsoft's Sidewinder X5 can be found for the same price (OEM most likely) with roughly the same specs and features, although I don't believe it has the onboard memory like the Habu, and thus would make it an inferior option outside of a potentially better match in ergonomics (which I would find unlikely).

G9 ~$50 - improved laser sensor won't crap out as easily, should be fine for all but the most insanely low sensitivity users. Better than the MX518 and G5 with features, includes onboard memory like the Habu.

DeathAdder ~$45 - similar to the MX518 but better in that it has: slightly better performing sensor, firmware can retain DPI and polling rate settings without drivers, and can be flashed to a firmware that has no tracking prediction (ie line smoothing, something you're stuck with even with the MX518), I'd choose this over most other mice I would recommend here.

IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 ~$30 - I didn't list a specific website, but these can be found for $30 easily from just about anywhere, perhaps a bit more for a retail package, or even less if OEM. Roughly the same shape as the Habu or DeathAdder, it has a tried and true optical sensor that makes it better when it comes to more aggressive tracking performance, so its lack of extra features that Habu has can be made up for if your primary concern is lower sensitivity tracking performance (mostly first person shooters). I'd take this over the G5 for sure, but probably go for the MX518 for its greater versatility, although for someone who was playing with mice like the MX Rev and MX1000 which don't have DPI buttons, the IME3.0 might be a perfect fit.


There are other options, but I tried to stay within the righthanded/palm form/grip and upper price range (no more than $50) you laid down with your original choices
 

Chronoshock

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One thing that I haven't seen mentioned in any review is that the grippy surface on the g5 actually soaks up sweat (or at least makes it harder to clean off) compared to the slick plastic surface of my previous MX510. Hopefully the G500 won't have another grippy coating, it's hard to tell in the photos
 

n7

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Originally posted by: pcslookout
When your MX518 broke what would it start to do ?

They disconnect whenever the mouse is moved quickly, as something inside disconnects basically.

You hear the Windows USB chimes go, as basically it'd disconnect & re-connect as the cord got wiggled around.

Absolutely infuriating when trying to play UT2k4, which is how i'm guessing i managed to wreck them all (used to play tons).

I actually got them to send me three at once to replace three defective ones, & all three were broken within less than a year each.

I pretty much went thru one every few months, to the point where i got spares because i knew it was only a matter of time before the next one crapped out.

They still technically somewhat function for OS use, but during games, they disconnect like mad, making them useless.
 

mwmorph

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I don't know why everyone loves the Deathaddler so much. I have a Intellimouse Wireless, a G5 and a Deathaddler. I got a G5 to replace my intellimouse and I like that it weighs a lot. It feels more solid and precise. I actually loaded it with all the heaviest cartridges. My deathaddler sit alone in a desk drawer, I really don't like the shape in my hands and I don't like the light weight.
 

nitromullet

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I have both, and I like them both overall.

The MX518 is now my work mouse, and I still use it everyday. I replaced it a while back with a gen 1 G5 (copper/silver finish) mouse for gaming, and the finish started to blister and peel off of the gen 1. Logitech replaced it for me for free with a gen 2 (blue crackle finish) and so far it has held up nicely. I use the side scroll buttons for some things. They are great to bind to keys in games where you might want access to something quickly or often - like popping trinkets in WoW PVP or switching nanosuit modes in Crysis... you get the idea.

I'm not sure why everyone is so down on the weight system. It's not like it's a hassle or anything, and I think it's a nice touch. Most mice (unweighted G5 included) feel too light to me, so I add a little weight to give the mouse some bulk.

I just like the shape and feel of these mice, but it's really all a matter of personal preference.
 

j0j081

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Originally posted by: mwmorph
I don't know why everyone loves the Deathaddler so much. I have a Intellimouse Wireless, a G5 and a Deathaddler. I got a G5 to replace my intellimouse and I like that it weighs a lot. It feels more solid and precise. I actually loaded it with all the heaviest cartridges. My deathaddler sit alone in a desk drawer, I really don't like the shape in my hands and I don't like the light weight.

I agree the Deathadder feels light compared to some mice but I prefer that. The shape fits my hand perfectly, I think it is best for small to medium sized hands though.
 

slugg

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Chiming in here... I bought my girlfriend a G5 for Christmas. She loves it, and whenever I get to use it, I get jealous.
 

Zenoth

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I got the MX518 and it's been approximately four years I think? I'm not sure, but it's been a long time, it still works exactly the same as before, superb quality product, but at this point the Logitech logo as worn off almost entirely, which is not a big deal at all, I just don't care anyway, but I just wanted to mention it. It also does get dirty after some time of use, it needs to be cleaned regularly or there's some sort of God knows what of hand residues build up on the otherwise good looking finish. If it dies on me tomorrow I'll still buy another one for another good four or five years of excellent service.

And I agree about an earlier comment concerning small hands, the MX518 is certainly not small hands-friendly, I'm lucky enough to have bigger hands than "usual" I'd guess, since I have no issues with it, but I had read about people with small hands with issues with this mouse before, issues as in physical pain after some time of use due to improper positions of the palm and/or fingers or whatever it was, just like certain keyboards, my very basic Logitech keyboard (Internet access keyboard, it's about six years old), at the back of it there's a warning message pointing at the possibility that certain keyboard sizes and designs can cause physical pain to some people.
 

bloodugly

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My MX518 is about 4 years old and still works perfect, and its been thrown in boxes for many moves in that amount of time, not to mention my cat loves to flop on it....and everything else I wish she didn't :) I guess the weight thing is "neat" on the G5, but I don't use any of them. I'm the type that just uses my fingertips and decently high sensitivity. Honestly, I'd say get whichever one looks better to you, because they both feel and perform about the same, I use the G5 at work and the 518 at home everyday. I really don't notice any difference unless I consciously think about it.
 

pcslookout

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Mar 18, 2007
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Originally posted by: n7
Originally posted by: pcslookout
When your MX518 broke what would it start to do ?

They disconnect whenever the mouse is moved quickly, as something inside disconnects basically.

You hear the Windows USB chimes go, as basically it'd disconnect & re-connect as the cord got wiggled around.

Absolutely infuriating when trying to play UT2k4, which is how i'm guessing i managed to wreck them all (used to play tons).

I actually got them to send me three at once to replace three defective ones, & all three were broken within less than a year each.

I pretty much went thru one every few months, to the point where i got spares because i knew it was only a matter of time before the next one crapped out.

They still technically somewhat function for OS use, but during games, they disconnect like mad, making them useless.


lol that is the same thing that happen with mine. Surprised you got them to send you three replacements for three that all went out. At least it was free though. I did the same thing with knowing my replacement Logitech MX518 would go out in a few months so got a free spare. Sure enough 2 to 3 months later I needed a replacement and lucky had it.

I thought it was just me or I was going crazy at first. Good to know I wasn't the only one with this problem. Actually as of right now I am using the last spare Logitech MX518 and it started to go out when first using it. I think I fixed it though by stuffing the back of the wire back in. Should help for a little while. Doubt for to long. Glad I have my spare G5 handy. All my other MX518 were not really fixable and now in the garbage. Sucks going through so many mouse in a few month. At least it was free though. It was so annoying. Do you ever remember having such a horrible mouse problem ? I still can't believe the MX518 would break on me after just a few months. Well actually my very first MX518 lasted the longest at about 6 to 8 months all the replacements barely 2 to 3 months if that.


 

legcramp

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my brother had 2-3 mx518 die on him.... same problem as described above. So I gave him mine and bought a MS intelli explorer 3.0.
 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: RIFLEMAN007
my brother had 2-3 mx518 die on him.... same problem as described above. So I gave him mine and bought a MS intelli explorer 3.0.

Interesting I wonder why the Logitech MX518 has this problem and is it only for heavy gamers? Thinking the problem is what n7 is as well with the cord coming out from the back of the mouse. Then it will response one second but then the next not. That is why I was able to fix my current semi working one by pushing the cord back in on the back of the mouse.
 

flexy

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two MX518 here, both running and running w/o any problems. Best mice EVER.
 

Sunner

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Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
I've owned both... it's a toss up. If you have small hands, they're both too big, however.

And if you have reasonably big hands, they'll both be too small.
That said, I prefer the G5, pretty similar, but the G5 is slightly smoother.
 

DucatiMonster696

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I got the MX518 and I've been using it for years now. By far the best freaking mouse ever for gaming that I've used.