TIL: Building a clock in Texas is illegal

[steppinthrax]

I'm not a "Proud Texan" by any means, I hate the weather here and am not into sports at all...but shit dude what did the state ever do to you?

States like TX, KY and other "ass-backwards" states make the United States look like a bunch of fools. At least in the international sense. I don't agree with Trump on everything, but I agree with the fact that no one respects us and laughs at us.

I"m sure the Chinese were probably laughing so hard that they almost died. Then they probably used it as an example as to why we suck and math!!!

 

[Fenixgoon]

I agree of course.

Though all it takes for there to be a threat is for someone to feel threatened. That's today's reality that people need to live within and where the student failed.

This is what I've been saying. The knee-jerk reaction by everyone all over social media may be exactly what they wanted and counted on. it's not far fetched and it's surprisingly easy to do. It would explain a lot, like why his answers weren't satisfying the officers at first (coached by parents) or why he would bust up a clock and put it in a busted case and tie it closed with wire and call it an "invention."

If it's a clock and you made it out of a clock, what, exactly, did you "invent?"

The timing perfectly fits this being a planned reaction to some extra precautions the school may have taken a few days earlier on the anniversary of 9-11.

you really think this is a social media stunt?

"hey, let's potentially ruin our kid's life just so he might make a big splash". that's so far on the high risk/high reward scale that i can't imagine any parent would possibly consider it a good idea.

 

[z1ggy]

you really think this is a social media stunt?

"hey, let's potentially ruin our kid's life just so he might make a big splash". that's so far on the high risk/high reward scale that i can't imagine any parent would possibly consider it a good idea.

Hey, The Zuck invited him over to FB "anytime" so if this kid doesn't end up a felon and does really well in school, I bet he has a job waiting for him in about.. 10 years.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I am always bothered by the ostensibly intelligent folk who are so willing to give up freedoms for security. I want to ask them what their remaining freedom is worth if they're unwilling to risk anything for for it?

 

[Ns1]

you really think this is a social media stunt?

"hey, let's potentially ruin our kid's life just so he might make a big splash". that's so far on the high risk/high reward scale that i can't imagine any parent would possibly consider it a good idea.

Srsly this is what we've come to?

 

[cronos]

After watching him on the news recently, it's not too much of a stretch that this type of outcome was something he probably joked about prior to this whole event unfolding. It's not too far out of reality to think that he consciously or subconsciouly made this clock to resemble a bomb in a half-joking sort of way never thinking anyone would consider it a real bomb.

I disagree completely with this statement. If at any point that day he even mentioned even in passing or joking with a friend about a bomb or even utter the word 'bomb' at all that day, I guarantee you that he would not have been released and in fact would have been legitimately charged with a 'hoax bomb' attempt. In fact, that is the very definition of a 'hoax bomb' charge and he would probably be easily convicted. The cops don't play around with stuff like this. The fact that he was immediately released and not charged is a good enough proof that he mentioned nothing of the sort.

 

[steppinthrax]

Srsly this is what we've come to?

He's a minor. 14. Even if they arrest him his record as a juvenile is sealed. It won't affect anything.

Sadly if you want to try some shit. Do it as a minor.

 

[mrjminer]

It looks like his intention was to make it look like a bomb. Even if it wasn't, there's no way that "hey, this looks sort of like a bomb" didn't go through his or his parent's minds.

Money/attention grab. Any other excuse the apologists are making is bullshit. They should have questioned the kid. Frankly, I think they should have suspended him -- and I bet they would if they wouldn't get sued. Guessing the parent's aren't too happy about that one, since it blows money grab plan A out of the picture.

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

You, use, too, many, commas, .

Sorry.
I do get carried away with commas, sometimes.

I guess that at some in the future, our stuff will be written/re-written by smart AI computers/robots, so it will be less important then.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Sorry.
I do get carried away with comma, sometimes.

I guess that at some in the future, our stuff will be written/re-written by smart AI computers/robots, so it will be less important then.

In your future, all statements will be issued by the political safety committee and anything you say or do will be examined for 'correct ' thinking by the civic union for public safety. Your block captain will stop by to ensure compliance. Safety first, citizen!

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

It looks like his intention was to make it look like a bomb. Even if it wasn't, there's no way that "hey, this looks sort of like a bomb" didn't go through his or his parent's minds.

Money/attention grab. Any other excuse the apologists are making is bullshit. They should have questioned the kid. Frankly, I think they should have suspended him -- and I bet they would if they wouldn't get sued. Guessing the parent's aren't too happy about that one, since it blows money grab plan A out of the picture.

He was already warned by the first teacher (engineering), NOT to show it to others at the School. Hinting that, that teacher either knew it looked like a bomb or even mentioned/hinted at it ?

Yet the boy ignores this, and continues to mess with it, when he should have been concentrating on his lessons, and NOT disturbing other hard working pupils.

It was his further messing around with it (against the first teachers advice), which caused it to make (loud ?), noises attracting the English teachers attention, and causing this incident.

tl;dr
He was being at least a bit bad, if not worse.

Also when I carefully watched his video(s). I get the distinct impression, that he did indeed, realize it atr least partly if notr fully, looked like a bomb. Because he said that he used the external cable to make it look less (can't remember the exact word, but it was smething like) dangerous? or suspicous? or something?.
tl;dr
Was his "invention", a movie prop of some sort ?

Or to put it another way. Who exactly wants a clock built into a brief case ?

But I could be going too far here. There is little evidence at the moment, to show he significantly intended to create a "hoax bomb" or "bomb", incident.

 

[Ns1]

Yet the boy ignores this, and continues to mess with it, when he should have been concentrating on his lessons, and NOT disturbing other hard working pupils.
----
This is not what happened.

 

[steppinthrax]

Well let's put it this way. If this is true then who's the biggest fools to fall for it.

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

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[Sonikku]

He was already warned by the first teacher (engineering), NOT to show it to others at the School. Hinting that, that teacher either knew it looked like a bomb or even mentioned/hinted at it ?

Yet the boy ignores this, and continues to mess with it, when he should have been concentrating on his lessons, and NOT disturbing other hard working pupils.

It was his further messing around with it (against the first teachers advice), which caused it to make (loud ?), noises attracting the English teachers attention, and causing this incident.

tl;dr
He was being at least a bit bad, if not worse.

Also when I carefully watched his video(s). I get the distinct impression, that he did indeed, realize it atr least partly if notr fully, looked like a bomb. Because he said that he used the external cable to make it look less (can't remember the exact word, but it was smething like) dangerous? or suspicous? or something?.
tl;dr
Was his "invention", a movie prop of some sort ?

Or to put it another way. Who exactly wants a clock built into a brief case ?

But I could be going too far here. There is little evidence at the moment, to show he significantly intended to create a "hoax bomb" or "bomb", incident.

Well if he did what you described he wouldn't be having dinner with the President.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Or to put it another way. Who exactly wants a clock built into a brief case ?

Maybe there's a reason he was taking it to school and not the clock department at Macy's. What kid is concerning himself with marketability when he tries out a random engineering project on a whim?

 

[Ruptga]

It looks like his intention was to make it look like a bomb. Even if it wasn't, there's no way that "hey, this looks sort of like a bomb" didn't go through his or his parent's minds.

Money/attention grab. Any other excuse the apologists are making is bullshit. They should have questioned the kid. Frankly, I think they should have suspended him -- and I bet they would if they wouldn't get sued. Guessing the parent's aren't too happy about that one, since it blows money grab plan A out of the picture.

No doubt, that is the truest truth. I can tell because I feel it's true, otherwise how would I have the certainty to accuse someone who I know basically nothing about of knowing their thoughts and motives? Either that or this is all ad hoc victim blaming made up by a handful of people too stupid to rely on anything but instinct.

Well, made up by them and the people trolling the shit out of this thread because it's too easy to pass up. You know who you are.

 

[DrPizza]

He's not dubbed as a "criminal." He was told that it resembles a hoax bomb (it absolutely does). They told him the implications and decided not to charge him with anything.

Do you know why it doesn't look like a hoax bomb? BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THAT LOOKS LIKE EXPLOSIVE MATERIAL! My God, how foolish are people to think something looks like a bomb because it has circuit boards and LEDs and wires. If he had a blob of play-doh inside, I would agree with you. If he had some paper towel tubes in there, wrapped in red paper to look like sticks of dynamite, I'd agree with you. But bombs need more than just a timer.

So, I'll agree with you that it looked like a... TIMER. You know what else looks like a timer? A timer. A stop watch. A clock. You know what timers, stop watches, clocks have that bombs don't have? Blowy-up stuff. You know what hoax bombs have that timers, stop watches, and clocks don't have? Pretend blowy-up stuff.

 

[Exterous]

You do know that "Suspended until Thurday" means "taken out of school for questioning and sent back the very next day," don't you? Who's reading abilities are in question here?

Sent home early due to questioning, basically.

And you do know that a short time duration does not mean he was not suspended dont you? If he wanted to argue duration he should have done so. Come on this is simple stuff here

 

[88keys]

I wish the south would secede.

 

[Ns1]

Do you know why it doesn't look like a hoax bomb? BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THAT LOOKS LIKE EXPLOSIVE MATERIAL! My God, how foolish are people to think something looks like a bomb because it has circuit boards and LEDs and wires. If he had a blob of play-doh inside, I would agree with you. If he had some paper towel tubes in there, wrapped in red paper to look like sticks of dynamite, I'd agree with you. But bombs need more than just a timer.

So, I'll agree with you that it looked like a... TIMER. You know what else looks like a timer? A timer. A stop watch. A clock. You know what timers, stop watches, clocks have that bombs don't have? Blowy-up stuff. You know what hoax bombs have that timers, stop watches, and clocks don't have? Pretend blowy-up stuff.

Mind = blown

 

[steppinthrax]

I wish the south would secede.

I wish someone would split the whole southern half of the United States and let it fall into the ocean....

 

[steppinthrax]

Mind = blown

Aside from this even.

But guess what. Imagine if a bomb is made that dosen't have any of those tale tell signs. No tubes, play doh etc.... Just a board and wires and the bomb material is part of the electronics.

Now that would be crazy.

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

Yet the boy ignores this, and continues to mess with it, when he should have been concentrating on his lessons, and NOT disturbing other hard working pupils.
----
This is not what happened.

I think it was. But I was probably exaggerating, the seriousness of the intentions. So somewhat or fully take it back.

Well if he did what you described he wouldn't be having dinner with the President.

Maybe there's a reason he was taking it to school and not the clock department at Macy's. What kid is concerning himself with marketability when he tries out a random engineering project on a whim?

I've changed my mind again. Partly from reading what people are saying in this thread.

If he had seriously intended to make a (hoax) bomb device, he could have easily made something much more realistic. Then left it somewhere, so that it would cause terrible disruption.

Because it was sealed within his own bag (at the time of discovery), and it suddenly made a beep noise, which could have easily been a mistake or oversight on his part.

It looks likely that he did NOT intend to cause any (hoax) bomb incidents.

tl;dr
Probably an innocent mistake, from all parties involved. (Him/Teachers/Police).

 

[Theb]

This is what I've been saying. The knee-jerk reaction by everyone all over social media may be exactly what they wanted and counted on. it's not far fetched and it's surprisingly easy to do. It would explain a lot, like why his answers weren't satisfying the officers at first (coached by parents) or why he would bust up a clock and put it in a busted case and tie it closed with wire and call it an "invention."

If it's a clock and you made it out of a clock, what, exactly, did you "invent?"

The timing perfectly fits this being a planned reaction to some extra precautions the school may have taken a few days earlier on the anniversary of 9-11.

Irving Police spokesman Officer James McLellan told the station, "We attempted to question the juvenile about what it was and he would simply only tell us that it was a clock."

Yes that's some intense verbal judo. I'm certain the parents coached him. There's no way the kid came up with saying the clock was a clock all on his own.