THREAD 6 - Update on Onvia's Herc. GeForce2-GTS 64Meg ($290) - THREAD 6

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Crazybubba

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Finally got a tracking number. Will be here Friday. I hope its worth the long wait.

Anyone get their memory overclocked over 400 Mhz?

Rainmnx
 

Killer Ape

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God, I somehow got lost back at thread 4...

Well,I got a "Order Shipped" confirmation on 6/30 from Onvia, but as of today, 7/5, I don't have a tracking number (I ordered on 6/8 BTW). PointClick also confirmed that my rebate check from them is in the mail.

What's the typical lag time been between "Order Shipped" and a tracking number showing up?

 

Nutzo

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Had my memory overclocked to 402 & was working fine, but I had to back it off to 398 when the room temp got to hot at 85 degrees. Core still runs fine at 230 Mhz.

Running Quake III @ 1024x768 @ 101 FPS with everything at Max. 32 bit color, 32 bit textures, Sound on High, etc.



 

Viper22

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Got my Card today and it is installed. Mine was one with the Older BIOS on it so i installed PowerStrip and clocked it back down for now. For some reason i cant get Diablo II to work anymore though.
 

Ubetcha

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same here. 220 x 366, but it works fine with the 5.30 drivers so it's staying there...
 

Killer Ape

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Just got mine at work. Box says "200/333", but I haven't seen what the BIOS says yet. Can't wait to get home and see what this puppy will do :).
 

Eric_D

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Hey guys, what drivers do you recomend i use and where can i get them. And how can i tell what Bios my card has? thanks
 

Killer Ape

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Eric_D: Download Powerstrip and it will tell you what BIOS your card has. It also has overclocking sliders. You can also (quickly) see the BIOS during POST. I'd recommend either the 5.22 or 5.30 nVidia Reference Drivers. I think 5.22 is the official release, but you can find Beta 5.30 if you snoop around.

Okay, here's the deal with my card (this was all done in 1 hour during lunch, so it's not complete yet):

Test Bed: C533A @ 825/BX6r2/128MB Corsair CAS2 PC100 SDRAM
Drivers: 5.30 w/ Powerstrip for OC
Stock Speed: 220/366 (box says "200/333")

Benchmarks (so far):

3DMark 2000
220/366: 5200
220/400: 5600

Q3A - Normal/640/480/16 Bit Color
220/366: 97 FPS
220/400: Not Tested (yet)

Q3A - Custom/1024 x 768/32 Bit Color and Textures/All details and effects "High" or "On"
220/366: 77 FPS
220/400: Not Tested (yet)

Q3A - Custom/1024 x 768/32 Bit Color and Textures/All details/effects "High" or "On" - FSAA Enabled
220/366: 37 FPS (looks AMAZING, but is a little choppy)
220/400: Not Tested (yet)

Max Overclock
230/410 (didn't have time to benchmark at this speed)
Beyond this artifacts start to appear. I'm not really confident of this speed on a long term basis. Seems like the 220/400 is more realistic. I haven't experimented with setting the core down to 200 and upping the memory further.

Seems like I should have been able to break 100 FPS in Q3A normal, and I was expecting something like 6000 3DMarks. Any suggestions/tweaks?
 

RichieZ

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Most likely your celeron is holding you back. At 240/390 on a Creative Annihilator 2 (on 30 day "loan") I got about 6800 3dmarks on a 550E@733. I'm sure my higher AGP bus helped but it shouldn't do that much, also my ram is at Cas 2 and that adds a few extra 3d marks.
 

Killer Ape

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Nutzo: What's the rest of your system specs and what exactly are your Q3A settings? I can't even get close to 101FPS in Q3A at those settings (see my previous post). Thanks.
 

Killer Ape

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Richie: You're probably right. I can run the C533A at 897/112, but I stepped it back for the summer. I'll try that later. My RAM is CAS2. I wonder if these puppies are 100MHz AGP tolerant...:)
 

DaveNCheez

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I dunno about the Celeeron being the draw back. It is slower than the P3, but still and 800mhz celeron performs much like a 600mhz coppermine... so a it shouldn't be greatly behind. (I have a Celeron as well btw)
 

Killer Ape

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I got my hands on a P!!!700 the other day and I found it benchmarked almost identically to my C533A @ 825 in both Q3A and 3DMark 2000 in my rig with my (now) old TNT2U 175/183.

Anand used a 750E for the review, so I was expecting my set-up to perform a little slower, but not quite this much.
 

DaveNCheez

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well on a TNT2U the vid card is the bottle neck, not the processor. So it should perform the same. But still, I don't think a Celeron at 800+ should be 1000 3dmarks behind at PIII

I dunno

Dave
 

Nutzo

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My Rig.....

Athlon 700 @ 798 Mhz
Abit KA7 Motherboard
FSB = 114 (AGP@ 76, PCI @ 38)
128 MB PC100 Cas2 Memory
Hercules 3D Prophet II GTS 64MB @ 230/398

Quake III is at 1024x768 32 bit, sound is set to high, and everything is max (HQ settings.) Backed the texture quality off one notch & Demo001 gives me 101 FPS.

A few benchmarks
Quake III using the defaults & low sound quality.
Athlon @800, GTS @ 230/402

Fastest 16 bit 640x480 136
HQ 32 bit 1024x768 103
HQ 32 bit 1600x1200 43


Quake 2
640x480 16 bit 150 FPS
1024x768 16 bit 100 FPS

 

DaveNCheez

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anyone know where I can get benchmarks comparing a GF2 on a CeleronII and P3? lookiing for Celly2 speeeds between 800-900ish as mine is 875

Thanks,
Dave
 

Crazybubba

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Finally got my herc! woohoo!

I'm running it at 220 Mhz core /400 Mhz memory. Works great.

2D has problems on my Radius L-1. Double/Ghost images. I'm going to test it on a Sony 420GS.

Benchmarks will be coming shortly.

Rainmanx
 

Lore

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CrazyBubba:

At what res are you getting those ghosts? Let me know how it looks on the Sony.
 

DaveNCheez

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Just got my card, appears to work pretty well except theres something messed up....

Im only getting 2980 3dmarks and its is reunning weird...
I run Win2K have a CeleronII@875...

any suggestions.....

and don't say its from the Celly2 or win2k, because they wouldn't cut speed in 1/2

Dave
 

RichieZ

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Got mine today, at 200/400 I yield 6537 3d marks (on CLA 2 I got 6800 at 794, i'll bench again later today)

P3 550E@733
Soyo 6VBA+IV
128MB PC133 Cas 2
Win ME

2D is decent at 1600x1200 on my IBM P200 (trinitron, kidna old but still good 20"). Definetly better than the Asus 6800 pure I was borrowing form a friend)
 

Lore

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Just tried the new GeForce II (Prophet 2 64mb) replacement that I got and it is still just as bad. Not only that, but the display quivers a tad and the ghosting is horrible.

I will try the new UltraSpec cable as soon as I receive it. If it still doesn't work this card goes back.

I get some weird corruptions here and there too, when I move my mouse around.
 

Crazybubba

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Update to my Prophet II:

I have reduced the ghosting a little by running it at 1280x960 but its still there.

My system is celeron II 850 Mhz with 196MB of memory running cas 2 on a msi 6163 bx board. FSB is 100 Mhz.

3DMark 2000 v1.1: 5162 @ 850 Mhz cpu / 5714 @ 896 Mhz cpu ***HIGHEST ON THERE DB FOR CELERON***
Quake3 high detail (maxed out) minus "marks on wall" and "shells"
1024x768: 96.1 FPS 32bit color

BTW, diablo 2 does not run very well in direct3d mode. It will lockup for 5 mins to load and unload. So, don't think its your setup, you can't fix it.

Rainmanx
 

DaveNCheez

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why is my 3dmark sooo low??????? also when it goes to run the 64mb rendering test..... it just shows the first frame then sits there until the next test?
What did I do wrong?

Dave