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Phuz

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Right on, brother.
I do the same thing you do, and I feel your pain. Don't you just LOVE instigating confrontation? I love aggravated customers. Especially now that I've just put my two weeks notice in.. I fire right back at them.
 

mattgyver

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So true! I worked as a CSR for BellSouth for awhile. . . This rant. . . So true! I love it!
Our catch-all was: "Have you tried another phone in that jack?" That solved 90% of problems.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: mattgyver1
So true! I worked as a CSR for BellSouth for awhile. . . This rant. . . So true! I love it!
Our catch-all was: "Have you tried another phone in that jack?" That solved 90% of problems.

I hope you are good at your job, because I had a billing error from Bellsouth that took two years to fix. I must have made 30+ phone calls and talked to several supervisors. I also sent a certified letter and that didn't work either. Finally I three wayed them with my Attorney and it was taken care of in 24 hours.
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Mill

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ThaGrandCow- I assume the technical department is different from the new sales department? I called a few days ago to get service when I move to my new house and couldn't understand a damn thing the lady was saying. I ended up going with direct TV because I never could get anyone that spoke English...
 

isekii

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Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow
Originally posted by: isekii
Damn I hate asshole Dish CSR's that constantly tell you to perform that Check Switch BS.

check switch is the "ctrl-alt-delete" of the sattelite world. It solves 99% of our problems.

When they constantly tell you to do it over and over. Especially when it's the receiver that's the problem.
Fuggin idiot CSR, Why would only one fuggin tv lose signal and the other one works great.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the receiver was bad.

Finally after like 30 min, they setup to have someone come out and replace the receiver. Now everything is good.

Holy crap... stupid CSR.
I run check switch 1 time in that scenario. If problem is not fixed I look at the results of the test and then swap recievers to determine if it's a location/LNBF problem or a reciever problem. reciever problem I'd send you a new reciever, quicker than getting a tech out there. location/LNBF problem I do 2 other troubleshooting steps to determine if it's a cable problem or a LNBF problem. I'm off the phone with you in 5 minutes with either a tech on the way or the replacement part on the way.

The tech came the next day ;) at 9:30 am.
I have to admit, that they're ability to get people out to my house is quicker than other companies.
 

mattgyver

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: mattgyver1
So true! I worked as a CSR for BellSouth for awhile. . . This rant. . . So true! I love it!
Our catch-all was: "Have you tried another phone in that jack?" That solved 90% of problems.

I hope you are good at your job, because I had a billing error from Bellsouth that took two years to fix. I must have made 30+ phone calls and talked to several supervisors. I also sent a certified letter and that didn't work either. Finally I three wayed them with my Attorney and it was taken care of in 24 hours.
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I was referring to "technical" problems. I no longer work for BellSouth; it was a stifling work environment. I quit in no small part because I felt the company's policies made it very difficult for me to provide quality service, as my first priority was to sell products. I was in the Small Business group, so if you were Residential, I didn't talk to you:D There have been major layoffs in the Residential department lately, and they have lost many knowledgeable people. I have had problems with them myself, so I feel your pain.
 

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Originally posted by: mattgyver1
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: mattgyver1
So true! I worked as a CSR for BellSouth for awhile. . . This rant. . . So true! I love it!
Our catch-all was: "Have you tried another phone in that jack?" That solved 90% of problems.

I hope you are good at your job, because I had a billing error from Bellsouth that took two years to fix. I must have made 30+ phone calls and talked to several supervisors. I also sent a certified letter and that didn't work either. Finally I three wayed them with my Attorney and it was taken care of in 24 hours.
rolleye.gif


I was referring to "technical" problems. I no longer work for BellSouth; it was a stifling work environment. I quit in no small part because I felt the company's policies made it very difficult for me to provide quality service, as my first priority was to sell products. I was in the Small Business group, so if you were Residential, I didn't talk to you:D There have been major layoffs in the Residential department lately, and they have lost many knowledgeable people. I have had problems with them myself, so I feel your pain.

They have laid off a lot of people. My Grandfather worked for Bellsouth for 35 years, my Aunt for 30 and my Mother for 5. My Aunt had to take an early retirement or they were going to lay her off.
 

mattgyver

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: mattgyver1
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: mattgyver1
So true! I worked as a CSR for BellSouth for awhile. . . This rant. . . So true! I love it!
Our catch-all was: "Have you tried another phone in that jack?" That solved 90% of problems.

I hope you are good at your job, because I had a billing error from Bellsouth that took two years to fix. I must have made 30+ phone calls and talked to several supervisors. I also sent a certified letter and that didn't work either. Finally I three wayed them with my Attorney and it was taken care of in 24 hours.
rolleye.gif


I was referring to "technical" problems. I no longer work for BellSouth; it was a stifling work environment. I quit in no small part because I felt the company's policies made it very difficult for me to provide quality service, as my first priority was to sell products. I was in the Small Business group, so if you were Residential, I didn't talk to you:D There have been major layoffs in the Residential department lately, and they have lost many knowledgeable people. I have had problems with them myself, so I feel your pain.

They have laid off a lot of people. My Grandfather worked for Bellsouth for 35 years, my Aunt for 30 and my Mother for 5. My Aunt had to take an early retirement or they were going to lay her off.


Yes, all the competition they've had since deregulation has really hurt them. The thing is, they don't even care about about residential customers, since Small Business is where they make most of thier money. If you have a complex problem, whether it be technical or billing, you really have to do some b!tching to get it solved if you're Residential. Sad but true:(
 

nsafreak

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Ahhhh I agree to everything you had to say in that rant of yours ThaGrandCow and I have some to add of my own. I too work at Dish Network although at a different call center, and I work in the cancellations department. Been at my current position for a few months now and I'm in the process of hopefully getting promoted.

For all of those folks that call in wanting some kind of freebie (free receiver, free service call, etc.) and have been customers for a total of ONE year on our BASIC package. Get real I'm BOUND to get one of these calls just about every single day. Somebody calls in and wants to cancel because he/she didn't purchase two (or more) receivers when they initially signed up. Now they want an additional receiver at no charge even though we have BARELY made any money of our initial investment to get them as a customer. So when we inform them that we can get them an additional receiver installed at a discounted rate they always tell us about how DirecTV can get them both installed for free. Well, DUH, they're trying to attract you as a new customer just like any business would. You more likely than not got your equipment for free from us as well and if we kept giving away free equipment we would go bankrupt in a HURRY. It's a totally different matter for customers that have been with us for a long period of time (4 years plus) and pay a significant amount of money. Those folks we're making money on and hope to continue making money on, so yes we will give them bigger discounts on stuff & occasionally do things for free.

For those folks that call in with PPV disputes (typically adult) and say they NEVER order those type of things on their receivers GET REAL. Listen, when the accounting system shows that it was ordered via the remote we KNOW it was ordered from that receiver. Every time a receiver calls in with a PPV download it transmits the smart card, receiver CA ID, and a slew of other information that is unique to that receiver. These PPVs CAN NOT be ordered by accident and no they do not get mixed up with somebody else's receiver somehow. We can reverse PPV charges to a certain extent but only once in the lifetime of the account and only if you agree to be walked through on how to lock the receiver. If you want to be really sure that they aren't ordered again we can totally disable remote PPV ordering on your receiver.

For those customers that call in to complain because we're going to charge them to send out a technican to fix whatever is broke. Get real. Listen, it costs us money each and every time we send out a technician to fix an issue, whatever it may be. Yes, cable may do it for free but realistically they don't have nearly as sophisticated equipment as we do nor as many points to troubleshoot, our techs do have to get a bit more training than your average cable tech. I HIGHLY recommend that new customers coming on board sign up under the Digital Home Plan that ThaGrandCow spoke about. Yes you may never own the equipment but think of it this way, if something breaks be it the receiver or something else we fix it at no charge unless it's an act of god or customer damage. If you're already signed up I highly recommend getting the Premium Extended Warranty added to your bill. It's very similar to the Digital Home Plan coverage in that it adds $4.99 a month to your bill ($20 activation fee), except service calls aren't free they're $29.99. Considering that they're usually $99 that's a fairly hefty discount especially since if they need to replace a part they do so onsite instead of you having to wait to go through the RA process.


 

isekii

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Dish Network charges for sending out to do service work ?
Since when ?
I had Dish Network comeout 3 times to my home, and they never charged me once.

How many PPV can you dispute ? Just once or for the 1st month ;)
 

nsafreak

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Originally posted by: isekii
Dish Network charges for sending out to do service work ?
Since when ?
I had Dish Network comeout 3 times to my home, and they never charged me once.

How many PPV can you dispute ? Just once or for the 1st month ;)

Well I'm going to take a guess & say you're signed up under the Digital Home Plan or you're within the first 90 days of your install in which case we would not charge to send out a tech.

The PPV dispute thing isn't the kind of thing I'm going to make public knowledge :p
 

bunker

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That has to be one of the best rants I've seen her in a long damn time. The only thing keeping it from being a 10 is the length. Other than that, good one :)

Oh btw, GrandCow, I've got a dish and single lnbf in my garage. It was the 2nd dish I had installed to get PBS (dropped Dish about 6 months ago).
Anything I could do with it?
 

isekii

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Originally posted by: bunker
That has to be one of the best rants I've seen her in a long damn time. The only thing keeping it from being a 10 is the length. Other than that, good one :)

Oh btw, GrandCow, I've got a dish and single lnbf in my garage. It was the 2nd dish I had installed to get PBS (dropped Dish about 6 months ago).
Anything I could do with it?


sell it
 

bunker

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Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: bunker
That has to be one of the best rants I've seen her in a long damn time. The only thing keeping it from being a 10 is the length. Other than that, good one :)

Oh btw, GrandCow, I've got a dish and single lnbf in my garage. It was the 2nd dish I had installed to get PBS (dropped Dish about 6 months ago).
Anything I could do with it?


sell it

Isn't worth much and I tried a while ago here on FS/FT and I don't sell on Ebay.
 

ThaGrandCow

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Originally posted by: Millennium
ThaGrandCow- I assume the technical department is different from the new sales department? I called a few days ago to get service when I move to my new house and couldn't understand a damn thing the lady was saying. I ended up going with direct TV because I never could get anyone that spoke English...

A little piece of advice... if you're in calling in always ask for a technical department... we are trained on everything (tech, billing, new sales, etc...). This comes from our problems in the past of having our motto of "1 call resolution" (if possible, obviously it's not ALWAYS the case, but we try because it's good for business), and when we solve the technical issue a lot of times customers then say:
"ok now I need to call back and talk to someone who can explain my bill/sign my sister up (cause almost every other company doesn't have the level of phone and in-person service we do; please if you've had a bad experience yes we know that noone is always 100% perfect but our numbers and the other 999 out of 1,000 customers speak for themselves and that means a lot to non-technical people)/add this to my account.

My technical office is in Christiansburg, VA... about 5 miles outside of Virginia Tech college. About 80% of the people there are college students and are very intelligent. My office is one of the 2 (IIRC) main technical offices... when you select a technical problem it will more than likely get sent to us. Either way, the techs know their stuff :)
 

isekii

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Originally posted by: bunker
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: bunker
That has to be one of the best rants I've seen her in a long damn time. The only thing keeping it from being a 10 is the length. Other than that, good one :)

Oh btw, GrandCow, I've got a dish and single lnbf in my garage. It was the 2nd dish I had installed to get PBS (dropped Dish about 6 months ago).
Anything I could do with it?


sell it

Isn't worth much and I tried a while ago here on FS/FT and I don't sell on Ebay.

Make it into an 802.11 antenna ?
 

ThaGrandCow

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Originally posted by: bunker
That has to be one of the best rants I've seen her in a long damn time. The only thing keeping it from being a 10 is the length. Other than that, good one :)

Oh btw, GrandCow, I've got a dish and single lnbf in my garage. It was the 2nd dish I had installed to get PBS (dropped Dish about 6 months ago).
Anything I could do with it?

Honestly? Take it out to the range and shoot it.

We're in the same position as direcTV... we have so many channels that we have to broadcast from multiple sattelite locations to get all the channels: 110 and 119 degrees. Since we've got so many promotions to get free equipment (w/a 12 month contract) everyone signs up to get the 2 sattelite location system. We even have promotions to get the people with 1 sattelite systems into the 2 sattelite systems for free (w/another 12 month contract).

Your single sattelite system is worth ~$20... and even that's pushing it (I think the dish network signal pirates have moved onto the 2 dish systems now). But think of it the other way... when you had it installed, if you got it the way I think you got it, the equipment was free (w/no contract) and you were charged $0. Lets all give thanks to our glorious judicial system ;)
The only hint I'll give to this free equipment and technical service call is: Must carry.
And unless you're spanish, it's not worth it, so don't waste your time.
 

ThaGrandCow

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Originally posted by: nsafreak
Originally posted by: isekii
Dish Network charges for sending out to do service work ?
Since when ?
I had Dish Network comeout 3 times to my home, and they never charged me once.

How many PPV can you dispute ? Just once or for the 1st month ;)

Well I'm going to take a guess & say you're signed up under the Digital Home Plan or you're within the first 90 days of your install in which case we would not charge to send out a tech.

The PPV dispute thing isn't the kind of thing I'm going to make public knowledge :p

I'll make it public knowledge, since I already did in my previous post:
In the life of the account, we will *maybe* reverse the charge for *1* PPV event. This goes on your permanent customer notes so you can't do it multiple times.

The $30 WWF PPV does not count, it's mainly for like the $4 PPV movie that was ordered... and if you get a generous CSR, MAYBE that $10 PPV that junior ordered cause he was curious. But only *1* movie in the entire *life* of the account... that's it. And only if you've got a good excuse (like getting out of a speeding ticket: officer, I've gotta sh!t real bad, that's why I was speeding... I'm about to crap my pants). After that, we'll tell you how to set up locks, but if you don't listen then it's your own fault and you're liable for those charges.
 

stormbv

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Thank you for bringing country hicks like myself quality television with your magic laser beams from the sky!