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Those with HTPCs....

MrMatt

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For those that have HTPCs, do you leave them in your living room or what? Also what kind of mouse/keyboard do you use? I assume wireless? It just seems like it'd be a pain in the ass, isn't it easier to just have a receiver & Blue Ray player, and then a computer in your office or room for gaming?
 
No need for a keyboard/mouse at all. Any decent PVR software will be able to interface with a multitude of remotes using an IR receiver.
 
I have mine in a normal sized tower sitting behind the plasma screen. Everything I want to do is done through the remote. If I do need a mouse, the remote has a mouse mode button, and buttons that correspond to a right and left click. I also use logmein.com on it so I can remote in to do software updates and such without needing an actual mouse and keyboard.
 
I have a PC in the living room, tho it's primarily for PVR duty then a complete HTPC. I have both a remote that came with the PVR card as well as a wireless keyboard w/ integrated pointing device for more advanced tasks. It's not like i'd sit down on the couch and use it for regular computing tho.
 
The Lian Li C30i that I use for my HTPC comes with a hand IR remote thats actually pretty useful as a mouse. There is also a Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse that mostly gets used for entering the first few characters of a band for quick searches.

FYI, that particular Lian Li case is sadly discontinued but many HTPC cases include the exact same remote.
 
My father went through several stages before finally ponying up for a true HTPC. First, he bought one of those glorified external hard drives (MediaGate), which suffered from an horrible interface, limited file support, and weak processing ability. Then I convinced him to try an Apple TV. With a bit of hacking, it was able to do 90 per cent of what he required, but it was still underpowered (a 1 GHz cpu isn't really sufficient for 1080p H.264) and a little awkward for the pater to use (this was pre-Boxee). The fatal flaw was dodgy non-English subtitle support on its hacked MPlayer, even after several days of efforts on my part. And there was no way the pater would be able to modify anything himself, given Apple TV's dependence on the command line.

So eventually he bit the bullet, and I assembled a Windows Vista HTPC for him round the AMD 780G platform (see my signature rigs). I got him an MCE remote, but he feels more comfortable controlling the HTPC from a wireless keyboard and LCD monitor connected to his Antec Fusion case. The case itself sits in one of his home theatre racks, where it fits in quite well, physically and aesthetically. Video playback gets displayed on a big rolldown screen (somewhere around three metres diagonal) via three-colour CRT projector. He has a dedicated home theatre in the basement where all this kit goes. I was a little surprised how miserly he was about the whole 'media centre' business, given that he's spent tens of thousands of dollars on British speakers and American vacuum-tube amps (yes, Anglo-Saxons still make consumer electronics -- but it's the sort of kit most of us could never afford). If he'd just bought an HTPC from the beginning, he would ultimately have saved a few hundred dollars and several months of grief.

Despite the fact that he normally controls the HTPC from a desk a few feet away, he still uses a wireless Logitech keyboard and mouse (2.4 GHz freq). There are quite enough cables in his home theatre stacks already.

If you're simply going to watch movie discs and 'broadcast' TV (via cable, etc), then you don't need an HTPC. But if you intend to watch a lot of, well, 'computer' files (whether streamed, ripped yourself, or stumbled upon in the shadier corners of the Intarweb), you'll probably want a computer. Arguably, non-PC consumer electronic kit out there can do a fair job at this (media extenders, Xboxen, the Apple TV). My ex-girlfriend has resisted the HTPC idea, so I've wound up burning discs with XviD files which her Philips DVD player is usually able to recognise. Many TVs and players can input files through USB... But by its very nature, a true PC is going to have the most flexibility in terms of file support, customisation, expansion, etc.

A future Apple TV running Boxee on an nVidia 'Ion' platform (Atom cpu and GeForce 9400M) looks like it could make a near-perfect media centre, if only Hollywood would acknowledge reality. We all know that isn't going to happen. The XBox 360 and PS3 also make good candidates.

In a couple of days we'll be receiving a Pioneer KURO plasma for the family room. The electronics stack there needs to be simpler and less obtrusive, so I'm probably going to connect the Apple TV there and give Boxee a spin.
 
i use logitech dinovo mini, good range and small and stylish and it has both keyboard and mouse function
 
Originally posted by: Mwing
i use logitech dinovo mini, good range and small and stylish and it has both keyboard and mouse function

I just wish that the dinovo wasn't so #$%@#$% expensive.
Definitely not worth more than $50.
 
1 pc, in the living room, only screen is the hdtv.

pc, tv, receiver, dvd player, cable box (each has it's own remote, unused)
logitech di novo edge, mx revolution (for normal use)
razer lachesis, lycosa (for games)
logitech harmony 880
 
I have my rig system in my living room, i use it to game as well as for HTPC purposes, i use a I-rocks 2.4Gz mouse keyboard($60) and am happy with it, it has a 45 foot advertised range and have tested to 20-25 feet and it works fine even for gaming
 
WMC interface really really sucks. Why doesn't microsoft hire, you know, some artists to help with software design! Too many programmers, not enough media guys!
 
Originally posted by: MrMatt
For those that have HTPCs, do you leave them in your living room or what? Also what kind of mouse/keyboard do you use? I assume wireless? It just seems like it'd be a pain in the ass, isn't it easier to just have a receiver & Blue Ray player, and then a computer in your office or room for gaming?

I have a dedicated HTPC in my living room using an Antec NSK2480 case. Used to control it via USB keyboard/mouse connected to an unpowered USB hub off an extension cable. Worked great as long as you ignore the cable (which I'm good at doing). Currently use a Logitech diNovo keyboard with it. I use it to watch TV (my Westinghouse 42" doesn't have a tuner) and for playing media files. Otherwise, it barely gets used. I used to try gaming on it, but the video card is insufficient (Radeon 2600 Pro). Maybe I'll upgrade it sometime this Summer.

I use my "main" rig for gaming from home, and my LAN party rig for, well, bringing to LAN parties.

I'm not high-def yet, so still using DVDs which I play with my DVD player. Much easier than using the HTPC, IMO. Heck, if my 42" LCD had a built-in tuner, my HTPC would barely see any use.
 
i love my dinovo edge for my main PC (a HTPC). and if i were to get a second HTPC, it will be controlled by a dinovo mini.
 
My HTPC is in the living room. It's in just a a generic case, but is still very quiet (can't hear it from more than 3-4ft away). I affectionately call it the "ghetto tivo", since i use it for PVR functionality (2 SD tuners, 2 HD tuners). But it also plays all my media files including music and video. I also use it for Amazon's video on demand to stream movie rentals to the TV. I haven't tried it yet, but Hulu should work like a champ too. When the recorded TV drive starts to fill up, I compress the files to AVI or x264 and then watch them later. It hooks up to my fileserver (right next to it) which houses all of my movies so I don't have to load up DVDs anytime I want to watch a movie.

I use a MCE remote for all of the media functions and a wireless keyboard and mouse for "regular" computer use. I also setup TightVNC to remotely access it from another computer, like my main desktop or laptop.

For software I use MediaPortal which is just like Windows Media Center, only better 🙂
 
I have an HTPC in the living room. For a while I had a gyration mouse and keyboard, but those broke so now I use a wired mouse and keyboard. I also have an IR remote that works pretty well in media center programs. Boxee is an excellent app, love it. Windows Media Center has a bit more functionality (can run programs from it and make gimped use of TV tuners) but it's interface sucks, it doesn't support as many file formats, it doesn't have very many streaming web sites in it, and it does a horrible job at finding and organizing media.

For a while, I also had 50+ feet of component cable running from my main PC out to the living room, as well as 50+ feet of USB repeaters so I could plug in the wireless kb/mouse receiver within range (as well as a usb hub).
 
Received the Pioneer KURO at my parents' house yesterday. Looks bloody brilliant. Tried to instal Boxee on our Apple TV but failed. Had to leave before I could figure it out. I'll revisit my parents' house this weekend to try again. AnandTech seemed fans of the Media Centre interface, but Boxee seems far superior (though it lacks DVR capabilities).

ElConejito, what is your signal source for your HD tuners? ATSC? Clear QAM? I hate the fact one essentially cannot build your own CableCARD-compliant HTPC.
 
Silverstone LC20M w/ Harmony 880 and Logitech DiNovo Edge keyboard 🙂 - I don't game on it at all, its a full time video machine. Recording shows (4xanalog/digial hybrid tuner), commercial stripping and video reencoding all set on folder monitoring.
 
Second on the DiNovo Mini, got it on sale at Amazon not to long ago, was worth it. About to pick up a Harmony One just to consolidate all my remotes (TV, XBox, PC, U-Verse)
 
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