Those with factory navigation

[Imdmn04]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Imdmn04
OEMs looks way better on the dash.
OEMs can't be jacked. Nor do you have to take out the damn thing every time u get out the car, or put it on when you get into the car.
OEMs has integrated functions such as using the NAV screen to display AC, vehicle health/diagnostics, and music info.
OEMs nav have way stronger satellite signal as its antenna is housed in a sharkfin on the exterior of the vehicle.

Did I mention portable GPS looks ugly and ghetto as hell? Most mount points are not safe and are within the vicinity of the airbag shall they explode, which will fly that thing into your head.

The only thing a portable GPS have over an OEM GPS is price. There shouldn't be even be a comparison, it is like comparing a Civic to a Mercedes, both will serve the intended purpose of the product, but someone is willing to pay more for the extras. There is simply no point to compare them, different level of products intended for different market segments. People buying $200 portables are not gonna buy $2000 OEM navs.

You don;t know much about cars do you?

1. They get stolen all the time. Go to eBay/Craigslist/etc... and look at the price of a used one. Why steal a car when you can get as much money for one small peice.

2. And signal? I have used several stand alones and never had a signal problem. So what are you basing that off of? the ads to upsell people to oem nav?

Anything can be stolen. But the chance of theft on a portable unit is much higher than an OEM one.

Exterior antenna will lock onto the satellite faster and fare better if you drive through urban areas with skyscrapers all around you.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Funyuns101

Originally posted by: rh71
just wondering with the portable unit users here.. how many have real time traffic? Is it free or not?

what about OEM navi users?

my $99 Navigon has free traffic info (lifetime). It works just fine and I can use it any car I want. It's hard to justify spending an extra $1000-2000 on a built-in Sat/Nav.
Then again, my car is 12 years old and obviously didn't offer such luxuries.
Regardless, I don't think I'm going to shell out that much extra on my next car.

well I knew about that navigon (I waited in line for it 2 years ago, unsuccessfully)... any other $100-$200s that do it lifetime? Think we need to compare apples to apples when saying the $1-$2k unit can't compare. That's the only reason I bring it up. But I'm not even sure other OEMs do real time traffic... it's kind of a big selling point IMO.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Imdmn04

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Imdmn04
OEMs looks way better on the dash.
OEMs can't be jacked. Nor do you have to take out the damn thing every time u get out the car, or put it on when you get into the car.
OEMs has integrated functions such as using the NAV screen to display AC, vehicle health/diagnostics, and music info.
OEMs nav have way stronger satellite signal as its antenna is housed in a sharkfin on the exterior of the vehicle.

Did I mention portable GPS looks ugly and ghetto as hell? Most mount points are not safe and are within the vicinity of the airbag shall they explode, which will fly that thing into your head.

The only thing a portable GPS have over an OEM GPS is price. There shouldn't be even be a comparison, it is like comparing a Civic to a Mercedes, both will serve the intended purpose of the product, but someone is willing to pay more for the extras. There is simply no point to compare them, different level of products intended for different market segments. People buying $200 portables are not gonna buy $2000 OEM navs.

You don;t know much about cars do you?

1. They get stolen all the time. Go to eBay/Craigslist/etc... and look at the price of a used one. Why steal a car when you can get as much money for one small peice.

2. And signal? I have used several stand alones and never had a signal problem. So what are you basing that off of? the ads to upsell people to oem nav?

Anything can be stolen. But the chance of theft on a portable unit is much higher than an OEM one.

Exterior antenna will lock onto the satellite faster and fare better if you drive through urban areas with skyscrapers all around you.

yes but I can buy 10+ GPS units and still have cash letf over compared to factory ones. Have just 1 oem stolen and you will know what real pain is.

And again what are you basing that on? I have used many oem and aftermarket GPS units and there is no real difference.

 

[Turin39789]

my cell phone has a free google maps application if I ever get really lost

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
yes but I can buy 10+ GPS units and still have cash letf over compared to factory ones. Have just 1 oem stolen and you will know what real pain is.

And again what are you basing that on? I have used many oem and aftermarket GPS units and there is no real difference.

To be fair, you might have to include the repair cost such as messed up lock (slim jimmed) or smashed window. So call it 5

Most people don't leave GPS in plain site. Hell, I put away the mat too.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Contrary to Zenmers view I have OEM nav and I have so far:-

- Updated the OS to a later version adding features and options
- Updated the maps by simply getting a new disc
- Upgraded the Monitor to 16:9 from 4:3
- Added iPod integration that operates from the Nav monitor and appears 100% OEM

In the future I can update the hardware itself to a later generation as it is modular to a degree.

What I do like about the built in OEM nav is:

- TMC traffic
- Direct integration to the OEM phone system for calling POIs like hotels, etc.

What I don't like about the built in nav:

- No speed camera warning feature
- Jog dial UI, not touch screen.

I have had several stand alone units, and while these are fantastic, there is always the chance that you need it and you left it at home; or the thing isn't charged and you left the cable at your friends house or you are already driving and you didn't mount it before you left and now your on I-95 traveling at 90 Mph and can't fit it without face-planting into a semi. OEM nav, even with all it's faults, is like a navigational butler; always at hand to help you out!

/0

 

[Imdmn04]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Imdmn04

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Imdmn04
OEMs looks way better on the dash.
OEMs can't be jacked. Nor do you have to take out the damn thing every time u get out the car, or put it on when you get into the car.
OEMs has integrated functions such as using the NAV screen to display AC, vehicle health/diagnostics, and music info.
OEMs nav have way stronger satellite signal as its antenna is housed in a sharkfin on the exterior of the vehicle.

Did I mention portable GPS looks ugly and ghetto as hell? Most mount points are not safe and are within the vicinity of the airbag shall they explode, which will fly that thing into your head.

The only thing a portable GPS have over an OEM GPS is price. There shouldn't be even be a comparison, it is like comparing a Civic to a Mercedes, both will serve the intended purpose of the product, but someone is willing to pay more for the extras. There is simply no point to compare them, different level of products intended for different market segments. People buying $200 portables are not gonna buy $2000 OEM navs.

You don;t know much about cars do you?

1. They get stolen all the time. Go to eBay/Craigslist/etc... and look at the price of a used one. Why steal a car when you can get as much money for one small peice.

2. And signal? I have used several stand alones and never had a signal problem. So what are you basing that off of? the ads to upsell people to oem nav?

Anything can be stolen. But the chance of theft on a portable unit is much higher than an OEM one.

Exterior antenna will lock onto the satellite faster and fare better if you drive through urban areas with skyscrapers all around you.

yes but I can buy 10+ GPS units and still have cash letf over compared to factory ones. Have just 1 oem stolen and you will know what real pain is.

And again what are you basing that on? I have used many oem and aftermarket GPS units and there is no real difference.

I've used OEM units where a lock was acquired within 5 seconds as opposed to 45 seconds on many portables.

I've also driven my own vehicle (w/oem nav) through downtown Seattle, where it fared much better than my company vehicle (w/ a portable Garmin). With the Garmin, the position of my vehicle jumped all around driving near skyscrapers.

 

[KDKPSJ]

I am sure most of you never got stolen your cute GPS. I got stolen mine right at the apartment parking lot right in front of the door at 9 pm, assume they took 5 minutes (or less). No, I am not living in ghetto area, and no, I hid it in globe box under bunch of stuffs (CD, manual, cleaning tool, and tissue), and theft still found and took it.

What really pissed me off was that actual damage to the car was about $ 1900, which insurance covered but still paid $ 250 deductible, had to rent a car to get it fixed, and of course GPS is gone as the insurance will never reimberse aftermarket accessories.

If it was in-dash OEM unit? 1. it won't happen in 5 minutes, 2. they will look for other car more likely, and even if it got stolen (if the theft was retired auto mechanic who can reassemble center unit in 5 minutes), 3. the insurance will cover it as it was part of car, so ending with $ 250 out of pocket with nav returned.

 

[rh71]

my brother in law had his $400 unit stolen because he left the stand on the window... the culprit broke his window, found the unit in the glove compartment along with some documents with his name/address in there which they used to enable the GPS. They also walked the documents to his front doorstep and left it there to taunt him. Crooklyn.

You know, sometimes I make short trips and wouldn't feel like pocketing my GPS with me... what if there were a change of plans and I happened to need it (like when my wife fell asleep on the train and I had to drive 25 mins to where I've never been)? It's just not worth all the trouble carrying it like an extra brick in my pocket everytime... already have wallet, cellphone, and keys... y'all gonna need man-purses soon. Would be tempted to leave it behind... but then what's the point of that? Built-in is for convenience & simplicity.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: everydae
I am sure most of you never got stolen your cute GPS. I got stolen mine right at the apartment parking lot right in front of the door at 9 pm, assume they took 5 minutes (or less). No, I am not living in ghetto area, and no, I hid it in globe box under bunch of stuffs (CD, manual, cleaning tool, and tissue), and theft still found and took it.

What really pissed me off was that actual damage to the car was about $ 1900, which insurance covered but still paid $ 250 deductible, had to rent a car to get it fixed, and of course GPS is gone as the insurance will never reimberse aftermarket accessories.

If it was in-dash OEM unit? 1. it won't happen in 5 minutes, 2. they will look for other car more likely, and even if it got stolen (if the theft was retired auto mechanic who can reassemble center unit in 5 minutes), 3. the insurance will cover it as it was part of car, so ending with $ 250 out of pocket with nav returned.

Sounds like you were scoped out before hand.

 

[KDKPSJ]

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: everydae
I am sure most of you never got stolen your cute GPS. I got stolen mine right at the apartment parking lot right in front of the door at 9 pm, assume they took 5 minutes (or less). No, I am not living in ghetto area, and no, I hid it in globe box under bunch of stuffs (CD, manual, cleaning tool, and tissue), and theft still found and took it.

What really pissed me off was that actual damage to the car was about $ 1900, which insurance covered but still paid $ 250 deductible, had to rent a car to get it fixed, and of course GPS is gone as the insurance will never reimberse aftermarket accessories.

If it was in-dash OEM unit? 1. it won't happen in 5 minutes, 2. they will look for other car more likely, and even if it got stolen (if the theft was retired auto mechanic who can reassemble center unit in 5 minutes), 3. the insurance will cover it as it was part of car, so ending with $ 250 out of pocket with nav returned.

Sounds like you were scoped out before hand.

Probably. But if I had in-dash OEM unit in my car, I wonder if thief cared about me and my car at all.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: everydae

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: everydae
I am sure most of you never got stolen your cute GPS. I got stolen mine right at the apartment parking lot right in front of the door at 9 pm, assume they took 5 minutes (or less). No, I am not living in ghetto area, and no, I hid it in globe box under bunch of stuffs (CD, manual, cleaning tool, and tissue), and theft still found and took it.

What really pissed me off was that actual damage to the car was about $ 1900, which insurance covered but still paid $ 250 deductible, had to rent a car to get it fixed, and of course GPS is gone as the insurance will never reimberse aftermarket accessories.

If it was in-dash OEM unit? 1. it won't happen in 5 minutes, 2. they will look for other car more likely, and even if it got stolen (if the theft was retired auto mechanic who can reassemble center unit in 5 minutes), 3. the insurance will cover it as it was part of car, so ending with $ 250 out of pocket with nav returned.

Sounds like you were scoped out before hand.

Probably. But if I had in-dash OEM unit in my car, I wonder if thief cared about me and my car at all.

You are correct that in your case in-dash might have saved you. Or they might just take the whole car

 

[KDKPSJ]

Originally posted by: sdifox

You are correct that in your case in-dash might have saved you. Or they might just take the whole car

Haha, I hope they did, so I can track them down with BMW Assist, and get $$ out of comprehensive coverage and my GAP ins. Anyway, as I said, I think the trauma will keep chasing me until I buy next car.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: everydae

Originally posted by: sdifox

You are correct that in your case in-dash might have saved you. Or they might just take the whole car

Haha, I hope they did, so I can track them down with BMW Assist, and get $$ out of comprehensive coverage and my GAP ins. Anyway, as I said, I think the trauma will keep chasing me until I buy next car.

Sorry to hear that. When I was in my early teens and we were stopped at a traffic light, 2 dudes came up besides up and grabbed my dad's arm and ripped the rolex right off his wrist.

I guess it's a good thing they didn't cut his hand off first. I still remember it vividly.