Those who got the 8700k

[pcslookout]

Are you mad that the 9700k is around the corner with being released or are you happy with your purchase ?

 

[VirtualLarry]

It's actually looking like an 8-core Coffee Lake was purely speculation, if you follow the most recent news / roadmaps.

 

[RichUK]

Not when the cost is covered in a day's pay.

 

[DrMrLordX]

It's actually looking like an 8-core Coffee Lake was purely speculation, if you follow the most recent news / roadmaps.

Yeah, Intel might not have anything better until 2019. Those 8700ks are gonna have to last for awhile.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Not when the cost is covered in a day's pay.

I want your job, especially if that is after taxes!!!!
But yea, I have said before, cpus is a hobby where it is relatively inexpensive to have the top of the line product.

Edit: I hope the 9700k does come out, but personally, six cores is more than enough for me, should I decide to upgrade.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

I love my 8700K and will probably snag a 9700k when released. The 8700k was well worth every penny I spent and if I had to do it over again I would buy one again in a heart beat.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Are you mad that the 9700k is around the corner with being released or are you happy with your purchase ?

I'm building my 8700 non-K system tomorrow now that I have all the parts. I bought it long after the rumors of 8c/16t parts came out. I make enough that I have no budget constraints: I could have gone with a Threadripper or i9-79870XE.

4c/8t 7700K is fast enough for any current graphics card and game. The 8700 gives me +50% "future proofing" with a 65 watt TDP instead of 91. That's enough to make me happy.

You can wait forever for the next new thing, or you can make the best available choice at the time you're ready to upgrade. For me the time is now and the CPU is the 8700 non-K.

 

[whm1974]

I'm building my 8700 non-K system tomorrow now that I have all the parts. I bought it long after the rumors of 8c/16t parts came out. I make enough that I have no budget constraints: I could have gone with a Threadripper or i9-79870XE.

4c/8t 7700K is fast enough for any current graphics card and game. The 8700 gives me +50% "future proofing" with a 65 watt TDP instead of 91. That's enough to make me happy.

You can wait forever for the next new thing, or you can make the best available choice at the time you're ready to upgrade. For me the time is now and the CPU is the 8700 non-K.

Yeah looking at the benchmarks, the i5-8400 and 8700 seems to be the best CPUs to get if one isn't overclocking. I would be looking at the 8700 if I was building a new system anytime soon.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Nope, not mad and yes, happy with my purchase. If a 9700K drops and there is a compelling reason to buy one, I'll buy one. More than likely, I won't and the 8700K will be in my main system for several years just like my 2600K was. If I have any regret at all, it is that I didn't wait another month or so and grab the 7820X at Fry's for $444.

 

[Borealis7]

i was slightly POed when the 8700K released not 9 months after the 7700K which i had bought at launch, but it really wasn't warranted. benchmarks show the 7700K is one of the best gaming chips today, so i got over it.

point is, no reason to be angry when you buy the latest hardware and X months later a new chip comes out. that's how progress works. be happy you have a good CPU for many years to come.

 

[DrMrLordX]

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point is, no reason to be angry when you buy the latest hardware and X months later a new chip comes out. that's how progress works. be happy you have a good CPU for many years to come.

Exactly, what should worry you is when they have nothing to launch for a long time thereafter . . .

 

[ehume]

i was slightly POed when the 8700K released not 9 months after the 7700K which i had bought at launch, but it really wasn't warranted. benchmarks show the 7700K is one of the best gaming chips today, so i got over it.

point is, no reason to be angry when you buy the latest hardware and X months later a new chip comes out. that's how progress works. be happy you have a good CPU for many years to come.

I have the opposite problem: I was waiting for the 8700k to come out August 1. Now I'm going to wait until the prices fall after Christmas. I'm hoping I can OC mine enough to test heatsinks.

 

[thxdd]

Zero regret going from a 3770k@4.5 to the 8700k@5.1. This was a great upgrade.

 

[StinkyPinky]

No. It's not like the 8700k suddenly becomes less capable if they release the 9700k.

 

[CHADBOGA]

What is the price gap between the 8600K and the 8700K?

It might be different elsewhere, but in Australia, it seems like there is a terrible value for money choice to be made, just for hyperthreading.

With these chips being so scarce in recent times, plenty of people were happy to just grab the first 6 core they could get their hands on, but now as the dust settles and availability improves, I wonder how many people will prefer the 8700K to the 8600K?

 

[epsilon84]

What is the price gap between the 8600K and the 8700K?

It might be different elsewhere, but in Australia, it seems like there is a terrible value for money choice to be made, just for hyperthreading.

With these chips being so scarce in recent times, plenty of people were happy to just grab the first 6 core they could get their hands on, but now as the dust settles and availability improves, I wonder how many people will prefer the 8700K to the 8600K?

About $170 AUD difference, about $AU560 for a 8700K vs $AU390 for a 8600K.

Probably worth it if you actually need the threads, which can give a ~25% uplift in MT software. For gaming, it's probably not worth it, at least not in the short term. 6 threads is plenty for gaming today, but in 2020? I doubt it.

I think in the long run the 8700K will end up being the better buy than the 8600K, even for gaming, the same way the 2600K has aged a lot better than a 2500K has and still runs todays AAA games well, whereas the 2500K is thread limited and struggles to maintain 60fps mins in many games.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Kinda depends if the 9700k will work with z370 or not. If it does, then in the future someone with a 8600k can slot in an 8c/16t cpu. If so the 8600k looks a good current buy for a gamer.

 

[epsilon84]

Well apparently the 9700K doesn't exist (at least not in CFL form) and some posters are convinced Intel won't release anything better than a 8700K until 2019...

Frankly I find that hard to believe but time will tell

 

[CHADBOGA]

About $170 AUD difference, about $AU560 for a 8700K vs $AU390 for a 8600K.

Probably worth it if you actually need the threads, which can give a ~25% uplift in MT software. For gaming, it's probably not worth it, at least not in the short term. 6 threads is plenty for gaming today, but in 2020? I doubt it.

I think in the long run the 8700K will end up being the better buy than the 8600K, even for gaming, the same way the 2600K has aged a lot better than a 2500K has and still runs todays AAA games well, whereas the 2500K is thread limited and struggles to maintain 60fps mins in many games.

In the past, I think the dollar difference in Australia between a 2500K and 2600K model was about AUD$130/$US97.84 or less and it stayed at that amount through subsequent family releases.

But now in Australia, getting hyperthreading on the top i7 model, is AUD$199/$US150 more expensive.

I can get the i5 8600K for AUD$370 and the i7 8700K for AUD$569

That is a hell of a premium for hyperthreading, especially if you express it as a percentage of the i5 8600K's purchase price.

 

[coercitiv]

Are you mad that the 9700k is around the corner with being released

Around the corner? Latest Intel roadmap leak doesn't even include 9000 series, suggesting it may be a late 2018 at best. It's definitely not around the corner.

 

[IRobot23]

Why would people care about it?
i7 9700K will have same performance per clock. Probably 9th gen. is just, because of paper launch of 8th gen.

Intel 14nm is just superior to anything else right know. 10/7nm will show new improvements in CPU.

 

[PingSpike]

Is there any concrete evidence the 9700K is even coming? I saw some suggestion of i5 9000 series parts but they had no information and might have been mobile. I didn't see a single i7 in that list. And that recent screen grab suggests there isn't a mainstream 8 core from Intel coming until 2019.

 

[LTC8K6]

If the 9700K is coming, I don't think it's an 8 core chip.

I think it is an improved 8700K.

 

[epsilon84]

In the past, I think the dollar difference in Australia between a 2500K and 2600K model was about AUD$130/$US97.84 or less and it stayed at that amount through subsequent family releases.

But now in Australia, getting hyperthreading on the top i7 model, is AUD$199/$US150 more expensive.

I can get the i5 8600K for AUD$370 and the i7 8700K for AUD$569

That is a hell of a premium for hyperthreading, especially if you express it as a percentage of the i5 8600K's purchase price.

I'd like to point out total system cost here, as CPU prices in isolation can skew the value perspective a lot. In a $2000 PC build, a $200 difference in CPU cost only equates to 10% of the total system cost, and if you run heavy MT software, then the 25% gain from HT would be more than worth it.

Even if you don't build an entirely new system (for example, you are reusing your old PSU, GPU, SSDs/HDDs, case etc) you still have to factor in the total platform cost. Which would mean AU$200+ for a decent Z370 motherboard, and another $250+ for 16GB DDR4 3200.

Which means the minimum platform cost would be approx $820 for a 8600K and $1020 for a 8700K - again, that would make it worth it from a price/performance POV if you run highly threaded apps.

As I said earlier, gaming would be the main area where a case can be made for the 8600K being a distinctly better value than the 8700K, as the vast majority of current games run just as well on the 8600K as the 8700K. Will the same be the case in a few years though? I suspect not.

This is why I brought up the 2500K vs 2600K example. Had I bought a 2600K at launch instead, I wouldn't have needed tp upgrade this year. Alas, I bought the 2500K and it started to struggle with the latest AAA titles that run a lot better on 8 threads, so I bought a 2600K and now I'm back above 60fps mins in the games that I play.

Could the same scenario play out in a few years when comparing the 8600K to 8700K? I would say so, as games are only going to get more multi-threaded from this point, not less.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

If the 9700K is coming, I don't think it's an 8 core chip.

I think it is an improved 8700K.

With the headroom the 8700k is showing, Intel could easily release a higher-clocked version and maybe increase the cache.