PC-ness defines what terms offend a group. Who are you to tell him what does or doesn't offend him.
That said, let it hereby be known that I will henceforth be personally offended if you refer to me as anything other than "oriental."
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
One of those describes color, the other describes origin.
Your comparison fails, unfortunately
it doesn't, and it doesn't, unfortunately. your innocence is astounding. there are multiple meanings and negative associations that come with both words besides simple "color" and origin", as i have explained earlier. words have histories. obviously in this case one will be worse than the other, but that is an issue of degrees not categories. you can ignore the connotations of the words, fine. but there is a reason people get their panties in a bundle when you use these words. failing to accept or even to acknowledge that there may be an issue is participant to prejudice. ignorance from the problem is not an excuse. at least not in the usa.
Originally posted by: Ricemarine
Woo for Washington!... So happy I live here
and yes, I find the word Oriental offensive.
You find the word oriental offensive but your username is Ricemarine?
How does what you posted have anything to do with colonial patronising? WW2 was a very brutal and barbaric war that the Japanese started with us. We also used to mount heads on tanks as trophys. Why are you neglegting to mention any of the atrocities perpetrated on the US, Australian and British soldiers? I won't even get into what they did to the Chinese or Filipinos. Hell at least the Japanese soldier was probably dead when they boiled the head, if it were the other way around the Japanese would just stick a living guys head in the water.
Here is a link at least we didn't eat any of those fine Japanese soldiers.
Originally posted by: makoto00
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
One of those describes color, the other describes origin.
Your comparison fails, unfortunately
it doesn't, and it doesn't, unfortunately. your innocence is astounding. there are multiple meanings and negative associations that come with both words besides simple "color" and origin", as i have explained earlier. words have histories. obviously in this case one will be worse than the other, but that is an issue of degrees not categories. you can ignore the connotations of the words, fine. but there is a reason people get their panties in a bundle when you use these words. failing to accept or even to acknowledge that there may be an issue is participant to prejudice. ignorance from the problem is not an excuse. at least not in the usa.
No, it does (and you do) fail. Sorry
Say what you want about how certain words make some people "feel," but it certainly doesn't change their definitions.
Being of Oriental origin myself, I can tell that not only do I not take offense to the word, I prefer it because its use allows for far more accuracy compared to using, "Asian."
--b0mbrman (The 0 is for 0riental)
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: makoto00
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
One of those describes color, the other describes origin.
Your comparison fails, unfortunately
it doesn't, and it doesn't, unfortunately. your innocence is astounding. there are multiple meanings and negative associations that come with both words besides simple "color" and origin", as i have explained earlier. words have histories. obviously in this case one will be worse than the other, but that is an issue of degrees not categories. you can ignore the connotations of the words, fine. but there is a reason people get their panties in a bundle when you use these words. failing to accept or even to acknowledge that there may be an issue is participant to prejudice. ignorance from the problem is not an excuse. at least not in the usa.
No, it does (and you do) fail. Sorry
Say what you want about how certain words make some people "feel," but it certainly doesn't change their definitions.
Being of Oriental origin myself, I can tell that not only do I not take offense to the word, I prefer it because its use allows for far more accuracy compared to using, "Asian."
--b0mbrman (The 0 is for 0riental)
you are a credit to your people.
Originally posted by: makoto00
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: makoto00
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
One of those describes color, the other describes origin.
Your comparison fails, unfortunately
it doesn't, and it doesn't, unfortunately. your innocence is astounding. there are multiple meanings and negative associations that come with both words besides simple "color" and origin", as i have explained earlier. words have histories. obviously in this case one will be worse than the other, but that is an issue of degrees not categories. you can ignore the connotations of the words, fine. but there is a reason people get their panties in a bundle when you use these words. failing to accept or even to acknowledge that there may be an issue is participant to prejudice. ignorance from the problem is not an excuse. at least not in the usa.
No, it does (and you do) fail. Sorry
Say what you want about how certain words make some people "feel," but it certainly doesn't change their definitions.
Being of Oriental origin myself, I can tell that not only do I not take offense to the word, I prefer it because its use allows for far more accuracy compared to using, "Asian."
--b0mbrman (The 0 is for 0riental)
you are a credit to your people.
Because I allow people with good intentions to speak to me in a comfortable way, rather than having to tip-toe around the ever-changing politics of which is the correct word to use to refer to the place my parents left over 30 years ago?
Thanks
Some guy who you meet for the first time: I see your last name is (Last name). Is that, uh, Ori...I mean Asi...I mean...with a hyphen...
You: Names and labels are important! Don't fuck with them!
Me (in the same situation): Ha ha. Don't worry about it. Oriental works. Let's grab a beer.
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I knew a Thai girl who called every single Asian she saw in the US an "oriental". Needless to say, she didn't have many "Oriental" friends.
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