Thomas Sowell: American democracy is being dismantled

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Danube

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Sowell is off since this down payment is voluntary and only if there is controversy or dispute between parties involved does courts need to rule and division of powers come into play

Obama's one time economic adviser Robert Reich was calling for BP's US operations to be taken over. I have no doubt that option was in the cards and BP knew it.

Why Obama Should Put BP Under Temporary Receivership
http://wallstreetpit.com/30081-why-obama-should-put-bp-under-temporary-receivership


It was an American company doing the drilling. Halliburton did the cementing. Nobody knows for sure what happened but Obama put more effort into mugging MP and demonizing oil than fixing the spill. Having an administration that goes around administering "justice" and demanding compensation that "it" will distribute is no cure for negligence.
 

Atreus21

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Obviously, we need to elect some Republicans this November to give them a majority in the House and Senate. Then, in 2012, we'll get rid of Obama, and the country will go back to the Utopia that it was when the Republicans controlled everything.

No. We need to elect just enough to republicans to create a gridlock. The less congress passes, the better we are.
 

dank69

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Fine print of OP:
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Technically, it has not been confiscated by Barack Obama, but that is a distinction without a difference...

Yep, no difference between asking for $20B and confiscating it. None at all. So let's just say he confiscated it from now on. :rolleyes:
 

umbrella39

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LMFAO:

American democracy is being dismantled, piece by piece, before our very eyes by the current administration in Washington, and few people seem to be concerned about it.

Yeah, even less seemed concerned about it when it was actually being dismantled by the previous administration, especially Thomas Sowell. So forgive me if I don't give two shits about what this hack thinks. Compelling arguments seldom start out with Hitler and the Nazis. This POS is no exception.
 

Ldir

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No Republican intentionally let a monumental enviro disaster go on intentionally so that a tortured ideology could be pursued.

Obama has been maximizing the Gulf disaster and not trying to solve solve or ameliorate it.

He went from ignoring the spill and offers of help, to kneecapping a corporation (with more US employees and almost even number of US investors) outside the courts. The idea the 20 billion is an escrow account is false because no third party handles it . Obama just went gangsta.

You are insane even by teabag standards. Either that or you are someone's troll account.
 

Attic

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BP owes the money, and they know it. They voluntarily put it up.

Who else would have administered it without skimming a billion off the top for service fees? And we all know it will not go without a hitch distributing it, so there would be huge chunks going to lawyers defending the distributor as well. At least the government will disperse all of the money to people affected by the spill.

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With the government in charge of dispersing the money, we will be lucky to see 1/3 of the money in the fund actually get to the people affected by the spill. Of course Gov't is horribly inefficient at handling things.
 

her209

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With the government in charge of dispersing the money, we will be lucky to see 1/3 of the money in the fund actually get to the people affected by the spill. Of course Gov't is horribly inefficient at handling things.
How did the 9/11 fund do?
 

Medellon

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Thomas Sowell is a misguided ideologue and not worth listening to IMO.

People like him can paint a picture all day and get it wrong.

Funny how he and people like him think Obama is the undoing of America while they had such silence about the Republicans.

I only "discovered" Thomas Sowell about 10 years ago and wish I had much sooner. I love watching the man tear apart liberal arguments on youtube when he was younger. He makes more sense than practically anyone out there and is a hell of a lot smarter than you or I.
 

dank69

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I only "discovered" Thomas Sowell about 10 years ago and wish I had much sooner. I love watching the man tear apart liberal arguments on youtube when he was younger. He makes more sense than practically anyone out there and is a hell of a lot smarter than you or I.
Speak for yourself.
 

jackschmittusa

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"With the government in charge of dispersing the money, we will be lucky to see 1/3 of the money in the fund actually get to the people affected by the spill"

I consider that statement a candidate for a "stupid of the day award". Please explain where the money will go.
 

irishScott

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They explain in the links. see "methodology"

They explain how they take everyone else's statistics and mix them together with no explanation of the formula, and how countries with "missing statistics" are compensated for be weighing the averages of the other statistics, with no explanation for that either.
 

Craig234

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I only "discovered" Thomas Sowell about 10 years ago and wish I had much sooner. I love watching the man tear apart liberal arguments on youtube when he was younger.

Some of the most dangerously wrong people are not the types of 'idiots' who don't fool people even though they express terrible views.

It's the people who do have the ability to 'sound' like they are right to many, to make convincing, sometimes complicated arguments whose misguided danger is hidden.

Take an Ayn Rand as an example, someone who had some very wrong and harmful views, but with 'Objectivism' and fallacies hidden in persuasive novels, could persuade people as otherwise able as an Alan Greenspan to a radical view putting our nation's economy at risk, and many others.

We could discuss him in more detail, but I've little doubt it's a waste of time, you sound like you are just going to appreciate his misguided views.

And it's a very time-consuming, unpleasant activity to try to expose someone as prolific as him, with decades of spewing needing a lot of effort to deconstruct.

There are the simple wrong people - Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck are easily corrected. But a Sowell, or a Buckley, or a Robert Kagan, it's more like a book to deconstruct.

And so the message board rarely gets past our opinion.

I understand you are crazy about him. So are Marx's followers, or Kennedy's, or Mao's, or Milton Friedman's or Paul Krugman's - some right, some wrong. Not much to be done.
 

Lanyap

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Some of the most dangerously wrong people are not the types of 'idiots' who don't fool people even though they express terrible views.

It's the people who do have the ability to 'sound' like they are right to many, to make convincing, sometimes complicated arguments whose misguided danger is hidden.

Take an Ayn Rand as an example, someone who had some very wrong and harmful views, but with 'Objectivism' and fallacies hidden in persuasive novels, could persuade people as otherwise able as an Alan Greenspan to a radical view putting our nation's economy at risk, and many others.

We could discuss him in more detail, but I've little doubt it's a waste of time, you sound like you are just going to appreciate his misguided views.

And it's a very time-consuming, unpleasant activity to try to expose someone as prolific as him, with decades of spewing needing a lot of effort to deconstruct.

There are the simple wrong people - Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck are easily corrected. But a Sowell, or a Buckley, or a Robert Kagan, it's more like a book to deconstruct.

And so the message board rarely gets past our opinion.

I understand you are crazy about him. So are Marx's followers, or Kennedy's, or Mao's, or Milton Friedman's or Paul Krugman's - some right, some wrong. Not much to be done.


Are there any conservatives that you actually agree with or are they all wrong, in your opinion?