This will never be settled! Do you use an all SCSI or all IDE based sytem and why?

NFS4 · Jan 31, 2001

All IDE for me...cuz I ain't spendin' extra $$$ for a few measly seconds saved or MBps here and there with SCSI.

Biggs · Jan 31, 2001

IDE since I don't have any use for the benefits of SCSI.

Gunbuster · Jan 31, 2001

I use a mix of whatever I get deals on.

Mem · Jan 31, 2001

IDE is what I use,I think it`s good value compared to SCSI which is still expensive.

Vegito · Jan 31, 2001

Yeah, I have to say what Gunbuster said, what ever is on sale!!! like buy.com has those quantum 9gb 7200, perferct for raid, 163.00 and 30 rebate ? up to 5 drives...

BTW Gunbuster... do you know where to get gunbuster on dvd ? I have copy and the ending was not done, if you seen it, B&W not animated, wonder if you know they have new versions or not..

gittyup · Jan 31, 2001

All IDE cause I am poor...

Imported · Jan 31, 2001

IDE cause I can't afford SCSI.

Zeeliv · Jan 31, 2001

In the other thread you act like someone using a SCSI Plex burner has to run an all SCSI system and so it's good that they are stopping make them. That's total BS, and so is your big price complaint about them. SCSI cards for things like CD-ROM's are cheap (only need a cheapo 20MB card), and the price diff between their IDE and their SCSI drives is pretty small. I got my 8x Plex a year ago with a SCSI card for just $150.

I really don't see why you're all happy that they won't be making SCSI drives anymore, it's not like anybody is forcing them upon you...but it is cutting off options for others. And there's way more to SCSI than simply a speed boost (whether that be small or not).

NFS4 · Jan 31, 2001

<< In the other thread you act like someone using a SCSI Plex burner has to run an all SCSI system and so it's good that they are stopping make them. That's total BS, and so is your big price complaint about them. SCSI cards for things like CD-ROM's are cheap (only need a cheapo 20MB card), and the price diff between their IDE and their SCSI drives is pretty small. I got my 8x Plex a year ago with a SCSI card for just $150.

I really don't see why you're all happy that they won't be making SCSI drives anymore, it's not like anybody is forcing them upon you...but it is cutting off options for others. >>

My point in the other thread was that it's no big loss to Plextor b/c BurnProof pretty much eliminates the coastering issue.

And secondly, I have no problem with SCSI...I just feel that it is overkill for most of us users here. And I'm sure that MOST people here would spend the price differential between IDE and SCSI to put towards a better video card or CPU.

thorin · Jan 31, 2001

I prefer IDE over scsi because of the cost differences. If I could afford SCSi I might do it, but with SerialATA right around the corner SCSI will no longer have an edge over IDE.

Benefits of SerialATA:
? Hot Plugability
? Reduced electrical requirements
? No jumpers
? Extremely small cables (check the diagrams the Data cable is smaller then the power cable....think about a day with no ribbon cables to impede air flow, etc...Picture & Article)
? Backwards and future compatability
? Max 10% price premium vs todays drives (likely none)
? First Gen SerialATA drives delivering 150MB/s

Checkout this SerialATA Whitepaper from Quantum/Maxtor

Thorin

Biggs · Jan 31, 2001

Yep, SCSI is most appropriate for corporate use wherein they require large storage and reliability.

KarlHungus · Jan 31, 2001

I had all SCSI in my last computer. I have all IDE in my current computer.

There used to be (~3 years ago) a MAJOR difference between SCSI and IDE when used in a home computer. Now I seriously doubt most users would even notice a difference (then again I haven't gotten my hands on an X15).

Vegito · Jan 31, 2001

Looks like I wont be getting serial ata anytime soon..

from the whitepaper, u need a 5 pin power, 2 ground, meaning, new power supply... but it is nices.. hopefully by end of 2002/2003 it'll be phased in... by then, i hope my fleet of CUSL2 will be outdated...

that case look soooo nice... little cables running around.... so clean...

Angst · Jan 31, 2001

IDE, I don't need to worry about multitasking while burning with my Yamaha 2100...it's pretty hard to deplete the 8mb buffer..

During my summer upgrade, I'm considering going SCSI for OS and using my current IDE drives for MP3/DVD/general storage...hopefully the X15 will drop in price a bit more.

Sohcan · Jan 31, 2001

<< but with SerialATA right around the corner SCSI will no longer have an edge over IDE >>

It's not just a question of the bus interface, but the drive manufacturing as well....Until we see 15,000 rpm IDE/Serial ATA drives with 4ms seek times SCSI will have the advantage. The problem is the stigma that IDE has in the enterprise market, which is solely SCSI...Seagate could slap an IDE interface on the Cheetah X15, but it would cost nearly as much as the SCSI version, and only power users like us would buy it.

Anyway, I have a SCSI CD-R/CD-ROM, because when I bought them three years ago, IDE CD burners sucked. It's still possible to go SCSI on a "budget"...Get the 18GB Cheetah X15 ($400) for your OS and apps, then get a large cheap IDE drive for mass storage, mp3s, games, etc. That way you have uber-fast access times for your OS and apps without completely breaking the bank.

Imaginer · Jan 31, 2001

IDE. It is cheaper and I do not require the performance of SCSI...yet.

PCAddict · Jan 31, 2001

One of my PC's has UATA hard drives, but the CD-ROM, CD-RW, Zip, and DVD are all SCSI. I even have a 1GB SCSI hard drive in there that I use to image CD's on occasion. The benefits of SCSI in this case are obvious...

My other PC is IDE all the way, including the DVD and the CD-RW.

SonicFlux · Jan 31, 2001

I run an all SCSI system (see gaming rig below), and it definitely makes for a smoother computing experience. Whether it's burning CDs, playing Quake, surfing or backing up data, I've enjoyed the quicker response times with SCSI. Yes, it was expensive, but I had some extra cash lying around and was itching to spend it

Now I admit, going from ata66 to U160 scsi wasn't as big a jump as I had hoped. In fact, I was very dissapointed the first two weeks and started thinking I wasted my hard earned jack. But as time went by, I realized that everything was more responsive. And last but not least, I didn't buy SCSI just for speed. I also bought it for reliability. I once had a 3 month old Maxtor IDE drive crap out on me, and I lost some important data. So I wanted to increase my reliability...

StrangeRanger · Jan 31, 2001

I'm all IDE. i made this choice after comparing my bud's rig which is all SCSI to mine. considered what he paid for items, the troubles (honestly on small probs.) he's had and the fact that his set up is barely any faster than mine. and as far as multi-tasking, that's not really an issue. i can do pretty much what ever i want while burning cd's with no problems at all. and with my onboard ata, ide and promise card i have no problems connecting as many drives as i want.
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NFS4 · Jan 31, 2001

<< It's still possible to go SCSI on a "budget"...Get the 18GB Cheetah X15 ($400) for your OS and apps, then get a large cheap IDE drive for mass storage, mp3s, games, etc. That way you have uber-fast access times for your OS and apps without completely breaking the bank. >>

WHAT!! You call $400 "budget" and "cheap" :Q Damn, I must not be from the same planet. I could never justify spending $400 for only 18GB of space, not matter how fast it is.

For $400, I can get a KT133A motherboard, an Athlon 800 (maybe faster than that), and a decent IDE hard drive. You see, that's my whole problem with SCSI. The average user just can't afford that kind of money for storage.

Is SCSI REALLY worth that kind of money?

Imported · Jan 31, 2001

Not worth it for me. I could many things with the leftover money.

Hanpan · Jan 31, 2001

I recently had the choice to buy a p2b-d or a p2b-ds. The p2b-ds was $10.00 more so i went for it. In fact i bought the mobo new for less than what a scsi controller had cost me. AS for drives i curretnly have a small 9 gig scsi drive. Still use ide thouhg. The only reason i like scsi is multiple in/outs. For the most part it is a waste of money but for me going scsi was 10 extra dollars and teh hdd was cheap. I would however not spend 200+ for a decent adapter and another 300+ for a drive. That's silly. I paid less than 200.00 to go to scsi and taht's not too bad i guess.

Dean · Jan 31, 2001

was at one time all scsi...two failed WD enterprise harddrives later i quit scsi , now entirely ide

Zipperhead · Jan 31, 2001

i run all scsi-and always will.for you guys that don't think its much better,you probably had
cheap stuff.scsi is faster,much more responsive,less cpu taxation.

nightowl · Jan 31, 2001

Back when burners were still in the 4x to 6x range and 8x drives were only starting to emerge SCSI was the way to go. I already had a SCSI drive my Jaz drive and SCSI was the only way to go for me. I just don't like the idea of using an IDE burner when you have more than 2 IDE devices. It is a hassle to set up and you have the possibility of buffer under-runs (although that has changed with burn proof) when burning in certain setups. As of right now I would still go with a SCSI drive if I bought a new one. I like the idea of being able to do whatever I want when I am making a CD since I have a SCSI burner and hard drive.

One more thing, I am not so sure of Burn Proof technology, especially when making audio CDs. I heard that it can cause pops and cracks in the music.

This will never be settled! Do you use an all SCSI or all IDE based sytem and why?

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