This timing SUCKS

[ThePresence]

Not too long ago I posted about a job offer I got, but decided against because I'm on the process of starting my own company and want to give it a chance to succeed. Well, yesterday a friend calls me out of the blue about a job working in Manhattan for a company that does SEC filings, etc. Good money, but a long and stressful commute for me (I used to do that same commute when I was in publishing a few years back), and gas/tolls would cost me close to $30 a day, that's without the wear and tear on my car. But the money is nice, it's a great working enviroment, etc. If this would've come by a month and a half ago I would've jumped at it, but now that I'm into this graphics thing, I just don't know. I'm not making much money now, but the potential is there. I'm conflicted. I want to give this graphics thing a legitimate shot, but the guaranteed fat paycheck sounds very nice right about now.

 

[junkerman123]

Can you take the train in?

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: junkerman123
Can you take the train in?

No, there is no NJ transit station where I live. I would have to drive 20-30 minutes to get on a train. It would be a crazy long commute that way.

 

[junkerman123]

Well, aside from all the communte difficulties, this seems to be the classic question: do you want to take the low-risk, guaranteed money way out, or do you want to take a risk and do what you've always wanted. It depends on your personality and what stage of your life you're in. I don't think there's a "right" decision here. I've usually gone the "safe" route, and so have many others, and it has worked out just fine. But of course doing what you love could work out to be even better. You never know.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: junkerman123
Well, aside from all the communte difficulties, this seems to be the classic question: do you want to take the low-risk, guaranteed money way out, or do you want to take a risk and do what you've always wanted. It depends on your personality and what stage of your life you're in. I don't think there's a "right" decision here. I've usually gone the "safe" route, and so have many others, and it has worked out just fine. But of course doing what you love could work out to be even better. You never know.

Yeah, I know. I'm very torn here.

 

[wyvrn]

Well if you are that in demand, the jobs will be there a year from now. So I say build your graphics business for a year, then reevaluate. If you don't do it though, you'll always be asking yourself what-if.

 

[Connoisseur]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: junkerman123
Can you take the train in?

No, there is no NJ transit station where I live. I would have to drive 20-30 minutes to get on a train. It would be a crazy long commute that way.

MOVE. I was in the same position you're in just a week ago. I've been working in NYC for the past year and I was commuting from Bridgewater, NJ. If you don't know that's an almost two hour commute door to door. Drove me insane, especially the days I worked late. AND I couldn't hang out in the city. I finally moved to Jersey City right next to the PATH and I LOVE it. Now I can work late, still make it home in plenty of time and party.

I understand you're trying to get your own business going. Can you work on both at the same time? Might be more stressful but at least you'll be making good money while you're establishing your company.

 

[harrkev]

What is better, to try and fail, or to never try at all?

The answer depends on what you are doing. If you are trying knitting, go for it. If you are trying skydiving, think twice 😉

What it all boils down to is risk. Do you have enough money in the bank to get you by for a few months? If your business fails, how easily could you pick up another job to pay the bills?

 

[Scarpozzi]

How much money would you be making? Because if you ask me, making enough money to lower the risk of your graphics endeavor may make it worth taking the easy money. In other words, put the graphics on hold and stablize. The trend with entrepreneurs is to start in your late 40s and early 50s because you're stable enough to handle the risk. Might be ok to follow that trend unless you see a solid opportunity now.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

To me alot depends on where you are in life. If you are young and single without many commitments or responsibilities it's much easier to take these kind of risks, vs. older, large family to support ect...

Another way to look at it is; What do you have to lose? Worst case schenario if your graphics business fails miserably, how will it effect you? A setback but nothing drastic, go for it. But if failure means total devastation (lose house, property, family) think long and hard

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: wyvrn
Well if you are that in demand, the jobs will be there a year from now. So I say build your graphics business for a year, then reevaluate. If you don't do it though, you'll always be asking yourself what-if.

There's no reason for me to assume that these kinds of jobs will be around if I give up on the graphics thing.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Connoisseur

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: junkerman123
Can you take the train in?

No, there is no NJ transit station where I live. I would have to drive 20-30 minutes to get on a train. It would be a crazy long commute that way.

MOVE. I was in the same position you're in just a week ago. I've been working in NYC for the past year and I was commuting from Bridgewater, NJ. If you don't know that's an almost two hour commute door to door. Drove me insane, especially the days I worked late. AND I couldn't hang out in the city. I finally moved to Jersey City right next to the PATH and I LOVE it. Now I can work late, still make it home in plenty of time and party.

I understand you're trying to get your own business going. Can you work on both at the same time? Might be more stressful but at least you'll be making good money while you're establishing your company.

I like where I live, I don't want to live Jersey City. I would consider moving to the Passaic/Clifton area, but rent/houses are a freaking fortune there.

No, it would not be possible to do both. This job offer involves flying aroundf the country alot, it's much more than a 9-5. I would not be able to do the graphics thing.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: harrkev
What is better, to try and fail, or to never try at all?

The answer depends on what you are doing. If you are trying knitting, go for it. If you are trying skydiving, think twice 😉

What it all boils down to is risk. Do you have enough money in the bank to get you by for a few months? If your business fails, how easily could you pick up another job to pay the bills?

My business is not going fail, unless something really unexpected happens. I already have steady clients and steady work, I'm just not making alot right now. This other job is paying much more than I'm making now. I have no idea what will happen down the road.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
How much money would you be making? Because if you ask me, making enough money to lower the risk of your graphics endeavor may make it worth taking the easy money. In other words, put the graphics on hold and stablize. The trend with entrepreneurs is to start in your late 40s and early 50s because you're stable enough to handle the risk. Might be ok to follow that trend unless you see a solid opportunity now.

There is potential in the graphics thing. Who knows where it can go.
Graphics is what I enjoy, it's what I'm good at. Who knows how long I'll last at the other job?

 

[JS80]

If you're not in need of major cash flow I would recommend building your biznass.

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: harrkev
What is better, to try and fail, or to never try at all?

The answer depends on what you are doing. If you are trying knitting, go for it. If you are trying skydiving, think twice 😉

What it all boils down to is risk. Do you have enough money in the bank to get you by for a few months? If your business fails, how easily could you pick up another job to pay the bills?

My business is not going fail, unless something really unexpected happens. I already have steady clients and steady work, I'm just not making alot right now. This other job is paying much more than I'm making now. I have no idea what will happen down the road.

Well that just about says it for me.

Your business won't fail = you will make loads later :thumbsup:

My dad 12yrs ago worked in a garage and now that garage owner is paying £1million in salarys! I guess at least 15-18yrs and that guys father started the business and his sons took over. Now they are living well with their business.

Stick with your business and it is a bonus you LOVE it also 🙂.

Koing

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: harrkev
What is better, to try and fail, or to never try at all?

The answer depends on what you are doing. If you are trying knitting, go for it. If you are trying skydiving, think twice 😉

What it all boils down to is risk. Do you have enough money in the bank to get you by for a few months? If your business fails, how easily could you pick up another job to pay the bills?

My business is not going fail, unless something really unexpected happens. I already have steady clients and steady work, I'm just not making alot right now. This other job is paying much more than I'm making now. I have no idea what will happen down the road.

Well that just about says it for me.

Your business won't fail = you will make loads later :thumbsup:

My dad 12yrs ago worked in a garage and now that garage owner is paying £1million in salarys! I guess at least 15-18yrs and that guys father started the business and his sons took over. Now they are living well with their business.

Stick with your business and it is a bonus you LOVE it also 🙂.

Koing

Yeah, but there is the possibility that 10 years down the road I'll still be where I'm at now, which would suck really bad. 🙂

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Well that just about says it for me.

Your business won't fail = you will make loads later :thumbsup:

My dad 12yrs ago worked in a garage and now that garage owner is paying £1million in salarys! I guess at least 15-18yrs and that guys father started the business and his sons took over. Now they are living well with their business.

Stick with your business and it is a bonus you LOVE it also 🙂.

Koing

Yeah, but there is the possibility that 10 years down the road I'll still be where I'm at now, which would suck really bad. 🙂[/quote]

£££ isn't everything. I'd take a 20% pay cut for a better job...

See by the 5th year and see how your profits have been going. If it has been flat for 5yrs that isn't very good, more so if your not starting out with a good amount of £££. If you start with a good amount of £££ and your business isn't growing much then that isn't too bad imo, as long as you love what your doing.

Koing

 

[chickadee]

where on earth in Jersey do you live that you dont have a train station near you?

Maybe its just where im from in jersey, but theres a train stop in every god forsaken neighboring town ;x