This should make some of you cringe: Escalades to get bigger engines

RU482

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Escalade to get bigger engine
Cadillac extends high-performance 'V' strategy to big SUV

By Richard Truett
Automotive News / January 26, 2004


---DETROIT - The Cadillac Escalade luxury SUV will muscle into the fast lane with a V-10 or V-12 engine, possibly as early as the 2006 model year.

The move is in keeping with General Motors' plans to create a series of exclusive high-performance cars and SUVs for Cadillac called the V Series. The first of those models, the CTS-V sports sedan, is in showrooms. The CTS-V is powered by a V-8 derived from the engine used in the Chevrolet Corvette.

GM is building a plant in Wixom, Mich., to produce engines for low-volume, high-performance vehicles.

The automaker expects the plant to be building engines by the summer of 2005. That means an engine could become available for the 2006 model year. "Obviously we wouldn't be putting in place a low-volume build center if we didn't choose to have a little fun here," says Tom Stephens, GM vice president in charge of global powertrains. "It's part of our product strategy. We'll need a place to build some of those high-image products."

Those high-image products will carry a higher price tag. The CTS-V sells for $49,300 - about $18,000 more than a base CTS. The Escalade, which is sold with a choice of two V-8s, starts at $52,830, including destination charges.

Engineers are testing on Detroit roads at least four high-performance engines in a fleet of Escalades.

"You will find Cadillacs running around with higher-output V-8s, running around with V-10s (and) V-12s," Stephens says, "and you will find even one variant with even more cylinders."

That other variant is the 16-cylinder engine from the Cadillac Sixteen concept car. GM Powertrain engineers have installed a 16-cylinder engine in a test Escalade. But that engine, rated at 1,000 hp, may be too expensive to produce.

The most likely big displacement engine for the high-performance Escalade is the Northstar-based XV-12, which fits in the same space as the vehicle's current optional 6.0-liter V-8.

That means the Escalade could get a V-12 without extensive reworking of the sheet metal.

The Escalade is scheduled for a redesign in 2007 or 2008. A high-performance engine for 2006 would help keep interest in the current model strong while Cadillac prepares the next version.
 

NutBucket

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Oh boy. Now we're gonna get oversized boxes that are quick. Sounds like a plan considering the average skill of an Esclade driver
rolleye.gif
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Fausto
*shrug* Have fun putting gas in the damn things.

heh heh.

And to the fools who'll fork over about $70k and then try and trade them in 2 years later when they're worth about $30k!
 

RU482

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Originally posted by: Citrix
why should I "Cringe"

I personally am all for stuffing the biggest ass motor you can in every vehicle on the road...The cringe part was for all the "wanna be Prius Drivers" out there
 

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I never liked the Escalade. If I wanted a full-size SUV I would go for the Navigator.
 

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..... Shiatt. V16? They'd be better off with two V8's. one in the front, one in the back. There's plenty enough room in the damn things.

Hopefully those are 16 VERY SMALL CYLINDERS.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
..... Shiatt. V16? They'd be better off with two V8's. one in the front, one in the back. There's plenty enough room in the damn things.

Hopefully those are 16 VERY SMALL CYLINDERS.
No, each is almost a liter in displacement. And it doesn't take a lot of thinking to see that they should be able to extract a lot more power from it.
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
..... Shiatt. V16? They'd be better off with two V8's. one in the front, one in the back. There's plenty enough room in the damn things.

Hopefully those are 16 VERY SMALL CYLINDERS.
No, each is almost a liter in displacement. And it doesn't take a lot of thinking to see that they should be able to extract a lot more power from it.

Is GM stupid?
Don't put that ownage in an SUV.

Take Dodge's Hemi, Dodge's Cummins, and Ford's Powerstroke and shove them up their collective behinds by extending the Silverado and Sierra from 3500 to 5500 (4500 = V12, 5500=V16)
 

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
..... Shiatt. V16? They'd be better off with two V8's. one in the front, one in the back. There's plenty enough room in the damn things.

Hopefully those are 16 VERY SMALL CYLINDERS.
No, each is almost a liter in displacement. And it doesn't take a lot of thinking to see that they should be able to extract a lot more power from it.

Is GM stupid?
Don't put that ownage in an SUV.

Take Dodge's Hemi, Dodge's Cummins, and Ford's Powerstroke and shove them up their collective behinds by extending the Silverado and Sierra from 3500 to 5500 (4500 = V12, 5500=V16)
The Duramax in 2005 is talked to be around 600lbs of torque :D

<---- i sure hope they come through ;)

 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Is GM stupid?
Don't put that ownage in an SUV.

Take Dodge's Hemi, Dodge's Cummins, and Ford's Powerstroke and shove them up their collective behinds by extending the Silverado and Sierra from 3500 to 5500 (4500 = V12, 5500=V16)
The Duramax in 2005 is talked to be around 600lbs of torque :D

<---- i sure hope they come through ;)

Your keyboard doesn't ;)
 

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Originally posted by: Fausto
*shrug* Have fun putting gas in the damn things.

It will be big enough to pull your own tanker behind it.

 
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I guess they need more torque to drive those Dub-Eights y0 ... or whatever disgustingly oversized wheels are "hip" these days. :p

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RU482

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Originally posted by: LAUST
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
..... Shiatt. V16? They'd be better off with two V8's. one in the front, one in the back. There's plenty enough room in the damn things.

Hopefully those are 16 VERY SMALL CYLINDERS.
No, each is almost a liter in displacement. And it doesn't take a lot of thinking to see that they should be able to extract a lot more power from it.

Is GM stupid?
Don't put that ownage in an SUV.

Take Dodge's Hemi, Dodge's Cummins, and Ford's Powerstroke and shove them up their collective behinds by extending the Silverado and Sierra from 3500 to 5500 (4500 = V12, 5500=V16)
The Duramax in 2005 is talked to be around 600lbs of torque :D

<---- i sure hope they come through ;)

Hehe, I used to work for Allison Transmission...I remember hearing something like that back at Christmas 01. They had a roadmap for basically the rest of the decade, IIRC, but that was the big item I remember
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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*sigh*

Most of the people driving escalades now probably won't be able to handle cars like that... they're gonna be filling gas so quick that after a certain amount of time, they could have just gotten a true sports and not a brick with big wheels and shiny aluminum foil around them...
 
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Originally posted by: AgaBooga
*sigh*

Most of the people driving escalades now probably won't be able to handle cars like that... they're gonna be filling gas so quick that after a certain amount of time, they could have just gotten a true sports and not a brick with big wheels and shiny aluminum foil around them...

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Every time I buy another car
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And every time I get a little money
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- M4H