This reminds me why I bought a 5930K

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Bought a new Android media player a while back, and long story short, 1:1 DVD rips with a VIDEO_TS folder won't play. So I crank up handbrake and rip it to x264 in under 15min for a near 2hr film @ High Profile L4.1 with decombing and CRF of 19. I partially cheated and used audio pass-thru but mmmmm, hexa core power.

A change of pace from a typical VirtualLarry thread, at least. :sneaky:

And this just confirms for all my desktops I won't drop below a quad, preferably i7, at the very minimum. That power on tap.
 

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Moral of the story? If you're going to buy a cheap under-$100 Android media player "TV box", make sure to buy a 5930X PC along with it, to power it so you can actually watch movies... :)
 

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Moral of the story? If you're going to buy a cheap under-$100 Android media player "TV box", make sure to buy a 5930X PC along with it, to power it so you can actually watch movies... :)

Everything else plays, its just 29.970 interlaced old arse DVDs don't. Even fancy HEVC works smoother. Its actually rather ironic. Still if I was encoding this on one your boxes it still wouldn't be done. :D
 

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I dont get it. Buy i3, download that movie from net, press play, watch the movie. Cheap fast and easy. You suggest that everyone should buy semi-truck for daily work commute because they might be moving one day and need the extra cargo space.
 

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I dont get it. Buy i3, download that movie from net, press play, watch the movie. Cheap fast and easy. You suggest that everyone should buy semi-truck for daily work commute because they might be moving one day and need the extra cargo space.

A) An i3 is a useless compromise, step down or step up instead

B) Not every "movie" you'll find online is in crappy old XviD that requires no fiddling

C) I'm not suggesting anything. For me I won't compromise a few hundred for a box you'll use every day.
 

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Probably just some HDCP copy-protection script in the DVD that got removed when ripping to H.264.
Can someone rip a similar-length DVD movie in the same VIDEO_TS format, to H.264, using HandBrake and QuickSync on an i3 CPU, for a comparison?
 
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Bought a new Android media player a while back, and long story short, 1:1 DVD rips with a VIDEO_TS folder won't play. So I crank up handbrake and rip it to x264 in under 15min for a near 2hr film @ High Profile L4.1 with decombing and CRF of 19. I partially cheated and used audio pass-thru but mmmmm, hexa core power.

A change of pace from a typical VirtualLarry thread, at least. :sneaky:

And this just confirms for all my desktops I won't drop below a quad, preferably i7, at the very minimum. That power on tap.

wow, you talk like 6cores are a lot for you...

100% gamer spotted
 

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I'm no expert on this stuff at all, but any Maxwell or newer Nvidia card and the right software seems to be insanely fast vs any cpu. I think it beats quicksync too.

Go here and look at the results in the last table: http://www.dvdfab.cn/lightning-shrink.htm

A GTX 750 (not even Ti) ripped a Blu-ray to MP4 in under 20 minutes. An i5-2400, just using the cpu, took 142 minutes. Even if a 5930k is 3 times faster than this it would still be over double the time of the GTX 750.
 

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I typically archive my blu-ray rips onto a hard drive, and if I need something quicly that can play on a player, I bust out Handbrake. The i5 cores are not much slower than a much lesser quality Quicksync transcode. If I'm doing anything else that requires a lot of cpu though such as gaming, I'm not ashamed to go Quicksync,

Quicksync on my Intel Atom tablet is surprisingly quick. I don't imagine I'd get much use of it though, maybe if I'm on vacation and really needed to transcode a DVD from an external drive.
 

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Meanwhile, people with multicore Xeon rigs are like "LOL, n00bs"... :p
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2335636

you mean like this guy?

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:D
 

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I typically archive my blu-ray rips onto a hard drive, and if I need something quicly that can play on a player, I bust out Handbrake. The i5 cores are not much slower than a much lesser quality Quicksync transcode. If I'm doing anything else that requires a lot of cpu though such as gaming, I'm not ashamed to go Quicksync,

Quicksync on my Intel Atom tablet is surprisingly quick. I don't imagine I'd get much use of it though, maybe if I'm on vacation and really needed to transcode a DVD from an external drive.

Quicksync is like 10-15x faster than an i5. I'd consider that much slower.

As far as encoding, I started getting back into aerial video's with my Phantom 3 and defiantly makes full use of my 3770k. A hex core would be nice, but I'm making due for now. I personally won't go hex core until it's on Intel's mainstream line. I use QuickSync often enough that I wouldn't want to be without it.
 

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Everything else plays, its just 29.970 interlaced old arse DVDs don't. Even fancy HEVC works smoother. Its actually rather ironic. Still if I was encoding this on one your boxes it still wouldn't be done. :D

It probably wouldn't even be done yet if you were using all his boxes at once to encode it. ;)
 

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Quicksync is like 10-15x faster than an i5. I'd consider that much slower.

As far as encoding, I started getting back into aerial video's with my Phantom 3 and defiantly makes full use of my 3770k. A hex core would be nice, but I'm making due for now. I personally won't go hex core until it's on Intel's mainstream line. I use QuickSync often enough that I wouldn't want to be without it.
For comparable quality, average framerate in Handbrake seems to be around 20%-50% higher, albeit, at much higher bitrate.
 

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Everything else plays, its just 29.970 interlaced old arse DVDs don't. Even fancy HEVC works smoother. Its actually rather ironic. Still if I was encoding this on one your boxes it still wouldn't be done. :D

I'm not saying 100% that the i3 would be quicker, but a comparison might be useful.


QuickSync is way faster also than a hexa-core. The issue might be lower quality, I've never actually had the chance to compare but I doubt it matters that much. The point is you don't need a hexa-core if you need to quickly rip something. For that case QuickSync is good-enough and much faster, probably even on the Atom. So OP made a pretty bad case for his 5930k.
 

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QuickSync is way faster also than a hexa-core. The issue might be lower quality, I've never actually had the chance to compare but I doubt it matters that much. The point is you don't need a hexa-core if you need to quickly rip something. For that case QuickSync is good-enough and much faster, probably even on the Atom. So OP made a pretty bad case for his 5930k.
Due to only having 4 EUs, Quick Sync on an Atom (Bay Trail) is pretty slow.
 

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I can imagine. I didn't even realize that it was even supported on Bay Trail Atom CPUs.

Even the -T family? (Z3735F,G)?
The Z3735F seems to support it without issue. Much faster than using it's CPU cores. Great if transcoding DVDs on a cheap, fanless device were my pastime. :D
 

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QuickSync is way faster also than a hexa-core. The issue might be lower quality, I've never actually had the chance to compare but I doubt it matters that much. The point is you don't need a hexa-core if you need to quickly rip something. For that case QuickSync is good-enough and much faster, probably even on the Atom. So OP made a pretty bad case for his 5930k.

110min film in just under 15min? Using the "medium" preset | High Profile @ L4.1 in Handbrake and aiming for half decent quality? Quicksync won't match that quality AND speed.
 

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do we lose video or sound quality if we stream it wireless to our TV's using whatever modern methods, like chromecast+plex, apple products+apple tv, etc?

just wondering if i should keep my laptop with me or have it sitting next to the tv, to play videos or music.