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It it Bush's fault or Obama's fault?

  • It's Bush's fault.

  • It's Obama's fault.

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HappyPuppy

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The libs say it's Bush's fault and the pugs say it's Obama's fault. Just vote and let's get it over with
 
Lemon law

Lemon law

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IronWing said:
We should dig up Reagan and hang him.
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No, it lacks the prevailing style sniff test standard set by Oliver Cromwell.

1. We must wait at least a century to let the corpse properly age and ripen.

2. Why just limit the rage to just hanging, when the proper way is draw and quarter the corpse and then thereafter burn the remains to ashes. Leave nothing undone that will require future generations to complete.

Silly IronWing, you have no understanding of doing things with style and panache. Learn from history, learn from your betters, Oliver had it right, in asking, is your head round or square?
 
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HappyPuppy

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Bush and Obama are literal pikers compared to the toilet paper asswipes JFK and LBJ. They were absolute masters of killing our young men and women, not to mention starting the whole world hating the U.S. of A.

My favorite President post Eisenhower is Nixon. He was a liar and a crook, which all Presidents are, but he did the will of the nation and got us out of that shithole.

:)
 
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Lemon law

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HappyPuppy said:
Bush and Obama are literal pikers compared to the toilet paper asswipes JFK and LBJ. They were absolute masters of killing our young men and women, not to mention starting the whole world hating the U.S. of A.

My favorite President post Eisenhower is Nixon. He was a liar and a crook, which all Presidents are, but he did the will of the nation and got us out of that shithole.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------No, Happy puppy, my favorite President is GWB, partly because he was a liar and crook of the first order, but the real GWB&Cheney virtue is and remains in their economy plan killing ratio. Just look at Iraq, only 4400 or so American troops killed, in Afghanistan we are just over the 1000 Americans killed mark. But on the other side of the ledger, looks how much human misery we bought on the cheap, maybe a million Iraqis killed and another 2 million exiled, lots of bonus Afghan civilians killed and all the anarchy both Afghanistan and Pakistan can eat. Bonus points for Cheney helping start the rape of Lebanon. Already that puts GWB&co well ahead of Pol Pot and Pinochet, both empowered by Nixon, but maybe GWB may still fall a little behind Hitler and Stalin as the recent killing and human misery champs in world history.

But since the final legacies of Iraq and Afghanistan are still up in the air, I still hold out some hope that GWB&co can go down in history as even greater mass murders than Hitler and Stalin.
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FuzzyBee

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Obama could've pulled the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan the day he was sworn in. Guess you have to have those numbers count in his column, ol' Lemon.
 
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WHAMPOM

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Bush 'cause Obama is only trying to get "Mission Accomplished" done. By the way, I would call Bill Clinton the most succesful Republican President of the Twentieth Century.
 
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Lemon law

Lifer
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FuzzyBee said:
Obama could've pulled the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan the day he was sworn in. Guess you have to have those numbers count in his column, ol' Lemon.
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I will grant your point fuzzybee, just don't assume I am thrilled with Obama either.
 
IGBT

IGBT

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the ball is in "the obama's" court. it's all his. the more he points the finger the more personal weakness he admits.
 
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PeshakJang

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Lemon law said:
I still hold out some hope that GWB&co can go down in history as even greater mass murders than Hitler and Stalin.
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Saying something like that does nothing but detract from the people who actually were mass murderers. I never thought I would meet somebody who seriously believed a statement like this... you are a terrible person.
 
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Lemon law

Lifer
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Skitzer said:
It's the fault of whoever is in charge right now.
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That one is new on me. I have heard tell that all Jews are doomed to everlasting hell fire because of their ancestor's role as Christ Killers, we daily hear that all Palestinian people are inherently violent and incapable of redemption, we all know all Muslims are violent because of their religion, and why should I keep reciting all those racial stereotypes, when I might deprive others from including ALL their favorite racial stereotypes. So in that regard I will leave three blank lines in this paragraph so others can include theirs.
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What I never heard is that the mistakes of any previous leaders become the mistakes of all future leaders. Which is the same as saying that all human are incapable of learning even if they specifically reverse a policy of a predecessor. But what a wonderful idea you have, I will seek immediate employment as an investment counselor, steal all my clients money, then when the firm that hired me fires me, and presses criminal charge, all I have to do is wait for them to hire a honest investment counselor to replace me, and then I can say don't jail me, jail my replacement.
 
Red Dawn

Red Dawn

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Obama's a bigger disappointment, at least to me. I never expected much from Bush seeing who he was, him being from Texas and also being a Republican.There's no arguing that he left the country in a huge mess but I thought that Obama would be able to do something to fix it. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to be up to the job. Maybe there isn't anybody out there that is.
 
waggy

waggy

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Red Dawn said:
Obama's a bigger disappointment, at least to me. I never expected much from Bush seeing who he was, him being from Texas and also being a Republican.There's no arguing that he left the country in a huge mess but I thought that Obama would be able to do something to fix it. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to be up to the job. Maybe there isn't anybody out there that is.
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exactly how i feel.
 
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