this past year, I have had zero opportunity to use my Affordable Health Care

[Jaskalas]

2018
BC/BS
$1547/mo
$14K deductible.

And that is how Democrats lost elections since 2010. They "fixed" it. They named it "affordable".
Trump is the crowning achievement of the ACA.

Hopefully someday the damage can begin to be undone.

 

[ch33zw1z]

it would be near sighted to hang it all on the ACA. Obama is a black Muslim from kenya mexicans steal jobs while they rape and pillage, the list goes on. Trump is the result of willful ignorance, fear, and hate.

 

[Fern]

Throwing billions more at the ACA? Is that worse than throwing billions at corporations and high earning individuals with massive tax breaks?

Hmm...I bet that's a tough one for you, money for your average citizens to stay alive and healthy or letting the rich get richer.

I know where your butter comes from so I won't ask you to embarrass yourself.

Not sure why you're interested in what I would prefer. Doesn't matter. I just don't see this Congress appropriating that kind of money for the ACA. One must wonder why the Dems didn't do it when they held Congress and passed the ACA.

Fern

 

[ivwshane]

Not sure why you're interested in what I would prefer. Doesn't matter. I just don't see this Congress appropriating that kind of money for the ACA. One must wonder why the Dems didn't do it when they held Congress and passed the ACA.

Fern

Hmm...I wonder what the reason was...

 

[shortylickens]

2018
BC/BS
$1547/mo
$14K deductible.

GOOD GRAVY!

 

[Jaskalas]

Yeah... at some point the pressure will be so great... and Republicans failing so hard to solve anything, people will be crawling back begging Democrats for single payer. We at least have to be willing to say yes and push for, to champion the cause of the people, when the time comes. (now)

 

[ch33zw1z]

I sure as fuckballs didnt vote for Donald. And I didnt vote for the Republican senators and representatives.

Every state is getting fucked with private insurance cuz most of the bullshit in the ACA applies to the nation, not individual states.

my post was not directed at you specifically.

not every state is getting fucked as hard as others.

this is all part of MAGA, you should feel proud to be part of it.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Yeah... at some point the pressure will be so great... and Republicans failing so hard to solve anything, people will be crawling back begging Democrats for single payer. We at least have to be willing to say yes and push for, to champion the cause of the people, when the time comes. (now)

im down, the catch is people desiring U.S.A healthcare need to stop swinging confederate flags around. just stick to the white flag of surrender.

 

[highland145]

it would be near sighted to hang it all on the ACA. Obama is a black Muslim from kenya mexicans steal jobs while they rape and pillage, the list goes on. Trump is the result of willful ignorance, fear, and hate.

For many, I think he's the results of the "right of center" hating the candidates/elected on the right. The GOP does not stand up for/represent conservatism. Won't vote left because of ideology.

 

[ch33zw1z]

For many, I think he's the results of the "right of center" hating the candidates/elected on the right. The GOP does not stand up for/represent conservatism. Won't vote left because of ideology.

Literally, their loss, and the rest of us get to go down with it.

 

[highland145]

Literally, their loss, and the rest of us get to go down with it.

The predictions here, and I agree, the GOP won't get shit done and will get the boot on the next cycle.

Back to the election, the GOP had Cruz, Rubio and Bush 3. Ugh, what a trifecta shit sammich.

 

[bradly1101]

The predictions here, and I agree, the GOP won't get shit done and will get the boot on the next cycle.

If we can get lazy-ass dems out to vote. Internet voting would have prevented all of this (IMO). In that universe Bernie would be prez with a dem congress. The left has the numbers, just not the will. It didn't help that Hillary was winning all the pre-election polls; too many thought, "She'll win, I don't have to bother to vote." Also the damn media was playing up all the tabloid aspects of the campaign, not policy. SAD!

 

[ch33zw1z]

I still think elections should be national holiday. If we treated it with half the reverence of say, Christmas, imagine the turn out.

 

[highland145]

I still think elections should be national holiday. If we treated it with half the reverence of say, Christmas, imagine the turn out.

Or Halloween. Send in the Clowns.

 

[Svnla]

2018
BC/BS
$1547/mo
$14K deductible.

Self employed, eh? Need to work a lot harder to afford your "affordable" health care. Such as this couple and a lot (over 5 million) of other folks like them.

White privilege.

For a bronze-level plan with a health savings account, Melquist says, "we pay $15,000 a year [in premiums] and the first $6,550 [for health care expenses] for each of us comes out of our pocket. So basically you could be looking at $30,000 out of pocket before anything gets covered."

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-...le-who-buy-health-insurance-without-subsidies

Take Irene Solesky of Towson, Maryland. A mortgage underwriter, Solesky and her husband earn too much to receive a subsidy. So next year, they will have to pay $1,351 a month for a CareFirst Bronze plan for themselves and their two sons. On top of that, they face a $13,100 family deductible.

"It's a catastrophic policy as far as I'm concerned," said Solesky, 55, noting her Obamacare policy costs twice as much as her mortgage. "Medical insurance was meant to keep medical expenses from driving you in financial ruin, not for the medical insurance to drive you in financial ruin."

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/04/news/economy/obamacare-affordable/index.html

 

[Fenixgoon]

Yeah... at some point the pressure will be so great... and Republicans failing so hard to solve anything, people will be crawling back begging Democrats for single payer. We at least have to be willing to say yes and push for, to champion the cause of the people, when the time comes. (now)

this is the thing i don't get. our current system clearly does not work in the long run. what's so bad about trying something else?

it's crazy to think that most american families are 1 bad day away from financial ruin, but that's the reality.

 

[ivwshane]

this is the thing i don't get. our current system clearly does not work in the long run. what's so bad about trying something else?

it's crazy to think that most american families are 1 bad day away from financial ruin, but that's the reality.

If Mexico can do it as recently as 2013, I think the US can do it too.

 

[highland145]

Self employed, eh? Need to work a lot harder to afford your "affordable" health care. Such as this couple and a lot (over 5 million) of other folks like them.

White privilege.




http://www.npr.org/sections/health-...le-who-buy-health-insurance-without-subsidies




http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/04/news/economy/obamacare-affordable/index.html

Check.

 

[shortylickens]

Healthcare.gov is down. As in: you cannot log in and do anything.

On an unrelated note: The open enrollment is MUCH shorter this year.

So, yeah, theres that.

 

[theeedude]

Trump is trying to block people from signing up for health care. Shorter enrollment period, plus they are shutting it down every saturday night for "maintenance."
Basically acts of sabotage. Something for "both siders" to think about.

 

[Geekbabe]

I earn around 45K a year, my employer provided PPO plan costs me 10K a year plus. I live in Boston, rents are high here so we eat a lot of ground turkey to afford these costs.

I am grateful for ACA, I have been fighting cancer for close to three years. Provisions of the ACA mean there is no yearly cap on my care, no lifetime limits that would render me uninsurable.

Living with cancer is hard, having nightmares about being made uninsurable is almost enough to drive a person over the edge

 

[JEDI]

I earn around 45K a year, my employer provided PPO plan costs me 10K a year plus. I live in Boston, rents are high here so we eat a lot of ground turkey to afford these costs.

I am grateful for ACA, I have been fighting cancer for close to three years. Provisions of the ACA mean there is no yearly cap on my care, no lifetime limits that would render me uninsurable.

Living with cancer is hard, having nightmares about being made uninsurable is almost enough to drive a person over the edge

my company got around the no-caps for insurance by putting in this clause:
pays normally till $1M in lifetime payments.
between $1M-$5M in payments, pays 50%. so the patient is responsible for the other 50%.
above $5M, only pays 20%.

no idea how they can do that since ACA says there's a max out of pocket?

 

[JEDI]

I dont hate Barack. But his health plan did not help me at all. My monthly payments quadrupled. My insurance covered absolutely nothing.

It didnt work at most of my doctors. It worked at one place, except the insurance didnt cover the particular procedure I got. I only paid with cash or check this last year. The mandatory insurance was a complete money pit.

I dont hate Barack. Even though he ripped me off for 3060 dollars and put me at risk for going bankrupt if I had ever needed any real hospital care this last year.

Also, I am sure The Donald wont do shit to help me next year. In fact he spends too much time in Virginia and I'd like him to stop it. Somebody in Maryland please sell this guy a golf course. Please.

when I was unemployed for a year, I was on the silver plan with like $150 deductible and $5 co-pays @$50/month because I was getting max subsidies since income = $0.

sounds like it's not worth it to have a job with crappy insurance.
be unemployed or get a job with good insurance?

highland145 said: ↑
2018
BC/BS
$1547/mo
$14K deductible.

$18k/yr is about what a family plan costs at my company when you add up the company and employee portions of the premiums.
but the deductible is $125/person.

 

[EXman]

If the insurance lobby had allowed the "public option" (that Mr. Obama campaigned on, but later claimed he didn't) things might be different. Until universal healthcare is available (if ever) profit will rule your wallet.

And if universal healthcare comes here my Canadian friends will stop coming to the U.S. for important diagnostics and treatments that they have to wait forever to get in their country.

 

[Meghan54]

2018
BC/BS
$1547/mo
$14K deductible.

Just curious.....you purchasing as an individual/family or through your business?