- Aug 9, 2000
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So, we just hired this former intern to be a new full timer. Looks like he changed his attitude as soon as he got the full time status.
He's not in my group, but I am hearing stores about how he refuses to do "bitch work". He describes "bitch work" as cad, writing specifications, and doing excel work". The cad part is understandable....but the writing specifications and excel work? I mean, this whole industry is based on writing specification to contractors and he feels he should not do it because he has "served his time as an entry level person". Instead, he gives to the administrative people hand written scribble to type up. Lo and behold, the admin has to do it over 5 times because "they never get the engineering language right". Well, gee, maybe it's because they are not engineers? The fact that admins bill the client at a lower rate is a moot point when it takes them triple the time.
As for the excel work, yeah, good luck telling the admin to make a one time sheet to for budgets. You think they have a clue on how to budget a project? To him, it's "mind numbing data entry". News flash, creating an excel spreadsheet for the client to show what costs are associated to what is not data entry.
Seriously, if you do not write your specifications or do data entry for your budgets, WTF do you do all day? You do not do cad and I seriously doubt it takes you 40 hours a week to do "calculations". In my group, everyone, including the project managers, do specifications. We only give it to the admins if we can't get the formatting right or if we are just plain swamped.
Really, to the new guy, wise up. An internship does not serve your experience as an entry level engineer. Do the grunt work like all other engineers had to do when they got out of college. I have to work with on my next project. I am not looking forward to it.
/rant
He's not in my group, but I am hearing stores about how he refuses to do "bitch work". He describes "bitch work" as cad, writing specifications, and doing excel work". The cad part is understandable....but the writing specifications and excel work? I mean, this whole industry is based on writing specification to contractors and he feels he should not do it because he has "served his time as an entry level person". Instead, he gives to the administrative people hand written scribble to type up. Lo and behold, the admin has to do it over 5 times because "they never get the engineering language right". Well, gee, maybe it's because they are not engineers? The fact that admins bill the client at a lower rate is a moot point when it takes them triple the time.
As for the excel work, yeah, good luck telling the admin to make a one time sheet to for budgets. You think they have a clue on how to budget a project? To him, it's "mind numbing data entry". News flash, creating an excel spreadsheet for the client to show what costs are associated to what is not data entry.
Seriously, if you do not write your specifications or do data entry for your budgets, WTF do you do all day? You do not do cad and I seriously doubt it takes you 40 hours a week to do "calculations". In my group, everyone, including the project managers, do specifications. We only give it to the admins if we can't get the formatting right or if we are just plain swamped.
Really, to the new guy, wise up. An internship does not serve your experience as an entry level engineer. Do the grunt work like all other engineers had to do when they got out of college. I have to work with on my next project. I am not looking forward to it.
/rant
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