This Mostly White City Wants To Leave Its Mostly Black School District

[Jhhnn]

Of course, those evil rethuglicans that run Birmingham are to blame lol

Heh. The people, the jobs & the tax base moved out to the 'burbs, leaving behind only those too poor to follow along.

The population inside Birmingham's city limits has fallen over the past few decades, due in large part to "white flight" from the city to the surrounding suburbs. The city's formerly most populous ethnic group, non-Hispanic white,[12] has declined from 57.4 percent in 1970 to 21.1 percent in 2010.[13] From 340,887 in 1960, the population had decreased to 242,820 in 2000, a loss of about 29 percent. By 2010, Birmingham's population was down to 212,237, its lowest since the mid-1920s. That same period saw a corresponding rise in the populations of the suburban communities of Hoover, Vestavia Hills, Alabaster, and Gardendale, none of which were incorporated as municipalities until after 1950.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham,_Alabama

Go ahead, blame the victims. It's a very popular sentiment in some circles.

 

[LevelSea]

Heh. The people, the jobs & the tax base moved out to the 'burbs, leaving behind only those too poor to follow along.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham,_Alabama

Go ahead, blame the victims. It's a very popular sentiment in some circles.

That's the ticket. We'll just not allow to people to move! And if they ever move back, we'll call it gentrification and blame them for that too.

 

[Zaap]

Go ahead, blame the victims. It's a very popular sentiment in some circles.

Its telling how you lefttwits are always the victims of other people's freedoms. In this case the horrible crime of *gasp!* moving.

Also telling how in leftloon-world only one group based entirely on race is capable of providing jobs and a tax base... white southerners!

In the very next thread you'll be equating that EXACT demographic as uneducated toothless savages deserving to all drop dead...

...in this thread you whine at them for victimizing your fellow Dims for daring to move somewhere and not be your saviors.

Keep on burning it at both ends!

 

[Jhhnn]

That's the ticket. We'll just not allow to people to move! And if they ever move back, we'll call it gentrification and blame them for that too.

I suggested no such thing. I merely point out the results & the mechanisms involved.

Meanwhile, all you poor people better pay the rent. Your rich suburban landlord needs the money.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Heh. The people, the jobs & the tax base moved out to the 'burbs, leaving behind only those too poor to follow along.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham,_Alabama

Go ahead, blame the victims. It's a very popular sentiment in some circles.

Don't you live in Denver? What makes your state any different, where whitey moved to Aurora and gets their own school district separate from them Mexicans? Congrats, you (and many other liberal school districts) beat Alabama to the punch, hope you're happy.

 

[Jhhnn]

Its telling how you lefttwits are always the victims of other people's freedoms. In this case the horrible crime of *gasp!* moving.

Also telling how in leftloon-world only one group based entirely on race is capable of providing jobs and a tax base... white southerners!

In the very next thread you'll be equating that EXACT demographic as uneducated toothless savages deserving to all drop dead...

...in this thread you whine at them for victimizing your fellow Dims for daring to move somewhere and not be your saviors.

Keep on burning it at both ends!

It's called Capitalism, son. Poor people don't have capital. Everybody knows this.

 

[Jhhnn]

Don't you live in Denver? What makes your state any different, where whitey moved to Aurora and gets their own school district separate from them Mexicans? Congrats, you (and many other liberal school districts) beat Alabama to the punch, hope you're happy.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora,_Colorado#Demographics

 

[Zaap]

It's called Capitalism, son. Poor people don't have capital. Everybody knows this.

The median income in Gardendale is $60k territory. HOW DARE those moneybags, all 13,000 of them, vote to use their own raised property taxes for their own schools and not support those of Birmingham ( all 200,000+ of them) with 30k territory median.

When will a minority of southern whites realize that leftist numbskulls call on them to drop dead from one side of their mouths, but before that to fund their fellow Dims cradle to grave from the other.

 

[glenn1]

It's just a way for affluent suburbanites to cheap out on urban folks who pay the rent out to the richest 'burbs every month, whose neighborhoods are blighted by neglect & wealth extraction.

I'll take my "GMFY" over your seeing suburbanites as nothing but a source of funds to give to city folks.

 

[Zaap]

Every other thread these days, those 'city folks' are the ONLY people who matter, all those 'empty county people' who the fuck cares about them...?


... except when it comes to whining for money.

 

[Jhhnn]

Every other thread these days, those 'city folks' are the ONLY people who matter, all those 'empty county people' who the fuck cares about them...?


... except when it comes to whining for money.

Please. You don't have to live in the city to qualify for benefits & rural states are often the beneficiaries of blue state largess via federal tax transfers. MS, for example, is largely rural & 40% of the state budget came from federal funds last time I checked. They got a lot more back than they put in, as well.

It's weird how the people most opposed to that are MS residents. Maybe they don't know the whole story, huh?

 

[Jhhnn]

I'll take my "GMFY" over your seeing suburbanites as nothing but a source of funds to give to city folks.

Of course you will. I never said any different. You'll also characterize it in a way that justifies your own greed.

 

[Zaap]

Please. You don't have to live in the city to qualify for benefits & rural states are often the beneficiaries of blue state largess via federal tax transfers. MS, for example, is largely rural & 40% of the state budget came from federal funds last time I checked. They got a lot more back than they put in, as well.

It's weird how the people most opposed to that are MS residents. Maybe they don't know the whole story, huh?

So why are you whining in this case about what one set of welfare recipients does with its money vs. another? The people 'most against that' must be the ones you were just whining at about Capitalism and tax-base and jobs... right??

Or could it be you're just burning it at both ends again, flush?

 

[Jhhnn]

So why are you whining in this case about what one set of welfare recipients does with its money vs. another? The people 'most against that' must be the ones you were just whining at about Capitalism and tax-base and jobs... right??

Or could it be you're just burning it at both ends again, flush?

If that's supposed to make sense I can't find it.

 

[Sonikku]

Oh crap, I LIVE in Jefferson County.

Oh wait, Alabama. Never mind! Whew.

 

[Zaap]

If that's supposed to make sense I can't find it.

In other words, your whole 'argument' makes no sense! Of course you can't follow your own bullshit. That, and you're dumb as a box of rocks. You were just ranting on not a few posts ago about boo hoo, victims, people moving out "the jobs, the tax base" etc...

Then a few posts later all those people are "the most opposed" to federal taxes they supposedly recieve hypocritcally....

...WAIT, what happened to WAHH Capitalism and victims and jobs and tax base? You're whining at a bunch of hypocritcal welfare recipents aren't you?

 

[Jhhnn]

In other words, your whole 'argument' makes no sense! Of course you can't follow your own bullshit. That, and you're dumb as a box of rocks. You were just ranting on not a few posts ago about boo hoo, victims, people moving out "the jobs, the tax base" etc...

Then a few posts later all those people are "the most opposed" to federal taxes they supposedly recieve hypocritcally....

...WAIT, what happened to WAHH Capitalism and victims and jobs and tax base? You're whining at a bunch of hypocritcal welfare recipents aren't you?

They are whining hypocritically about taking care of their own when the rest of the country is taking care of them, are they not? Or do they not understand what's happening?

 

[Jaskalas]

We have essentially re-segregated ourselves.

White flight started the day after the civil rights act. Many cities just outside the major cities were founded soon after.
This is merely a continuation of a process that has been continual across the nation.
Do not forget that northern states have PLENTY of ethnically mono locations.

It is human nature to create ethnic enclaves. In other words segregate. The question is what do we do about it?

 

[Paladin3]

People work hard, get an education, earn money and move to a better area for a better life, less crime and better schools and better opportunities for their children. Isn't this the American Dream in it's best and fairest form? Calling it a violation of civil rights (racism) because some choose to not put in the work is ludicrous.

I don't care what life circumstances you were gifted with at birth, do or do not...there is no try. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s Dream was for his children to live in a world where they were judged by the content of their character (actions) and not the color of their skin. Now the very people he worked and died for sue for the exact opposite.

 

[Zaap]

They are whining hypocritically about taking care of their own when the rest of the country is taking care of them, are they not? Or do they not understand what's happening?

So If the rest of the country is "taking care of them" then why are you whining about rich capitalists, and "the jobs & the tax base"? According to your bullshit, the "tax base" is in the north, so it's up to them to fund Birmingham, not southerners. Why would you expect people being taken care of by someone else to then take care of the people of Birmingham?

You're burning it at both ends, flush, as usual.

 

[agent00f]

The ghetto city kids are going down the crapper no matter what. The question you need to ask yourself is whether suburban kids should get lashed to those city kids and dragged down to the bottom with them. Because equally terrible education is more important than allowing some to have an unequally excellent education.

Forcing rich white kids into ghetto schools is the easiest way for their parents' interests to align with fixing schools nationally. OTOH there's plenty of people, esp those competing for that welfare, who don't believe it's a problem that needs fixing.

So If the rest of the country is "taking care of them" then why are you whining about rich capitalists, and "the jobs & the tax base"? According to your bullshit, the "tax base" is in the north, so it's up to them to fund Birmingham, not southerners. Why would you expect people being taken care of by someone else to then take care of the people of Birmingham?

You're burning it at both ends, flush, as usual.

Personally, all else equal I prefer welfare recipients who don't use the money to kill brownies and vote for ethnofascists. Therefore, the clear best solution is to divert all rural "defense" spending to underperforming (ie minority) schools/communities. It's not hard to see why your sort would be all against that, though.

 

[Zaap]

^ I have a strong suspicion which 'mod' you are.

That or which one is your bud, equally racist, and by never calling you out shows tacit approval of your racist bullshit.

Which is it?

 

[agent00f]

^ I have a strong suspicion which 'mod' you are.

I'm sure you're right. Be real insistent and don't give up on this easily.

 

[compuwiz1]

^ I have a strong suspicion which 'mod' you are.

That or which one is your bud, equally racist, and by never calling you out shows tacit approval of your racist bullshit.

Which is it?

Former. lol

 

[agent00f]

Former. lol

It's all very funny these clowns don't ever chase their guys from Bannon and whoever else Trump is openly recruiting on down (not to mention the "white country", "chimps" and muslim-genocide sorts around here), but get real upset when anyone calls any of them on it.

I'm sure there'll be some liberal/moderate cuck along shortly to apologize for your lot, that it's all due to unfortunate economics or something and not inherent sense of racial entitlement that's passed down the generations.